NoMoreDead Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Ty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulli23 Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 well no, why? 1 reason: powertraining! slayer is currently the only skill which is "impossible" to powertrain by doing 1 thing over and over and over again.. with slayer dart you will get people who will do the dart continuasly at something like the hob goblins just to train slayer.. And slayer will become another buyable skill First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Sure lets all go Slayer Dart at DKs, we'll train slayer and get richer. Win Win. Not going to happen, makes slayer too easy while you are guarenteed to make alot of money. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 IMO, the solution to this is to have all Slayer Monsters give reduced amounts of exp outside of Slayer tasks. That way, maybe people would start gaining personal experience in combat, instead of levelling up to Level 100 at PC, watching YouTube videos and whining on here when they get killed by Jad through purely a lack of personal experience. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 even the april fools' joke called slayer 'killing monsters on assignment', if you're not on assignment it isn't slayer, just combat. with the reduced experience idea, it would make more combat involved, but with more freedom to what you kill. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMoreDead Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share Posted July 8, 2007 well no, why? 1 reason: powertraining! slayer is currently the only skill which is "impossible" to powertrain by doing 1 thing over and over and over again.. with slayer dart you will get people who will do the dart continuasly at something like the hob goblins just to train slayer.. And slayer will become another buyable skill This is true, but remember, death runes arent easy to come by as a mid level player. Those who wish to powertrain will prob. be those with lots of cash to spend...It would make slayer a hefty amount of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto_the_Phoenix Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 No. If you're not on task, why should you get experience for casting a spell? (It's also not very hard to make Natures/Laws and trade for Deaths, either.) Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentBlond Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 no. no, no, no. think about it. Some rich guy gets 55 slayer, and starts training with only magic dart. This would obviously give the rich YET ANOTHER advantage over the not-so-rich. At 55 slayer, they'd never have to do another slayer task again. A good idea, though, is that you could get extra slayer exp for using magic dart on a slayer task. JamesBlond09: banned, 7-14-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchainmail Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 It should be that the slayer dart spell gives additional exp when used on a slayer task. That way, it encourages people to mage their assignments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMoreDead Posted July 9, 2007 Author Share Posted July 9, 2007 no. no, no, no. think about it. Some rich guy gets 55 slayer, and starts training with only magic dart. This would obviously give the rich YET ANOTHER advantage over the not-so-rich. At 55 slayer, they'd never have to do another slayer task again. A good idea, though, is that you could get extra slayer exp for using magic dart on a slayer task. definatly in favor of the last part : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatebringer Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 hmmm, i thought this was debate club, but all i see are one sentence answers. :-s Anyways, on to the purposal at hand, slayer dart - give slayer xp or not. Well, since slayer is probably one of the most difficult skills to train, i can see where you stand. I remember when i got 55, and then i though, man, that was tough. Well, it should be. Many people use slayer dart not just for slayer, but for barrows, DK trips, metal dragon hunting, and many other various tasks. This would give them many thousands of slayer experience, and not even have to go to a slayer master at all, completely defeating the purpose of slayer. So, here is a quick example. Player A gets 55 slayer, but wants 85-90 for some obvious reasons. Player A reads that slayer dart gives slayer xp, and wants to train slayer with this. he buys up enough runes for 500 casts of slayer dart, and heads to barrows. using the chest runs, Player A is able to recycle the runes in the chest, and continue gaining slayer xp, while getting rich off barrows drops. Even at 1 xp per damage, this would be bad. it would be just like hp leveling, and people don't hit only ones with slayer dart. they hit up to 19s with it, so that is possible 19 exp per cast, which 500 casts could possibly be almost 10k slayer xp. The Main reason this can't happen is because slayer is about going to slayer masters to train it with tasks. If slayer dart gave slayer xp, it would just be another secondary skill, and would level as you are doing random things, like the things i mentioned above. 99 Fletching 99 Attack 99 Constitution 99 Cooking 99 StrengthGamertag: H8tebringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakdragon39 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I also don't like this idea. It would completely defeat the purpose of Slayer training. However I do like the idea of getting extra slayer exp if you use it on a slayer task :) That makes a little more sense, and it would be me some initiative to actually use magic. Right now, I never use magic unless I have a few things to high-alch here and there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMoreDead Posted July 10, 2007 Author Share Posted July 10, 2007 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berrakus Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 hmmm, i thought this was debate club, but all i see are one sentence answers. :-s What is the point in debating a poorly chosen topic? Dragon Drops - 10 Meds, 9 Legs, 5 Skirts, 2 Left HalfPM me to have any potions made or crafting done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatebringer Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 hmmm, i thought this was debate club, but all i see are one sentence answers. :-s What is the point in debating a poorly chosen topic? even if the topic is bad, you should at least put some reasoning behind your answers, or then its not considered a debate, just a rant 99 Fletching 99 Attack 99 Constitution 99 Cooking 99 StrengthGamertag: H8tebringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nope, in all fairness, an incredibly bad idea. Once somebody hits 55 slayer, they can then just power train slayer and magic in a 'high-alch' esque fashion, but 2 skills instead of one. Infact it would be worse, because of auto cast. Set your charecter up on say a black dragon and afk your way to 99 slayer and magic :shame: I would be good however, if using slayer weapons, Broad arrows, leaf bladed spear etc on slayer assingments were they are required would give additional slayer exp. Finally people would be killing turoths and other slayer monsters like them. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4tty Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 are you an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberthree Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 are you an idiot? Yes you are. That is the single most useless post I've ever seen in the Debate Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4tty Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 are you an idiot? Yes you are. That is the single most useless post I've ever seen in the Debate Club. wow stop stalking me and go die in a fire or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemathonical Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 are you an idiot? Yes you are. That is the single most useless post I've ever seen in the Debate Club. wow stop stalking me and go die in a fire or something. -.- He is not stalking you just because he quoted one of your posts. If you can't handle being quoted, leave the forums. ^Sir Jem 05-The Bunny Drinking Blog?^ Click it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellsBells Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 NO. Slayer is one of the few skills that hasn't been made easier because of complaining noobs. The Slayer Cape would no longer be a real achievment. Just like 126 combat after Pest Control. My F2P Moneymaking Guide!Always gargle before a takeoff. Wakka Wakka! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 are you an idiot? Yes you are. That is the single most useless post I've ever seen in the Debate Club. wow stop stalking me and go die in a fire or something. I hope that an admin bans you for that comment. Besides, all I've ever seen you contribute is garbage.. Go back to trying to steal peoples' items at the DKs, you pathetic fool. You aren't welcome here. On topic: I like the idea of getting additional slayer exp for using the Leaf Blade/Broad Arrows/Slayer Dart, WHEN ON A SLAYER ASSIGNMENT. You should get 1 exp per damage with those, so that if you had a dust devil assignment and killed them with only broad arrows, you'd receive 210 slayer exp per kill instead of 105. Oh, and they would need to increase the shop price of the spears and arrows, and slightly increase the spell cost to help balance it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieeMania12 Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Yep, and lets make fletching give you range xp -.- We should euthanize anyone who lacks the capability to contribute to society in any way.Please don't elect this man for president in 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren211 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 I disagree. The spell should only give slayer exp if your doing a slayer task. if your just killing monsters... why get slayer? [hide=]tip it would pay me $500.00 to keep my clothes ON :( :lol:But then again, you fail to realize that 101% of the people in this universe hate you. Yes, humankind's hatred against you goes beyond mathematical possibilities.That tears it. I'm starting an animal rebellion using my mind powers. Those PETA bastards will never see it coming until the porcupines are half way up their asses.[/hide]Apparently a lot of people say it. I own. http://linkagg.com/ Not my site, but a simple, budding site that links often unheard-of websites that are amazing for usefulness and fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuriousmonkey Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Slayer should remain a difficult skill to level. If someone wants an "easy" 99 they can go hunting or fletching. That said we should not turn a blind eye to improving slayer. Slayer could be made even more attractive by making special slayer drops that could only be used by people with a certain level of slayer, similar to needing to have slayer 55 to do magic dart. We have the abyssal whip. A wonderful weapon. Although it only drops from lvl 85 slayer monsters, the abyssal demons, a person with slayer lvl 1 can use it. Why not make a high level slayer monster that drops a wonderful piece of equipment that can only be used at a high slayer level. Let's say it drops at 90 and you need slayer 75 to use it. Or you can buy the piece of equipment from any slayer master, like the slayer staff, but can only use it at a certain slayer level. And maybe a quest to unlock it? This will stimulate training slayer. It will also give advantage to people who invest time to train this difficult skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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