Kashi Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I think even if a man did get this operation he'd still be only half a woman ... EDIT: Okay, but I just want to point out to the people who call this unnatural, or the one guy who said the desire to do this was the product of a deranged mind. The only part of your life this -really- affects is sex! It's just sex! It's not the biggest thing in your life! If it is, then you need a new hobby, because you'll be sorely disappointed when you turn 75 years old and can't even \ anymore. It's -JUST- sex! Reproduction, procreation, whatever. From an evolutionary standpoint, sex after an operation like this would serve no purpose because you aren't creating new gene combinations (although granted that's not why most people do it). But if you want to anyway, go right ahead. It's nobody's business but your own. =; EDIT: And one more thing. Any man who finds this concept repulsive is probably VERY INSECURE IN HIS MASCULINITY! Sheesh. :? My greatest ambition is to kill every member of the human race.However I am a realist and therefore know that I probably wont be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Their sexual organs work just fine, as in, they would get the same feeling from sex as someone who was naturally that gender would. The only difference is they do not have the ability to reproduce. Also people who change from male to female or vise versa do more than just surgery. Like I said earlier they take hormones which makes then look more feminine/manly and even alters their mood to that of more like a male/female. Arguably the only difference once the entire process is complete (which can take years, I think, for the hormones to have their entire effect last) is that they can't reproduce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashi Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Somebody else needs to post on this thread! I asked a bunch of questions that I'm too afraid to look up myself. :oops: My greatest ambition is to kill every member of the human race.However I am a realist and therefore know that I probably wont be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_ross0 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I agree with the guy on page 1..if there is a problem at birth where your..not sure how to make this appropriate..'male or female parts' are severely messed up, then I can completely understand and agree with getting a sex change. But ONLY in that case. Any other reason I know of should be illegal to be done in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashi Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 That doesn't answer any of my questions! :( Seriously, this is in interesting subject, look at my last few posts and see if you can answer them please. My greatest ambition is to kill every member of the human race.However I am a realist and therefore know that I probably wont be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I agree with the guy on page 1..if there is a problem at birth where your..not sure how to make this appropriate..'male or female parts' are severely messed up, then I can completely understand and agree with getting a sex change. But ONLY in that case. Any other reason I know of should be illegal to be done in the first place. Why in the world should it be illegal? Do you want people feeling confused and helpless their entire lives? Feeling like someone they aren't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralvn Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 defies the laws of nature... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 defies the laws of nature... So does any sort of medicine or medical treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_ross0 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 defies the laws of nature... So does any sort of medicine or medical treatment. I think it should be illegal because for one, it's disgusting. 2, it defies the gender you were meant to be..except in special cases which I already stated. And lastly, there's no way of knowing if they were originally a different gender unless they go out and tell you or you get ahold of their medical records or birth certificate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 There is really no good justification for being against sex change. It's like finding a justification for why homosexuals are bad; all your going to get is some religious or 'it's just wrong' statement. [if your going to say homosexuality is 'against the laws of nature, many animals in nature practice it.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 defies the laws of nature... So does any sort of medicine or medical treatment. I think it should be illegal because for one, it's disgusting. 2, it defies the gender you were meant to be..except in special cases which I already stated. And lastly, there's no way of knowing if they were originally a different gender unless they go out and tell you or you get ahold of their medical records or birth certificate.. I find fat people disgusting, being fat should be illegal. Do you realize how ignorant you sound? You need a better excuse then OMIGOD ITS GROSS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_ross0 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 defies the laws of nature... So does any sort of medicine or medical treatment. I think it should be illegal because for one, it's disgusting. 2, it defies the gender you were meant to be..except in special cases which I already stated. And lastly, there's no way of knowing if they were originally a different gender unless they go out and tell you or you get ahold of their medical records or birth certificate.. I find fat people disgusting, being fat should be illegal. Do you realize how ignorant you sound? You need a better excuse then OMIGOD ITS GROSS. Seeing as how you didn't reply to the other 2, I take it that they are perfectly acceptable reasons why it isn't ok :) Hey, you said it by not replying :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Seeing as how you didn't reply to the other 2, I take it that they are perfectly acceptable reasons why it isn't ok :) Hey, you said it by not replying :wink: I'm preety sure someone already rebutted them. Read thru the posts and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_ross0 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Meh. I'll just take your word for it. I don't feel like going through all those posts. -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pkmastachaos Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Personally I don't really care for it, and find it unmoral and rather stupid. What sort of beneficial aspects could come out of it? Maybe some temporary happiness, a sexual pleasure? Maybe you just wanted to be the other sex in the first place? Very strange. We we're meant to be the gender we were born to be. It should be banned for surgeons to do operations like this. But hell, I guess people can do what they want with their money, and if it makes them happy, who's to tell them otherwise. People are dying of famine and disease, and here's people spending who knows how much on unnecessary operations like a sex change.. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_ross0 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Personally I don't really care for it, and find it unmoral and rather stupid. What sort of beneficial aspects could come out of it? Maybe some temporary happiness, a sexual pleasure? Maybe you just wanted to be the other sex in the first place? Very strange. We we're meant to be the gender we were born to be. It should be banned for surgeons to do operations like this. But hell, I guess people can do what they want with their money, and if it makes them happy, who's to tell them otherwise. People are dying of famine and disease, and here's people spending who knows how much on unnecessary operations like a sex change.. :roll: You said it better than I could =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Personally I don't really care for it, and find it unmoral and rather stupid. What sort of beneficial aspects could come out of it? Maybe some temporary happiness, a sexual pleasure? Maybe you just wanted to be the other sex in the first place? Very strange. We we're meant to be the gender we were born to be. It should be banned for surgeons to do operations like this. But hell, I guess people can do what they want with their money, and if it makes them happy, who's to tell them otherwise. People are dying of famine and disease, and here's people spending who knows how much on unnecessary operations like a sex change.. :roll: Jesus christ, read through the thread! Someone does not get a sex change just for temporary hapiness. Those who get a sex change feel confused in their own body. They feel like the other gender and it leads to a lot of depression. Again it is just not some random person thinking "hey, I want to be a female! it'd be cool!" NO its someone who has more likely than not been confused their entire life. Seeing as how you didn't reply to the other 2, I take it that they are perfectly acceptable reasons why it isn't ok Smile Hey, you said it by not replying I already talked about them earlier. Just because a few scums lie about it doesn't mean everyone does, and quite frankly it isn't bounds for this discussion. Having sex with someone who had a sex change is not going to kill you, it won't give you aids, it won't give you any sort of sickness. So I repeat my self what other reasons other than your own personal objections do you have against sex changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_ross0 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 There's no point to it. If the person feels 'confused in their own body/gender', then they should get some psycological help from a counselor or someone with some experience. And besides..read the title, this is about an OPINION..not a factual response to it's legal status. Are you saying I need a legitimate reason to personally oppose it? PS: Why are you so defensive? Did you have a sex change or something :? PSS: and it leads to a lot of depression. I had a lot of depression at one time, yet I got some help and now I'm perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 There's no point to it. If the person feels 'confused in their own body/gender', then they should get some psycological help from a counselor or someone with some experience. And besides..read the title, this is about an OPINION..not a factual response to it's legal status. Are you saying I need a legitimate reason to personally oppose it? PS: Why are you so defensive? Did you have a sex change or something :? No, I have not and do not plan to have a sex change. I enjoy my member very much. I do, however, hate people who object to stuff such as this. Let me see if I can't dig up that thread on something awful for you all to read. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showth ... id=2433474 Here we go, thats the link to it. Its a huge thread but a good read and can give you an opinion (multiple opinons in fact) on those who have had a sex change. (transsexuals). It isn't as easy as "just get help" either. I'm sure its easy as someone who has not had to deal with it but its like homosexuality. Out of curriousity, do you support or oppose homosexuality? This debate if you will is a lot like that. And as you should hopefully know by now you can't just "Cure they gay" and you can't just cure this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destro3979 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 i say they should do whatever they want i have a friend who is a guy that wants to be a girl.... even when we were just little kids he said he wanted to be a girl.. he has some emotional problems cause he wants to be a girl but his parents totally disagree with sex change i feel bad for him... he almost went suicidal one day but me and a few friends stopped him New Sig Coming soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_ross0 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I oppose homosexuality. And no, they aren't the same. This issue is merely a depression..sexual orientation is something very different that I can't explain, but the depression of your gender is something that can be cured. It is depression..there are ways of curing some of the more severe types of depression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I oppose homosexuality. And no, they aren't the same. This issue is merely a depression..sexual orientation is something very different that I can't explain, but the depression of your gender is something that can be cured. It is depression..there are ways of curing some of the more severe types of depression. How could I have guessed... I assume you're just going to keep pulling the "no its not like that" card without anything to back it up. now I know anecdotal evidence isn't always the best kind but read that thread I posted. It isn't simple! And lets look at it this way. How is it hurting you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_ross0 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Let's turn that question around, how does it affect you if either homosexuality OR transexuality is illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Let's turn that question around, how does it affect you if either homosexuality OR transexuality is illegal? How in the WORLD does that make the slightest bit of sense! Of course it isn't going to effect me! The point is, however, is that it WILL effect those who are transsexual. You asking if it affects me is just your own crafty way to try and get out of the question. You are the one opposing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destro3979 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Let's turn that question around, how does it affect you if either homosexuality OR transexuality is illegal? this question isn't directed at me but i want to answer anyways.... it dosent affect me as a person but it affects people i know and people i don't even know just don't do thing for yourself... help others out :) New Sig Coming soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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