The New World Order

[Hi9im8Here7]

I never said that I didn't consider the possibility. I said that I highly doubted it. There's a difference.

 

 

 

The evidence you provided was convincing, but not enough to get me to believe that the U.S. Government deliberately killed thousands of people.

 

 

 

Sorry if I misunderstood you. Getting you to think about stuff like this is this thread's goal anyway.

[venomai]

I honestly read most of that. Occasionally skipping over part. I lost a lot of respect when you encouraged people to "go to wikipedia and learn about it".

 

 

 

I'm not saying that most wikipedia articles are un-accurate. But they are. It has become an unreliable source of information.

 

It's actually an extremely accurate source of information. Recent research shows that Wikipedia is comparable to Encyclopedia Britannica.

 

http://science.slashdot.org/science/05/ ... =95&tid=14

 

 

 

To be safe, you should always check the citations.

[Ichimaru]

Why you are all arguing about this being true or not? Read this, register it somewhere in your dusty head, then if someday the government truly wants to do a NAU, and a NWO, then it will be the time to bring out the pearl out of your head, and SAY NO!

 

 

 

None of you have access to this information, no one knows what is going on for sure, you just repeat other people's darned opinions and facts, be it the governments, skeptics, conspiracy scholars, then you mix up some ad hominem statements, but in fact you are just a dumb joe sitting in front of your computer with no idea what is going on or not. Actually, just having an opinion on this is stupid. Just sit with a watchful eye and watch the events unfold, and if needed, act to protect your rights. They are you're rights, everyone should protect them regardless of their beliefs! Why the hell didn't you protect your rights when Bush decided he could do whatever he wanted to YOU based on the assumption you could be a terrorist?! Have you forgotten what United States was based on? Have you forgotten what your ancestors have fought and died for?!

 

 

 

Sometimes I wonder if the human race is even worth trying to save. Are a species that ignorant, selfish, self-centered, egocentric, arrogant, agressive race even worth living? Heh, serious doubts on that. As usual, humans have failed to learn from history, and will repeat past mistakes over and over. The human race might aswell be annihalated right now, our planet would be much better without us, and we would stop all this pointlessness.

 

 

 

EDIT: I didn't have enough. IGNORE if you TRULY aren't in the 80%, OBVIOUSLY, Why do people have to repeat that over and over, isn't OBVIOUS? If you are in the 80% I despise, then this is for you, don't take offence, it is the raw truth. I'm not here to ego-debate with you, I have to specify that because your first idiotic instinct is to do so, well give it up, I DON'T care anymore, go PLAY OUTSIDE INSTEAD.

 

 

 

I am sick of you egocentric, [wagon]es, you form 80% of the population of this planet. Oh I know, you will reply saying I'm the stupid one blah blah blah, that's the kind of stupid thing that you do that makes you [wagon]es in the first place. Have a nice day, and kill yourself while you are at it, you know you are an egocentric, ignorant person, and yet you arrogantly still want to exist and obviously you think you are so much superior to everyone else. Truth? Child games, you are a stupid and selfish as our leaders. Money money money, the sweet illusion of the idiotic. Sick of it, rotten scumbags, most of you don't deserve even living, and the actual intelligent people are stuck with you! You even get in stupid little arguments, ego arguments with the intelligent, and of course since you are more skilled in the stupid ego debates, you "own" the intelligent. Feel good doesn't it? Well I'm SICK of it, there's no way to get an intelligent conversation going with you CHILDREN, you turn it into THIS, UNEDUCATED statements; ad hominems attacks, "Omg that's so not true". Can it get any dumber? And yes, I'm PISSED you noticed? Pissed to deal with the bunch of idiots you are! Pissed! I'm saying you something VERY simple. DEFEND YOUR RIGHTS. And yet you will still find a way to complain about that, or to find an EXCUSE to do NOTHING! Just admit it, you are LAZY, and you would rather be enslave that to have to do anything to help yourself, and your country! You should be ashamed!

[goldphishies]

Why you are all arguing about this being true or not? Read this, register it somewhere in your dusty head, then if someday the government truly wants to do a NAU, and a NWO, then it will be the time to bring out the pearl out of your head, and SAY NO!

 

 

 

None of you have access to this information, no one knows what is going on for sure, you just repeat other people's darned opinions and facts, be it the governments, skeptics, conspiracy scholars, then you mix up some ad hominem statements, but in fact you are just a dumb joe sitting in front of your computer with no idea what is going on or not. Actually, just having an opinion on this is stupid. Just sit with a watchful eye and watch the events unfold, and if needed, act to protect your rights. They are you're rights, everyone should protect them regardless of their beliefs! Why the hell didn't you protect your rights when Bush decided he could do whatever he wanted to YOU based on the assumption you could be a terrorist?! Have you forgotten what United States was based on? Have you forgotten what your ancestors have fought and died for?!

 

 

 

Sometimes I wonder if the human race is even worth trying to save. Are a species that ignorant, selfish, self-centered, egocentric, arrogant, agressive race even worth living? Heh, serious doubts on that. As usual, humans have failed to learn from history, and will repeat past mistakes over and over. The human race might aswell be annihalated right now, our planet would be much better without us, and we would stop all this pointlessness.

 

 

 

Thanks for saving me the time it would of taken to type all of that : .

[The Real ET]

I read a good part of it and skipped down to see any kind of links intending to keep reading. Then I see a Loose Change link and stopped... I agree that the government is more about itself then it's people, but this is outright conspiracy. :shame:

 

 

 

This nifty little article sums out how I feel about Loose Change. It's about as well documented as Loose Change, so read it and see for yourself. :

[The Dark Lord]

Yes, and there are seven leaders of the Illuminati. They represent the 7 heads of the Dragon/Satan.

 

 

 

George W. Bush represents the False Prophet.

 

 

 

It's so obvious.

 

 

 

Here is an artist's sketch of the Rapture:

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you didn't know, the world governments are being controlled by the Illuminati. The Illuminati is trying to end Humanity because it is obviously at the peak of its evolutionary process.

 

 

 

The Freemasons' greatest secret is how to initiate the Rapture, which would end Humanity. The Freemasons are rumored to be working alongside the Illuminati and it's a matter of time before they successfully end Humanity.

 

 

 

There is no War on Terror; George W. Bush is using it to distract the American people and the rest of the world while he works with the Illuminati.

 

 

 

The Bible says that in the End there will be many earthquakes, right? Well what do we have here? EARTHQUAKES!

 

 

 

Like I said, it's only a matter of time before Humanity is screwed. There is already a New World Order. We are being controlled by the Illuminati, our true masters.

 

 

 

That's all I have to say. I'm serious as well. Very serious. Very very very very very very very veeeerrryyyy serious.

 

 

 

You guys are just too narrow-minded if you can't see this.

 

 

 

EDIT: I think I've been reading too much Weekly World News, isn't that strange? I think the author has read too many issues as well.

[goldphishies]

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Yes, and there are seven leaders of the Illuminati. They represent the 7 heads of the Dragon/Satan.

 

 

 

George W. Bush represents the False Prophet.

 

 

 

It's so obvious.

 

 

 

Here is an artist's sketch of the Rapture:

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you didn't know, the world governments are being controlled by the Illuminati. The Illuminati is trying to end Humanity because it is obviously at the peak of its evolutionary process.

 

 

 

The Freemasons' greatest secret is how to initiate the Rapture, which would end Humanity. The Freemasons are rumored to be working alongside the Illuminati and it's a matter of time before they successfully end Humanity.

 

 

 

There is no War on Terror; George W. Bush is using it to distract the American people and the rest of the world while he works with the Illuminati.

 

 

 

The Bible says that in the End there will be many earthquakes, right? Well what do we have here? EARTHQUAKES!

 

 

 

Like I said, it's only a matter of time before Humanity is screwed. There is already a New World Order. We are being controlled by the Illuminati, our true masters.

 

 

 

That's all I have to say. I'm serious as well. Very serious. Very very very very very very very veeeerrryyyy serious.

 

 

 

You guys are just too narrow-minded if you can't see this.

 

 

 

EDIT: I think I've been reading too much Weekly World News, isn't that strange? I think the author has read too many issues as well.

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I couldn't tell if you were being serious or not... clarify? I'm sort of half between laughing and half between looking at you strangly.

[hohto]

Even if it's highly unprobable, we should at least keep our eyes peeled. Governments like America are capitable of turning into an Imperial Order such as the Roman. I'm not saying it will, but it could happen and we should keep our eyes peeled.

 

 

 

Unlike Romans, USA has now things that can stop it, Russia and China to be named.Basically Rome could spread as it was able to beat its enemies, currently if USA got into a war with Russia or China in a situation where the stakes are high, mankind is doomed.

[Kill_Thomas9]

Down with the government!!

 

 

 

I started reading this exactly 2 hours 20 minutes ago. Just finished the first vid.

[Giordano]

Even if it's highly unprobable, we should at least keep our eyes peeled. Governments like America are capitable of turning into an Imperial Order such as the Roman. I'm not saying it will, but it could happen and we should keep our eyes peeled.

 

 

 

Unlike Romans, USA has now things that can stop it, Russia and China to be named.Basically Rome could spread as it was able to beat its enemies, currently if USA got into a war with Russia or China in a situation where the stakes are high, mankind is doomed.

 

They both have things to stop it, but it still changed into an Empire. Rules are useless if people don't follow them, and why can't US just simply not follow 'em?

[InkofDeath]

There is too much evidence from so many different parties, that represent many different things, which confuses the reader, and confuses more when they're asked to find out sources for themselves, when they can not say 100% what facts, what statements, and whatever else are false, or true.

 

 

 

The Government of America from my view is corrupt, yet evidence, new evidence, old evidence, evidence from other countries, or most suited, variables change my mind all the time.

 

 

 

I do believe however, as I think everyone else can agree 9/11 was a side-effect of another issues in the world we humans physically did not see, but on some other level(no not physic crap, I mean like markets, or prices of oil, or even nature). Perhaps the main reason 9/11 happened has yet to be done. OR 9/11 is a side-effect from the something from the past.

 

 

 

I highly doubt it was terrorism, yet I highly doubt the Government intended to kill thousands. I think the Government struck a deal with some organization, and it went wrong.

 

 

 

Though of course this is a theory and I should be discredited. Also I'm pretty sure I'm not the first to theorize this.

 

 

 

9/11 is an odd event, that will forever remain as an uncertain event which no side can prove or dis-prove due to the already contaminated evidence, and statements. Even if actual evidence was brought, there would be those who discredit it, and find some loop hole in it. WE will never know for sure, without a doubt about 9/11, so we will continue to live with these theories.

[johntm]

It's true, and it had to be said, good job Hi9im.

 

 

 

The people on tip.it are very narrow-minded. If you can just awaken one person to the truth, it would be a success. In all cases, if they don't awaken to reality, I have the feeling they will die. It's my gut feeling, I won't question it.

 

 

 

Shaddup vegetarian.

 

 

 

 

 

On topic: Seriously buddy enough tabloids for you. The guvment didnt kill 300 americans or bomb a british subway or whatever. Our guvment may suck, but be proud. Some governments would kill you. Anyway, japanese people got locked up for some reason i dont know about. They bomb pearl harbor maybe? Well they can cook who cares.

 

 

 

No i have no clue what im talking about. Politics suck.

[warri0r45]

What if we turned this on it's head entirely.

 

 

 

What if there were a class of tyrannical, power-crazed elite that proffer conspiracy theories to try and create a flase 'us vs. them' mentality so the credulous and docile will be scared into being anti-establishment. Under this guise, what if they then plan on garnering this support so that they can implement a new world order?

 

 

 

Does this sound any more unbelievable than the idea that governments, being ruled by a power-crazed elite, are creating terrorist ideologies and attacking themselves to instill fear into the masses via a false 'us vs. them' mentality and using this sharade to establish a new world order?

 

 

 

I don't know. I don't really care that much either.

[Rebdragon]

Yes, and there are seven leaders of the Illuminati. They represent the 7 heads of the Dragon/Satan.

 

 

 

George W. Bush represents the False Prophet.

 

 

 

It's so obvious.

 

 

 

Here is an artist's sketch of the Rapture:

 

 

 

 

You know that image is directly from the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion, right :P ?

[KCHughes]

What if we turned this on it's head entirely.

 

 

 

What if there were a class of tyrannical, power-crazed elite that proffer conspiracy theories to try and create a flase 'us vs. them' mentality so the credulous and docile will be scared into being anti-establishment. Under this guise, what if they then plan on garnering this support so that they can implement a new world order?

 

 

 

Does this sound any more unbelievable than the idea that governments, being ruled by a power-crazed elite, are creating terrorist ideologies and attacking themselves to instill fear into the masses via a false 'us vs. them' mentality and using this sharade to establish a new world order?

 

 

 

I don't know. I don't really care that much either.

 

 

 

No, people are too stupid to do this. :wink:

[The Dark Lord]

Yes, and there are seven leaders of the Illuminati. They represent the 7 heads of the Dragon/Satan.

 

 

 

George W. Bush represents the False Prophet.

 

 

 

It's so obvious.

 

 

 

Here is an artist's sketch of the Rapture:

 

 

 

 

You know that image is directly from the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion, right :P ?

 

 

 

Crap. I thought I was the only one on these forums that liked the anime. lol.

[Hi9im8Here7]

Why you are all arguing about this being true or not? Read this, register it somewhere in your dusty head, then if someday the government truly wants to do a NAU, and a NWO, then it will be the time to bring out the pearl out of your head, and SAY NO!

 

 

 

They are doing it. Right now. Hence this thread.

 

 

 

None of you have access to this information, no one knows what is going on for sure, you just repeat other people's darned opinions and facts, be it the governments, skeptics, conspiracy scholars, then you mix up some ad hominem statements, but in fact you are just a dumb joe sitting in front of your computer with no idea what is going on or not.

 

 

 

Actually I like to believe I have a pretty good idea what's going on. I'm no expert, but i'm not stupid if that's what you're thinking.

 

 

 

Actually, just having an opinion on this is stupid.

 

 

 

What do you mean?

 

 

Just sit with a watchful eye and watch the events unfold, and if needed, act to protect your rights. They are you're rights, everyone should protect them regardless of their beliefs!

 

 

 

The only way to protect my rights at this point is to get the word out to as many people as I can. If I don't do that when the time comes hardly anyone will even care anymore.

 

 

Why the hell didn't you protect your rights when Bush decided he could do whatever he wanted to YOU based on the assumption you could be a terrorist?! Have you forgotten what United States was based on? Have you forgotten what your ancestors have fought and died for?!

 

 

 

 

i remembered, and i'm trying to get other people to remmeber. :P

 

 

 

 

Sometimes I wonder if the human race is even worth trying to save. Are a species that ignorant, selfish, self-centered, egocentric, arrogant, agressive race even worth living? Heh, serious doubts on that. As usual, humans have failed to learn from history, and will repeat past mistakes over and over. The human race might aswell be annihalated right now, our planet would be much better without us, and we would stop all this pointlessness.

 

 

 

Oh my god what did you just say? Do you even realize how violent you're sounding? Just because humans are easily fooled they don't have a right to exist? Just because i'm trying to counteract that I don't have a right to exist?

 

 

 

You're starting to sound like a globalist. :uhh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: I didn't have enough. IGNORE if you TRULY aren't in the 80%, OBVIOUSLY, Why do people have to repeat that over and over, isn't OBVIOUS? If you are in the 80% I despise, then this is for you, don't take offence, it is the raw truth. I'm not here to ego-debate with you, I have to specify that because your first idiotic instinct is to do so, well give it up, I DON'T care anymore, go PLAY OUTSIDE INSTEAD.

 

 

 

You mean do you think i'm in the "intelligent" top 20% who think they're better than everyone else? I think not. :roll:

 

 

 

Don't divide the world into classes, that's human's first mistake. The people like you in power think it's OK to massacre 80% of the population to "save" the planet. It may not seem like that, but keep your eyes open.

 

 

 

I am sick of you egocentric, [wagon], you form 80% of the population of this planet. Oh I know, you will reply saying I'm the stupid one blah blah blah, that's the kind of stupid thing that you do that makes you [wagon] in the first place. Have a nice day, and kill yourself while you are at it, you know you are an egocentric, ignorant person, and yet you arrogantly still want to exist and obviously you think you are so much superior to everyone else. Truth? Child games, you are a stupid and selfish as our leaders. Money money money, the sweet illusion of the idiotic. Sick of it, rotten scumbags, most of you don't deserve even living, and the actual intelligent people are stuck with you! You even get in stupid little arguments, ego arguments with the intelligent, and of course since you are more skilled in the stupid ego debates, you "own" the intelligent. Feel good doesn't it? Well I'm SICK of it, there's no way to get an intelligent conversation going with you CHILDREN, you turn it into THIS, UNEDUCATED statements; ad hominems attacks, "Omg that's so not true". Can it get any dumber? And yes, I'm PISSED you noticed? Pissed to deal with the bunch of idiots you are! Pissed! I'm saying you something VERY simple. DEFEND YOUR RIGHTS. And yet you will still find a way to complain about that, or to find an EXCUSE to do NOTHING! Just admit it, you are LAZY, and you would rather be enslave that to have to do anything to help yourself, and your country! You should be ashamed!

 

 

 

That is one of the most hateful things I have ever heard. Just take a deep breath and calm down for a moment.

 

 

 

I am trying to defend my rights, have I ever said otherwise? And i'm trying to do it to the best of my knowledge. Does that make me a lazy "scumbag"?

 

 

 

Your post has made me confident that what i'm doing is the right thing. I can't let this sort of illusion of the stupid vs. the smart go on. It's more like the people vs. the control freaks.

 

 

 

I'm not going to argue with what you're saying. I can't argue with madness. But i'll give you a chance to retract them if you were doing this in a rage.

[knives669]

I got to the first bold part and started laughing. I don't trust the American government, but I find it hard to believe that they're behind 911.

 

 

 

People have way too much time on their hands these days.

[ironmaiden666]

Off-topic: Bush doesnt have the mental capacity to orchastrate this, he's like a kid with a giant train set.

 

 

 

On-Topic: I beilive that all goverments are corrupt as "Absolute Power corrupts absolutely"(forgotten who says that :( ), but you have been reading into dystopia's to much. HAve you read 1984? the main characher in the book wonders whether the bombs which are fired upon are fired by their own goverment to keep them in check.

 

 

 

I dont beilve that the american or any european govermant could throw away the moral sof killing their own people so easily. You might say i#they do it to keep us in check, but as you have proved, people scrutinize every fact for conspiracies, so that defeats the object of keeping us in check, it just creates a massive uprising.

[Hi9im8Here7]

Off-topic: Bush doesnt have the mental capacity to orchastrate this, he's like a kid with a giant train set.

 

 

 

I wouldn't count on it...

 

 

 

 

On-Topic: I beilive that all goverments are corrupt as "Absolute Power corrupts absolutely"(forgotten who says that Sad ), but you have been reading into dystopia's to much. HAve you read 1984? the main characher in the book wonders whether the bombs which are fired upon are fired by their own goverment to keep them in check.

 

 

 

I haven't read it, but i'm planning to get it at the library today.

 

 

 

I don't understand the fact that people know governments are corrupt but they neglect to look into them. Have you ever considered the possibility that by the end of this century we really could be in a world like the one george orwell wrote about in his book? (again, i've only heard about, planning to get it as soon as possible)

 

 

 

 

I dont beilve that the american or any european govermant could throw away the moral sof killing their own people so easily. You might say i#they do it to keep us in check, but as you have proved, people scrutinize every fact for conspiracies, so that defeats the object of keeping us in check, it just creates a massive uprising.

 

 

 

Have you read about operation Northwoods? That was a plan hatched by the US government that involved killing american citizens and blaming it on Cuba as a pretext for a war. It was never done, but just the fact that the plan was seriously considered is disturbing. I'd recommend you google it or something...