A well known developer & his thoughts on the PS3

[madcap_laughs]

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/1010.html He makes excellent points

 

When people like Brian Hastings speak, we tend to listen. The Chief Creative Officer over at Insomniac Games has been one of the most important figures for Sony over the last few years. And so, he issued a lengthy editorial stating 10 reasons why he believes the PS3 will be the victor of this console generation. It may be lengthy, but it's a smooth and easy read that should take no more than 10 minutes to finish. While I believe that the battle is up in the air between Sony and Microsoft, I still encourage you to read this.

 

 

 

"Mar 27, 2007 : 10 Reasons Why PS3 Will Win This Console Generation

 

 

 

Insomniac Games Chief Creative Officer Brian Hastings discusses why the PS3 is the console to beat

 

 

 

First of all, let me make it clear that Insomniac is a 100% independent development studio. Sony has neither endorsed nor authorized what IÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢m writing here.

 

 

 

When I started this blog post I was planning to write about Home and Little Big Planet from a developerÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s perspective. But as I read some of the media and message board responses to SonyÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s GDC presentation, I wanted to address an ongoing industry phenomenon. Specifically, the sheer volume of negative spin toward Sony from both the mainstream press and the internet community. Mere minutes after Sony announced a beautiful, ground breaking, free, community-enhancing online PS3 service, 100 internet posters were trying to argue that this was somehow a bad thing. Whether you love or hate Sony, if youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re trying to spin Home as a bad thing I can only conclude that youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re part of MicrosoftÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s $3.2 billion viral marketing campaign.

 

 

 

IÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll be the first to say that Sony has had a very rough road from last E3 up through this yearÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s GDC. Some of their wounds have been self-inflicted, but theyÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ve also had to face a conspicuously hostile media. Take the New York Times article ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅHow the PS3 will kill your dog, steal your girlfriend, and infect you with Ebola.ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ

[Horusdragon2]

This is 2 months old, but anyway...

 

 

 

I agree that the PS3 has a lot of potential to come out on top this generation, BUT, many of his points aren't things that will result in the PS3's potential victory.

 

 

 

Home & Little Big Planet I agree, home looks great, so does LBP. But to be honest, not a lot of people will buy a PS3 just for these two games. And to be honest, I am not excited about either of these two games.

 

 

 

Free Online

 

I agree, free online is great, but I have my doubts about it. I honestly don't think that the PS3's free online will never be as good as Xbox Live.

 

 

 

50 GB games

 

This will be one of the reasons the PS3 could potentially come out on top. With 50 Gigs of space, there are so much more possibilities for games. And on top of that, many games will become better on the PS3 than the 360 because of this. Imagine the possibilities for the next Elder Scrolls, or any other giant open world games, or even long RPGS. Definately a plus.

 

 

 

Casino Royale/Studio support for Blu-Ray movies

 

Obviously, Blu-ray has a lot more exclusive titles than HD-DVD, which will lead to the succes of both the PS3 since it doubles as a Blu-Ray player, and the blu-ray format as a whole.

 

 

 

HDMI

 

The 360 has HDMI now, but only if you bought the elite. HDMI is only real important to people obsessesed with A/V

 

 

 

Standard HDD

 

The Xbox 360 Premium and Elite have standard HDD. You have to be an idiot if you buy the core system. Microsoft needs to stop making the Core.

 

 

 

The Wii Fad Will Fade

 

Phil Harrison said the DS was a gimmick, but did the DS fail? No. I truly believe the Wii will keep selling, because it's innovative. The only way people will stop buying the Wii is good games for it don't come out.

 

 

 

PS3 Has a Major CPU Advantage

 

Honestly i don't know much about CPUs, so I'll just say he's correct.

 

 

 

PS2 still outselling 360

 

The PS2 is still outselling the Ps3 too. :\

 

 

 

Something For Everyone

 

I don't think too many young people (8-18) will be able to afford a PS3 as of now because of it's cost. That's one of the major reasons it's sales are lagging.

[madcap_laughs]

I can tell that you didn't read the article, only the first sentence or 2 of each point

[Mercifull]

Don't expect an active thread when you simply copy and paste an article from another site and don't bother bringing up any discussion points yourself.

[Kiriyama]

The PS3 is your generic console.

 

 

 

Nintendo on the other hand are come out with the innovative ideas and quite frankly they work.

 

 

 

Oh and genius, you get free internet with the Wii aswell.

 

 

 

Also if your throwing a Wii PArty every week of course less people will come.

 

 

 

OT.

 

The Mario Football game looks awesome. Soon as I get it I'm getting another Nunchuck.

[Ginger_Warrior]

I didn't even bother to read this article. The reason? It's clear this guy would say nothing bad about SONY, and is clearly living in the clouds. The console war is a run-off between SONY and Microsoft? Which is why the Wii is outselling both... :-s

 

 

 

The second reason is his blatent bias against the Wii. He couldn't help mentioning the old 'age-group' argument here could he? The fact is, I know a damn sight more over 16s wanting a Wii than under 16s. It really has appealed to the older generation, the people that were brought up on the NES/Amiga with its Virtual Console Feature. Additionally, I agree, multiplayer gaming isn't really doable on the Wii right now. However, I have no doubt that when Battle Revolution comes out with NWC, millions of Pok̮̩̉̉mon fans will be battling online, just as they are with Diamond/Pearl now. As the poster before me said, loads of people were scepticle, myself included, of the direction Ninty were taking with the DS. They proved me wrong, it's been a massive success.

 

 

 

As for the PS3 itself, well it's all very dandy him telling us the PS3's great with his six-figure salary. The fact is, the teenage audience the PS has so thrived off won't be able to afford the extortionate pricing of the PS3. At ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã450 a throw, I would certainly hope the PS3's online play is free!!! Especially considering I can pick up a DS and a USB Adaptor for ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã120, and I'm up and running online. Also, the PS3's a good ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã200 more than the others, and for what? Can someone please explain to me what the PS3 has that the XBox doesn't (and don't say Blu-Ray, no-one can use it)?

 

 

 

As I said, I didn't read the whole article, but I doubt I needed to. It was clear this guy was never gonna say a bad word about PS3, and was never even going to mention the success of Nintendo the past two years under Satoru Iwata.

[Nadril]

He made some great comments on the Wii however. As much as I have always loved Nintendo the Wii just seems like something that would die out for me in a bit. A cool controller is great for a few games but dealing with it for a good 5 years worth?

[madcap_laughs]

I didn't even bother to read this article. The reason? It's clear this guy would say nothing bad about SONY, and is clearly living in the clouds. The console war is a run-off between SONY and Microsoft? Which is why the Wii is outselling both... :-s

 

 

 

The second reason is his blatent bias against the Wii. He couldn't help mentioning the old 'age-group' argument here could he? The fact is, I know a damn sight more over 16s wanting a Wii than under 16s. It really has appealed to the older generation, the people that were brought up on the NES/Amiga with its Virtual Console Feature. Additionally, I agree, multiplayer gaming isn't really doable on the Wii right now. However, I have no doubt that when Battle Revolution comes out with NWC, millions of Pok̮̩̉̉mon fans will be battling online, just as they are with Diamond/Pearl now. As the poster before me said, loads of people were scepticle, myself included, of the direction Ninty were taking with the DS. They proved me wrong, it's been a massive success.

 

 

 

As for the PS3 itself, well it's all very dandy him telling us the PS3's great with his six-figure salary. The fact is, the teenage audience the PS has so thrived off won't be able to afford the extortionate pricing of the PS3. At ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã450 a throw, I would certainly hope the PS3's online play is free!!! Especially considering I can pick up a DS and a USB Adaptor for ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã120, and I'm up and running online. Also, the PS3's a good ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã200 more than the others, and for what? Can someone please explain to me what the PS3 has that the XBox doesn't (and don't say Blu-Ray, no-one can use it)?

 

 

 

As I said, I didn't read the whole article, but I doubt I needed to. It was clear this guy was never gonna say a bad word about PS3, and was never even going to mention the success of Nintendo the past two years under Satoru Iwata.

The post answers all your questions, he addresses why the PS3 has the superior goods and what they can be used for.

 

 

 

Your ignorance will get someone hurt one day

[Bubsa]

IMO (So madcap, don't go off the wall and criticise my opinion) is that the PS3 is a lot like Halo 2. A sequel which doesn't surpass it's predecessor enough, has not fulfilled it's potential, but still has enough fan-boy pulling power to take its popularity to the limit.

[madcap_laughs]

IMO (So madcap, don't go off the wall and criticise my opinion) is that the PS3 is a lot like Halo 2. A sequel which doesn't surpass it's predecessor enough, has not fulfilled it's potential, but still has enough fan-boy pulling power to take its popularity to the limit.

What does that make the 360? the only console to even choose from for over a year?

[Ginger_Warrior]

The post answers all your questions, he addresses why the PS3 has the superior goods and what they can be used for.

 

 

 

Your ignorance will get someone hurt one day

 

 

 

You mean all *counts* one of the questions I left open for discussion in my last post? And, no it doesn't. He's just one developer, and believe me there are dozens more chorusing that the PS3 is a nightmare to code and they find it a real turn-off. As far as I'm concerned, I can stick an XBox 360 and a PS3 together, and there's a marginal difference in terms how games look/run on them, yet one costs ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã200 less.

 

 

 

I would agree with Bubsa. The PS3 is, to all intent and purposes, almost a carbon-copy of the PS2 with 256 bytes.

[How2PK]

I think that in the end the PS3 will be the best console. When more people have bought the console (which will happen after a price-drop) more and better exclusives will come. The system is by far the most powerful, and the BlueRay drive is an awesome feature with the eye on the future. Not only for movie watching, but also for games (I pointed this out earlier, but everybody said that the disc size didn't really matter?). You're all writing the PS3 off way too soon. Sorry Bubs, I'm not a fan-boy, I'm just looking at it realistically.

[blade995]

The disk size doesn't matter, or up to a certan point. The xbox360 uses a dl-dvd which is 9.4GBs and the PS3's blueray is 25GBs. The 360 is not limited to the limited disk space, the biggest game to date is like 7GBs (from what I have read). Disk size usually does not go up over time either, developers usually find tricks and ways as time goes on to reduce disk size.

 

 

 

I think the 360 is the Best console out but if the PS3 and the 360 were the same price, the PS3 would be better.

 

 

 

The Blueray is an awesome format, but should have not been included in the PS3, it raised the cost a lot, and it shows no (real world) benefits in games.

 

 

 

Develops don't like it either, because it's hard to code for. They rather have something easier to code, like the 360 or the Wii.

 

 

 

You have to remember, time is money. If a game takes 1.5 years to code for strictly the 360 and the same game takes 2 years to code on a PS3, what will a developer choose?

[madcap_laughs]

The post answers all your questions, he addresses why the PS3 has the superior goods and what they can be used for.

 

 

 

Your ignorance will get someone hurt one day

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would agree with Bubsa. The PS3 is, to all intent and purposes, almost a carbon-copy of the PS2 with 256 bytes.

Jesus Christ. Okay, I normally try to avoid these kinds of posts but what?

 

 

 

what does that make a 360 to a normal xbox? a new paint job?

[Mercifull]

I would agree with Bubsa. The PS3 is, to all intent and purposes, almost a carbon-copy of the PS2 with 256 bytes.

Jesus Christ. Okay, I normally try to avoid these kinds of posts but what?

 

 

 

what does that make a 360 to a normal xbox? a new paint job?

You have totally missed the point. forget about looks for a moment, a 360 to an Xbox is about the same as a calculator is to Deep Thought. The 360 is a completely new system virtually nothing of the original Xbox remains and its much more powerful. the PS3 however really brings nothing new to the table apart from more memory and blu-ray which noone wants to pay for, even the larger HDD is now surpassed by the Xbox Elite and soon to be on all 360's.

[madcap_laughs]

I would agree with Bubsa. The PS3 is, to all intent and purposes, almost a carbon-copy of the PS2 with 256 bytes.

Jesus Christ. Okay, I normally try to avoid these kinds of posts but what?

 

 

 

what does that make a 360 to a normal xbox? a new paint job?

You have totally missed the point. forget about looks for a moment, a 360 to an Xbox is about the same as a calculator is to Deep Thought. The 360 is a completely new system virtually nothing of the original Xbox remains and its much more powerful. the PS3 however really brings nothing new to the table apart from more memory and blu-ray which noone wants to pay for, even the larger HDD is now surpassed by the Xbox Elite and soon to be on all 360's.

EVERYTHING is different from the PS3 to the PS2 when it comes to CPU and GPU, and it is all superior to the 360s

 

 

 

EDIT: A harddrive wont be standard to 360 during this generation. The Elites hdd has no use outside of the xbox marketplace. Thats what the guy was saying, they made a huge mistake by not making it standard to the 360

[Tigra00]

I think the #1 reason the PS3 is semi-tanking is almost entirely because of Sony's attitude. They basically came out and said "Yea, it is expensive, but you'll buy it, won't you? Yes, that's right. Beg for it. It rules." and gamers don't like that BS attitude. The gaming community is one of the few communities that you just CAN'T piss off, because they'll never forgive you, you'll never live it down, and they will ALL hate you.

 

 

 

The thing is $600, which is expensive, but you get free online and stuff...That's pretty cool. Their library also sucks and will suck for quite some time, however. But Sony really topped it off by saying that we'd buy it no matter what it costs. They were wrong.

 

 

 

Don't [bleep] with the gamers. :P

[____]

I think the #1 reason the PS3 is semi-tanking is almost entirely because of Sony's attitude. They basically came out and said "Yea, it is expensive, but you'll buy it, won't you? Yes, that's right. Beg for it. It rules." and gamers don't like that BS attitude. The gaming community is one of the few communities that you just CAN'T piss off, because they'll never forgive you, you'll never live it down, and they will ALL hate you.

 

 

 

/ snip /

 

 

 

Don't [bleep] with the gamers. :P

EA learnt that a little bit when they pissed so many people off with their handling of BF2142 and the last few patches of BF2. So many people got pissed off at EA it wasn't funny.

[atronic92]

IMO (So madcap, don't go off the wall and criticise my opinion) is that the PS3 is a lot like Halo 2. A sequel which doesn't surpass it's predecessor enough, has not fulfilled it's potential, but still has enough fan-boy pulling power to take its popularity to the limit.

 

 

 

I completely agree. But I'm not sure if the ps3 can sell as well as halo 2.

[blade995]

I would agree with Bubsa. The PS3 is, to all intent and purposes, almost a carbon-copy of the PS2 with 256 bytes.

Jesus Christ. Okay, I normally try to avoid these kinds of posts but what?

 

 

 

what does that make a 360 to a normal xbox? a new paint job?

You have totally missed the point. forget about looks for a moment, a 360 to an Xbox is about the same as a calculator is to Deep Thought. The 360 is a completely new system virtually nothing of the original Xbox remains and its much more powerful. the PS3 however really brings nothing new to the table apart from more memory and blu-ray which noone wants to pay for, even the larger HDD is now surpassed by the Xbox Elite and soon to be on all 360's.

EVERYTHING is different from the PS3 to the PS2 when it comes to CPU and GPU, and it is all superior to the 360s

 

 

 

EDIT: A harddrive wont be standard to 360 during this generation. The Elites hdd has no use outside of the xbox marketplace. Thats what the guy was saying, they made a huge mistake by not making it standard to the 360

 

Why are the CPU and GPU superior to the 360's? Because Sony said they are?

 

 

 

The propaganda Sony puts out still amazes me. They come out with a whole new cpu architecture and everybody thinks it has to be better because it's newer. I got news for people, newer isn't always better.

 

 

 

Even if the PS3 has more graphics horsepower that doesn't mean developers will utilize it. If you look at comparison videos of the same game on the PS3 and 360 you can not tell the difference between them.

[Tigra00]

Actually, you can tell the difference.

 

 

 

When the PS3 was shipped, IGN did a little check. There were some differences, and they concluded that the 360 rendered games BETTER than the PS3.

 

 

 

Just sayin'.

[rocketman089]

I haven't seen blue107 'round here in a while..

[Tigra00]

I haven't seen blue107 'round here in a while..

 

 

 

I could tell you why that would be, but I'd probably get banned.

 

 

 

...Again.

[madcap_laughs]

Actually, you can tell the difference.

 

 

 

When the PS3 was shipped, IGN did a little check. There were some differences, and they concluded that the 360 rendered games BETTER than the PS3.

 

 

 

Just sayin'.

Yes, some games :P

[Kiriyama]

Anyway I don't care what the guy said.

 

 

 

Isonamic has always been mostly sony games. Guess what? They'll stick with them and not say anything bad as they may lose out on money. So I'm putting this down to fanboyism.

 

 

 

Oh and Sony are getting sued over some blu-ray stuff.