klankaos Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 This post is for Runescapew44 and Dillingham1, specifically, after a discussion about the numbers we got (all different =D). I did the calculations, and here's what I got, calculations included. I used Tip.It skill calculators. The Solo Method Essence crafted into natures: 1,442,087 Essence crafted into natures before 91: 649,687 Essence crafted into natures after 91: 792,400 Natures crafted before 91: 649,687 Natures crafted after 91: 1,584,800 (792,400x2) Total natures crafted: 2,234,487 Natures crafted: 2,234,487 Essence used: 1,442,087 Nature price: 300ea Essence price: 100ea Super energy cost: 1,900ea Essence crafted per super energy: Two loads (based on personal calculations) Each load of essence: 52 (assuming pouches up to giant and a one-click teleport) Essence crafted per super energy: 104 Total amount of super energies needed: 13,866 Total cost of super energies: 26,345,820 Total money earned before deductions: 670,346,100 Money earned after essence deductions: 526,137,400 (670,346,100 - 144,208,700) TOTAL money earned after super energy and essence deductions: 499,791,580 (526,137,400 - 26,345,820) The FFL Method Essence crafted into laws: 605,470 Essence crafted into natures: 792,400 Natures crafted: 1,584,800 Super energy cost: 1,900ea Essence crafted per super energy: Two loads Essence per load: 52 Essence crafted per super energy: 104 Total number of super energies used: 7620 Total cost of super energies: 14,476,539 Money lost making laws: 60,547,000 (605,470x100) Money made making natures before costs: 475,440,000 Money made after deductions for laws and natures essence: 335,653,000 TOTAL money made after deductions for essence and super energies: 321,176,461 Amount you lose doing this method over soloing: 152,269,299 Enjoy! Being immature is a part of being mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salim123 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 wow nice calculations :P i thought it made less money then that >.< but i guess i was wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toad Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 and you posted because? :S not many solo to 99 and essence price, energy pot use, varys on what players agility is, what their other stats is spawn points etc getting rc pked you loose glorys having to buy back you loose other items including essence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemathonical Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 :shock: Ka-Ching! ^Sir Jem 05-The Bunny Drinking Blog?^ Click it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_blob Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 You should try calculating the time it takes to get that...that information would be very helpful then. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klankaos Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 and you posted because? :S not many solo to 99 and essence price, energy pot use, varys on what players agility is, what their other stats is spawn points etc getting rc pked you loose glorys having to buy back you loose other items including essence I posted because of a discussion I had on tipitchat, where we were comparing the results of calculations we'd made. I am actually hoping to solo to 99, as are both the people I mentioned, and even if I don't do it, it's still nice to know how much money I can make. As for RC PKers, that's why I included the one-click teleport in my calculations. I've never been PKed since I started carrying a oneclick tele. And the items you lose are worth a maximum of 90k including the glory, so they're hardly worth including in the calculations even if you do get PKed, unless you get PKed, like, once every 10k natures, which would be pretty bad. You should try calculating the time it takes to get that...that information would be very helpful then. :D I think at my rates, I once calculated somewhere around a year and three months... :D Being immature is a part of being mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessmastuh Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Get Saidin down here, he's calculated this out extensively, lol. That looks roughly correct - since essence/nat prices fluctuate wierdly due to extensive merchanting, there's no real average that you can place on those prices. I'd argue that the essence average is closer to 85-ish, but 100 isn't a whole lot different. A lot of people do 80-91 at ffl, so if you're interested in doing more calculations, you could factor that in and find how much 80-99 doing that method would take. Stunning signature created by the one and only My Boggy. Just like Columbus he gets murderous on purpose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klankaos Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 Get Saidin down here, he's calculated this out extensively, lol. That looks roughly correct - since essence/nat prices fluctuate wierdly due to extensive merchanting, there's no real average that you can place on those prices. I'd argue that the essence average is closer to 85-ish, but 100 isn't a whole lot different. A lot of people do 80-91 at ffl, so if you're interested in doing more calculations, you could factor that in and find how much 80-99 doing that method would take. I just kinda took what I've seen to be the average of prices. For instance, I heard the shop update boosted nats to 330ea, but I don't know if that's true. And when I get home, I'll figure out the FFL method, should be interesting. Being immature is a part of being mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapour Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Get Saidin down here, he's calculated this out extensively, lol. That looks roughly correct - since essence/nat prices fluctuate wierdly due to extensive merchanting, there's no real average that you can place on those prices. I'd argue that the essence average is closer to 85-ish, but 100 isn't a whole lot different. A lot of people do 80-91 at ffl, so if you're interested in doing more calculations, you could factor that in and find how much 80-99 doing that method would take. Have you checked the ess average after the shop update? It's closer to 120-ish now. Hacked on January 5, 2007 --> Lost: 56.4M, Santa Hat, Purple Partyhat, Green Partyhat, Christmas Crackerpeople who get rich and do it legit like joob and I always get f'd over in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Free Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 o cool factor in that i will be rc pking you about 25 times so u need mad glories, yo @Dragonseance #1 to 200m all.www.twitter.com/dragonseance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klankaos Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 Have you checked the ess average after the shop update? It's closer to 120-ish now. Really? That's brutal... However, it still results in around ~200gp per profit, if the nat price I heard was true. o cool factor in that i will be rc pking you about 25 times so u need mad glories, yo Good luck, oneclick tele ftw? =D Being immature is a part of being mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superson Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 ...Money earned after essence deductions: 526,137,400 (670,346,100 - 1,442,087)... This second number should be 144,208,700. Your calculation came out fine anyways, you just forgot to multiply that by 100 (essence cost). It worked out to the right number, just pointing that out. Nice facts, I somehow though you would make more though... In Soviet Russia, glass eats OTers. Alansson Alansson, woo woo woo! Pink owns yes, just like you!GOOOOOOOOOO ALAN! WOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonics411 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 :shock: wow i never thought it would be that much, but I can't even afford it plus im not a member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Yes! I think 20K super en. will be fine for me maybe! Wish me luck :ohnoes: Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aneron Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Isn't the new altar much better and cheaper than ffl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 That amount sounds all and great but you forgot one big factor. The amount of pure ess you need for 99. :-w Unless somehow you get tons of pure ess for free which is impossible. I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klankaos Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 ...Money earned after essence deductions: 526,137,400 (670,346,100 - 1,442,087)... This second number should be 144,208,700. Your calculation came out fine anyways, you just forgot to multiply that by 100 (essence cost). It worked out to the right number, just pointing that out. Nice facts, I somehow though you would make more though... Whoopsies! Just forgot to add the zeroes in the brackets, they were included in my calculations. :oops: Thanks for picking that up. Isn't the new altar much better and cheaper than ffl? It's cheaper, but slower exp I believe. That amount sounds all and great but you forgot one big factor. The amount of pure ess you need for 99. :-w Unless somehow you get tons of pure ess for free which is impossible. I did show that, I think, unless you're thinking of a different thing than me. TOTAL money earned after super energy and essence deductions: 473,445,760 (526,137,400 - 52,961,640) Being immature is a part of being mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatebringer Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 you technically don't need to add super energies, as some people don't use em, although it takes longer. but wow, 500m, nice 99 Fletching 99 Attack 99 Constitution 99 Cooking 99 StrengthGamertag: H8tebringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 How many hours would 99 Rc take? :-/ 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klankaos Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 you technically don't need to add super energies, as some people don't use em, although it takes longer. but wow, 500m, nice I could never runecraft without super energies. I tried it once - it's so amazingly slow, I couldn't handle it. It's a slow enough skill already. How many hours would 99 Rc take? :-/ Well, I assume 1.5k essence an hour, but reflecting on that, I'm realizing that I don't have a giant pouch. I'll go with 2k essence crafted per hour. If someone has a number more accurate, please tell me. At 2k per hour, it would take 723 hours, give or take lots due to different runecrafters having different speeds, etc. I'm working on adding the FFL to 91 method, it'll be up in ten minutes or so. Being immature is a part of being mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klankaos Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 Okay, here's the FFL to 91 method. Essence crafted into laws: 605,470 Essence crafted into natures: 792,400 Natures crafted: 1,584,800 Super energy cost: 1,900ea Essence crafted per super energy: Two loads Essence per load: 52 Essence crafted per super energy: 104 Total number of super energies used: 7620 Total cost of super energies: 14,476,539 Money lost making laws: 60,547,000 (605,470x100) Money made making natures before costs: 475,440,000 Money made after deductions for laws and natures essence: 335,653,000 TOTAL money made after deductions for essence and super energies: 321,176,461 Amount you lose doing this method over soloing: 152,269,299 Enjoy! This has been added to the original post as well. Being immature is a part of being mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Ryan20 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 crafting nats like this is impossible, you will get bored around the first 100k nats in a row trust me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klankaos Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 I've done 50k and am aching to do more as soon as I possibly can, I love runecrafting. Being immature is a part of being mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wachtwoord Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Someone has compared a bit more methods then you, just look at this guide (and the conclusion) on the RSOF: 22-23-135-51123056 When everything's been said and done, more has been said than done.All skills 80+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klankaos Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 Wow, that's truly an IMMENSE guide. I love it. However, he didn't compare the amount of money you make getting 99. He compared methods using exp/hour and gp/hour, not the same thing I did. But, for any aspiring runecrafters out there (myself!) it's a wonderful guide, perhaps the most comprehensive one there is on the net. I'm using that guide from here on in. Being immature is a part of being mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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