PastyGangsta Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Google ranks the page depending on how many pages have a link to your page. So basically, if you have 5 sites linking to you and someone else 3, you'll be above him. That however is way too simplistic, it's actually a bit more complicated. If you have a high "page rank" (a number determining how high your ranking is based on the linking principal) the pages you're linking to automatically gives them a higher page rank then if a page with a low page rank links to that page. After all, a link from the IBM homepage has much more value then a link from your blog. Also, the less links you have, the page rank the linked to sites gain, you automatically spread your page rank evenly amongst the site you link to. This however creates a mathematical problem, because to know the page rank of a certain page, you need to know the page rank of the pages linking to it, but to know that, you need to know the page rank of those pages, etc. (I don't know how this is solved yet, I know it has something to do with matrixes, but that's where I am now with learning about page rank :wink:). So the conclusion probably is, Zybez has more pages linking to them and/or the pages linking to Zybez have a higher page rank themselves. The googlebot (its actually known as that) literally crawls through the web. And so the more pages you have linked to the website through a particular search the higher your rating on google. Some sites are blacklisted by google, BMW are one of them because they created a separate page with thousands of links to their site just to get high google rankings. I believe this is the answer you're looking for. That system of ranking only comes into play AFTER the websights have paid to be at the top of Google's list. Sure, getting your website on Google is free, but getting in the top 5 pages of results isn't. The world (and digital world) revolve around money, get used to it. The only way to boost Tip.it's rank on Google is to: 1. Pay Google lots of money 2. Kill all bot programs known to man, and some that are only known to Dolphins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happybappy Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 First page of results: RuneScape - the massive online adventure game by Jagex Ltd RuneScape There are currently 135088 people playing! ... adventurers face off against one of the most fearsome monsters in RuneScape: the King Black Dragon. ... http://www.runescape.com/ - 12k - Cached - Similar pages RuneScape - the massive online adventure game by Jagex Ltd Miniclip is an official affiliate of RuneScape. For more information Click Here. This website and its contents are copyright ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâé 1999 - 2007 Jagex Ltd. ... http://www.runescape.com/aff/miniclip/minicliptitle.ws - 5k - Cached - Similar pages RuneScape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia RuneScape is a Java-based MMORPG operated by Jagex Ltd. With over ten million active free accounts [1] and more than one million paid member accounts, ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RuneScape - 109k - Cached - Similar pages Zybez Runescape Help: Your source for Runescape tips since 2001 A RuneScape help site and RuneScape community providing all RuneScape players with Runescape skill and item price guides, Runescape quest guides, ... http://www.zybez.net/ - 33k - Cached - Similar pages Editted out links to RS Gold sites - McGuff1 You can't pay google to raise your rank. The most you can do is get a "sponsored link". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordkafei Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 If you look at the source code of each page, you will notice that Zybez managed to crowbar the word "Runescape" into the description 6 times. Then go look at tip.it's source code - only once. Google ranking is a bit of a black art. If you search Yahoo!, you see tip.it is #3 (behind Jagex and the Wikipedia entry for Runescape). Look at the Zybez code again and search for "mmoads." :shame: But they don't support gold farming or real-world trading, oh no how dare anyone suggest that. They just take ad money from those sites and publicize them. But that's not the same as supporting them, oh no don't even dare suggest that. GMAFB. PvP is not for meIn the 3rd Year of the BoycottReal-world money saved since FT/W: Hundreds of DollarsReal-world time saved since FT/W: Thousands of Hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchainmail Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Also, google has "smart searching" Based upon what you have searched for before (and therefore clicked on) that would change your results. So if you search for runescape a lot but just click on tip.it, tip.it would be at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFJ Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I dunno. I like Zybez for a lot of things they have on there. *GASP!* They have nice quest guides(not a fan of tip.it's >.<) and I love the price guide. OH EM GEE. i must be some sort of evil, evil man from there. That vile website with it's errr...bad stuff. Siggy By...me! ^^ If you've got any tips on sig making, photoshop in general, or a recommendation on a good DSLR to get me started, pm me =] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happybappy Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 I dunno. I like Zybez for a lot of things they have on there. *GASP!* They have nice quest guides(not a fan of tip.it's >.<) and I love the price guide. OH EM GEE. i must be some sort of evil, evil man from there. That vile website with it's errr...bad stuff. Well you are obviously wrong as all the unbiased people before you have supported tip.it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill_Thomas9 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Because they payed more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happybappy Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Because they payed more. I already said google does not let people pay for results, only sponsored links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davydudeman Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Because 90% of clans use their forums to post run ins and advertise, but they have a rule where you have to put a link to zybez on your forum if you advertise their. But the fact is, it has the most immature community I've ever seen in my life, including the official forums. Don't believe me? Go look at their pking forums, and I have yet to see a pk run in topic without any flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill_Thomas9 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Because they payed more. I already said google does not let people pay for results, only sponsored links. I guess my last 2 english teachers have been lieing in that case... (And why did I say "payed" instead of "paid"?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckyowns Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Don't care, don't know :XD: We all know Tip.it is better really :P +1 +2 O Hai dere hans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke2006 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Don't care, don't know :XD: We all know Tip.it is better really :P ditto :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happybappy Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Because they payed more. I already said google does not let people pay for results, only sponsored links. I guess my last 2 english teachers have been lieing in that case... (And why did I say "payed" instead of "paid"?) Google does not sell placement within the results themselves (i.e., no one can buy a particular or higher placement) From http://www.google.com/technology/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_lord Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Isn't that good? Now all the newbs who google search "runescape" will go to zybez and spam it up instead of coming here \ Good point. :lol: Who cares if we're not on the first page anymore? We're still the best! 8-) Pretty much what Dragon said.Thread terminated.I guess that means I'm the thread Terminator? No Tip.Iters were harmed in the making of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meili Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 They have more sites linked to them than Tip It. I guess that is basically the reason. The Runescape Wilderness - Meili's Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aglips Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Who cares? I don't. Why waste your time worrying about such a trivial matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgen Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 runescapeloser22 wrote: Isn't that good? Now all the newbs who google search "runescape" will go to zybez and spam it up instead of coming here LOL? Sadly, Zybez forums are times more attractive, due to Zybez's fansite having great quality on guides, databases. Zybez forums seem to have a stronger clan forum, as well PK one. And everyone saying Zybez is promoting gold selling, then you have to be plain dumb. The adverts are there, just to pay for the bill they have to pay for servers and I'd rather see a gold selling advertise than get a pop-up everytime like I do in tip.it. Because 90% of clans use their forums to post run ins and advertise, but they have a rule where you have to put a link to zybez on your forum if you advertise their. But the fact is, it has the most immature community I've ever seen in my life, including the official forums. Don't believe me? Go look at their pking forums, and I have yet to see a pk run in topic without any flames. Oh hi hypocrite, like tip.it forum doesn't have immature kids? The thing is, too many people make pointless topics, just act stupid and can't handle criticism, because they are used to their e-friends sucking up to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin_ Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Probably because of dumb topics (including your own). Some people dream of success, while others make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiesje Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Another EDIT: I also found this article. The first thing has already been posted on this forum, but I was pretty surprised by the last paragraph. I was wondering what the username could be? (Note; it states a boy hanged himself after he thought he was hacked a few years back, his account was in the top 10.) According to someone who reacted it was Kale Stille. On-Topic, yes Tip.it is better, I don't care if they're on the second page, although Zybez has a very usefull price guide. Animum debes mutare, non caelum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umega Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 but now it is on the second page, behind zybez and a bunch of gold buying sites. *Sighs* Trust those sites to come first... It wasn't like that a few years ago, it was all Fansites, now it's just those stupid gold selling sites. :| No longer playing Runescape, I caught the WoW bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooferfish Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Those sites may have payed to be higher on the results. Tip.it is the first thing that come up when you search tip though. I thought google brought you results based on most clicks?it doesn't really matter.. The naughty double S might have something to do with it? I'm with mrmyk here, not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happybappy Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Google's pagerank depends on many things including: Quality and number of sites you link to and that link to you. Number of clicks on your site from google. How many times a keyword appears on your site. Whether the main theme of your content has changed recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwreeTak Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Maybe it's just because the word "Runescape" is found more times on Zybez? Well, I don't got a clue actually :P And I don't really care about it either. Add me if you so wish: SwreeTak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calum12 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I heard that google and other search engines work by looking for a combination of links to that page, views and the number of times that word appears in context. Hmmm.... I need a new siggy, get round to doing it later. Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FooK-A-Ji Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 No offence, but tip.it has seen better days, really. I'm waiting for a great comeback :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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