Ash6110 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 i only read the first page, so I don;t know if this has been brought up yet, but I think he was a good guy for the reason many think he was awful: the genocide. I have nothing against Jews, in fact one of my friends is Jewish, but think about it; had all those people survived and reproduced, the world would be flooded with even more people than now,a nd our resources would be even more down the crapper. Sure, they could have died in a more humane way, but they still helped protect resources. Okay this is getting a bit out of hand! http://www.draynor.net/code/bar/Noobin\Please join my very new up and coming forumshttp://s3.freepowerboards.com/runeboards Feel free to AIM or MSNM me anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya_Stark Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Hitler = Good at getting his way. His way = Evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 i only read the first page, so I don;t know if this has been brought up yet, but I think he was a good guy for the reason many think he was awful: the genocide. I have nothing against Jews, in fact one of my friends is Jewish, but think about it; had all those people survived and reproduced, the world would be flooded with even more people than now,a nd our resources would be even more down the crapper. Sure, they could have died in a more humane way, but they still helped protect resources. That's... stupid. If they did survive to reproduce, then chances are it wouldn't impact the population much, if at all. Animals have a tendency to not reproduce beyond what their resources can accommodate. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_ownage Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 well in a society where your set of values determines whats right... hitler was the best person ever.... Could use a sig or avatar, PM me if intersted in making one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchstyle Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Bad! He ruined the lives of millions of people. The war took 20 million people their lives. Maybe even more! #4500 to 91 rc - 03-03-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sour_tacos Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Bad person, but he brought many innovations to the modern world. But the bad outweighs the good, by alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willysp Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I feel he was a guy with a good idea that was taken too far. I mean, a country full of people who he thought were the superior people? that countries gonna be a powerful nation, but to kill everyone else was ridiculous. My WoW character, gnome warlock Saldomar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrir321 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 This is somewhat simple but I like it: A leader serves the people he/she is leading. Hitler was doing things for his own gain so he was not a good ruler in my opinion. Bringing up the fact that he killed over 6 million innocent people doesn't make him a bad ruler. Alexander the Great took over all of the modern Europe, North Africa, and the Persian Empire (modern Iraq, Iran, etc.). He obviously killed many people yet people still call him a great ruler. :-k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon_7 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Yea, you guys are right. It's ok to be responsible for the deaths of about 60 million people. As long as you improve your countries economic status in the process! :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 i only read the first page, so I don;t know if this has been brought up yet, but I think he was a good guy for the reason many think he was awful: the genocide. I have nothing against Jews, in fact one of my friends is Jewish, but think about it; had all those people survived and reproduced, the world would be flooded with even more people than now,a nd our resources would be even more down the crapper. Sure, they could have died in a more humane way, but they still helped protect resources. 6 millions is nothing, we'd need to reduce the amount at least 10 times more than that. Also it happened at the wrong place: Africa is the real problem and it's followed by Asia and South America. Oh well maybe that was the excuse for genocides and massdeaths caused by the commies... Indeed, nearly 100 Million at the expense of communism last century? Lets see how they fair this century. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichimaru Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Bad of course. Some people find it "alright" that he killed lots of people. Okay, what about the women the soliders raped, what about all those people in concentration camps? There's a huge difference in just killing someone, and making them suffer for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Trumpet Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I once read an amusing greeting card online that described three possible candidates and asked who to elect as a leader. The "best" candidate appeared to be the most morally ethical of the bunch and had no obvious negative issues. Guess who? Yup, Hiter.....and that was in competition with some of the greatest world leaders. Hitler was extremely charismatic, and maybe he did have good intentions for his country. But he became disillusioned and then went on to disillusion others into believing he had their best interests at heart. Did he at that point? Hell no. He fell into the pitfall of many leaders by developing an overwelming thirst for power. Paranoia and the fear of losing power causes reasonable people to act in unreasonable ways. He may not have been a "bad" man, but he did absolutely awful things and even today people are still disillusioned because of him. :? Gone Fishin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimHams Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 People base their opinion on whether Hitler was "bad" on their opinion on jews/homosexuals/gypsies/eastern europeans. The entire nazi dictatorship of Germany was not just Hitlers doing, in my opinion Goebbels was just as much a leader as Hitler, i see Hitler as a puppet leader and even though he probably agreed with everyone that pumped out of the nazi party he is by no means the only bad guy. Hitler managed to get Germany out of the economic depression in the 30's and by using a lot of short term planning managed to benefit Germany in that way, of course he geared the economy to war quite early which meant a lot of industry changed to munitions but from that aspect he was a great leader. Hitler managed to instill patriotism in Germans which they felt they needed, the Nazi's were a much better leadership than the Weimar government and were seen as a "lesser of two evils" against the communist parties. Hitler never tried to disguise the fact that he hated the jews even in his election speeches so its not as if he faked his way into power, if England or any other country had been in germany's predicament i believe the Nazi's would have been elected into power. Hitler was a good leader of Germany in many aspects but this is insignificant in comparison to the evil that him, along with goebbels, himmler etc brought to the world and if the Nazi's had not been defeated i think we would be living in a much different world today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperClipsYaaaar Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 "Using your own knowledge ,do you think Hitler was a good or bad ruler of Germany" I said yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltb2006 Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 His benefits for his country he made doesn't outweigh the holocaust and the fact he killed millions of people so i would say definetly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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