underu2000 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 ouch. The PS3 version of the orange box was plauged with slowdowns. Granted valve didn't actually do the PS3 version, they pawned it off onto an EA company. However even if it isn't all the PS3's fault it's no doubt to hurt it a bit more, losing a good game like ToB. Yeah the 360 version = horrible as well. What're you talking about...The 360 version was fine. It may not have had the player content you get from PC, but otherwise it was near identical. Life is a joke. Yeah, I don't get it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpbizkit Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 ouch. The PS3 version of the orange box was plauged with slowdowns. Granted valve didn't actually do the PS3 version, they pawned it off onto an EA company. However even if it isn't all the PS3's fault it's no doubt to hurt it a bit more, losing a good game like ToB. Yeah the 360 version = horrible as well. What're you talking about...The 360 version was fine. It may not have had the player content you get from PC, but otherwise it was near identical. I was on about tf2 live. Tif 360 MGC Leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 interesting article. i agree in some parts with it. the biggest reason for the falling sales of ps3 is that sony bet the farm on blu ray technology when it hasn't come into common use. it almost seems that sony is trying to bully the market into blu ray instead of hd-dvd. they took a huge gamble and so far it hasn't payed off like they had hoped.truggling as it has been. don't count sony out though. Blu-Ray movies and discs cost multiple times per single unit than 10 blank recordable DVD or HD-DVD. The 5% or so quality increase is not worth it even if the discs contain 25gb of data. You still end up losing money just to use "new technology" compared to earlier, lossless quality formats. Also, just about no standard DVD player/computer has blue-violet laser burning or reading capability. It's not going to become an average-customer reality anytime soon, if ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henman888 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Ok, back onto topic: I'm not much of a sony person any more but i will say a few things to answer this whole thread. Playstation 3 failure? Maybe yes a few months ago but now? Right now the PS3 is doing fine. Its had some good games released and sales are higher. My conclusion is that it is doing ok but if sony wants it to catch up more then they will need to do more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReapMe Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 ouch. The PS3 version of the orange box was plauged with slowdowns. Granted valve didn't actually do the PS3 version, they pawned it off onto an EA company. However even if it isn't all the PS3's fault it's no doubt to hurt it a bit more, losing a good game like ToB. Yeah the 360 version = horrible as well. What're you talking about...The 360 version was fine. It may not have had the player content you get from PC, but otherwise it was near identical. I was on about tf2 live. i enjoyed the pc version more maybe it's just that i prefer a keyboard or something #-o though i won't say the ps3 version is unplayable until i try it myself. though i won't buy it since my friend has the 360 version that i can borrow and i have the pc one. i don't wanna pay $60 for another one of the same game :-# What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpbizkit Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 ouch. The PS3 version of the orange box was plauged with slowdowns. Granted valve didn't actually do the PS3 version, they pawned it off onto an EA company. However even if it isn't all the PS3's fault it's no doubt to hurt it a bit more, losing a good game like ToB. Yeah the 360 version = horrible as well. What're you talking about...The 360 version was fine. It may not have had the player content you get from PC, but otherwise it was near identical. I was on about tf2 live. i enjoyed the pc version more maybe it's just that i prefer a keyboard or something #-o though i won't say the ps3 version is unplayable until i try it myself. though i won't buy it since my friend has the 360 version that i can borrow and i have the pc one. i don't wanna pay $60 for another one of the same game :-# hehe i prefer the old fashioned control pad so yeh >.> Tif 360 MGC Leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deskjethp Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 i like ps3s cuz u dont have to pay $/year to get net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 i like ps3s cuz u dont have to pay $/year to get net It takes a day or two of work to pay for the entire year. Considering how much better live is to what sony is offering it is well worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 ouch. The PS3 version of the orange box was plauged with slowdowns. Granted valve didn't actually do the PS3 version, they pawned it off onto an EA company. However even if it isn't all the PS3's fault it's no doubt to hurt it a bit more, losing a good game like ToB. Yeah the 360 version = horrible as well. What're you talking about...The 360 version was fine. It may not have had the player content you get from PC, but otherwise it was near identical. I was on about tf2 live. i enjoyed the pc version more maybe it's just that i prefer a keyboard or something #-o though i won't say the ps3 version is unplayable until i try it myself. though i won't buy it since my friend has the 360 version that i can borrow and i have the pc one. i don't wanna pay $60 for another one of the same game :-# hehe i prefer the old fashioned control pad so yeh >.> Spot the FPSer This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millard Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 ouch. The PS3 version of the orange box was plauged with slowdowns. Granted valve didn't actually do the PS3 version, they pawned it off onto an EA company. However even if it isn't all the PS3's fault it's no doubt to hurt it a bit more, losing a good game like ToB. Yeah the 360 version = horrible as well. What're you talking about...The 360 version was fine. It may not have had the player content you get from PC, but otherwise it was near identical. I was on about tf2 live. i enjoyed the pc version more maybe it's just that i prefer a keyboard or something #-o though i won't say the ps3 version is unplayable until i try it myself. though i won't buy it since my friend has the 360 version that i can borrow and i have the pc one. i don't wanna pay $60 for another one of the same game :-# hehe i prefer the old fashioned control pad so yeh >.> Spot the FPSer Sorry to sound like an idiot, but whats a FPSer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapeloser22 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 [hide=Massive Quote Wall]ouch. The PS3 version of the orange box was plauged with slowdowns. Granted valve didn't actually do the PS3 version, they pawned it off onto an EA company. However even if it isn't all the PS3's fault it's no doubt to hurt it a bit more, losing a good game like ToB. Yeah the 360 version = horrible as well. What're you talking about...The 360 version was fine. It may not have had the player content you get from PC, but otherwise it was near identical. I was on about tf2 live. i enjoyed the pc version more maybe it's just that i prefer a keyboard or something #-o though i won't say the ps3 version is unplayable until i try it myself. though i won't buy it since my friend has the 360 version that i can borrow and i have the pc one. i don't wanna pay $60 for another one of the same game :-# hehe i prefer the old fashioned control pad so yeh >.> Spot the FPSer Sorry to sound like an idiot, but whats a FPSer?[/hide] First Person Shooter :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underu2000 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I don't think Bubs plays much FPS's, he's more into Zero Wing and Barbie: Pony Adventures, that kind of thing. :anxious: [take covah!] Anyway... I guess tf2 wouldn't be so much fun with the lack of players on xbl, but other than it would be fine. If it's the controller vs mouse thing, it's not much of a problem imo. The halflife and Portal games would also be more or less the same as the PC version. Life is a joke. Yeah, I don't get it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 ^ Hahahahahahahahaha!!! :XD: :lol: I think it's a waste. It's expensive, there's problems with dust buildup, and, what, five or so good games? :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune2thescape Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 ^ Hahahahahahahahaha!!! :XD: :lol: I think it's a waste. It's expensive, there's problems with dust buildup, and, what, five or so good games? :roll: There's only 4 decent exclusive games I can think of: Resistance Motorstorm Rrrriiiiiiiigggggeeeee racer Warhawk Sony really needs to buck up their ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhaperPlane Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I'm getting a PS3 for Christmas, I have been looking around for offers in town and so far, I have found the Ultimate deal: PS3 40GB Free Sixaxis controller Free Acessory 2 Free games which are in the top 20 chart. All for ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã360 :shock: Anyway, in my view, I like the PS3. More than the 360 (I own a Nintendo Wii) but I perfer the range of games out there on the PS3. Plus, I've got a fancy HD T.V as well, so its all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verminox Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I'm getting a PS3 for Christmas, I have been looking around for offers in town and so far, I have found the Ultimate deal: PS3 40GB Free Sixaxis controller Free Acessory 2 Free games which are in the top 20 chart. All for ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã360 :shock: Anyway, in my view, I like the PS3. More than the 360 (I own a Nintendo Wii) but I perfer the range of games out there on the PS3. Plus, I've got a fancy HD T.V as well, so its all good. Wheres the extra ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã60 from if all the accessories and games are free, I thought the console on its own was around ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhaperPlane Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I'm getting a PS3 for Christmas, I have been looking around for offers in town and so far, I have found the Ultimate deal: PS3 40GB Free Sixaxis controller Free Acessory 2 Free games which are in the top 20 chart. All for ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã360 :shock: Anyway, in my view, I like the PS3. More than the 360 (I own a Nintendo Wii) but I perfer the range of games out there on the PS3. Plus, I've got a fancy HD T.V as well, so its all good. Wheres the extra ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã60 from if all the accessories and games are free, I thought the console on its own was around ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã300. Its a "deal", stores have got to make a profit out of it somehow and so do Sony. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henman888 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I'm getting a PS3 for Christmas, I have been looking around for offers in town and so far, I have found the Ultimate deal: PS3 40GB Free Sixaxis controller Free Acessory 2 Free games which are in the top 20 chart. All for ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã360 :shock: Anyway, in my view, I like the PS3. More than the 360 (I own a Nintendo Wii) but I perfer the range of games out there on the PS3. Plus, I've got a fancy HD T.V as well, so its all good. Wheres the extra ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã60 from if all the accessories and games are free, I thought the console on its own was around ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã300. Its a "deal", stores have got to make a profit out of it somehow and so do Sony. :wink: Sony don't make a profit. Infact they lose money on every console they sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Sony don't make a profit. Infact they lose money on every console they sell. This is new and exciting information. IIRC the Microsoft loses money per console as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underu2000 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Sony don't make a profit. Infact they lose money on every console they sell. This is new and exciting information. IIRC the Microsoft loses money per console as well. They did at launch anyway. I think they make a significant profit per console now. The PS3 became slightly cheaper to build too. But both companies compensated with price cuts, which are better business moves than just getting profit per consoles. Price cuts increase sales, which is better than selling less consoles for a higher price. Life is a joke. Yeah, I don't get it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunkthemonk Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 They did at launch anyway. I think they make a significant profit per console now. The PS3 became slightly cheaper to build too. But both companies compensated with price cuts, which are better business moves than just getting profit per consoles. Price cuts increase sales, which is better than selling less consoles for a higher price. I'm curious on how lowering the system price while using the same materials can possibly create a profit? Sony and Microsoft make a profit off selling the games, not the systems. The problem with the gene pool is that there's no lifeguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw_Hat Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Sony don't make a profit. Infact they lose money on every console they sell. This is new and exciting information. IIRC the Microsoft loses money per console as well. They did at launch anyway. I think they make a significant profit per console now. The PS3 became slightly cheaper to build too. But both companies compensated with price cuts, which are better business moves than just getting profit per consoles. Price cuts increase sales, which is better than selling less consoles for a higher price. yes well most of the systems they sold were sold at losses. sony still loses lots of money per system. i heard if mgs4 didn't sell 1M+ copies on day 1, it would be a failure. though since it's simulatenous world wide release, that isn't too difficult a task. i know for sure microsoft was down atleast $2 Bil at one point due to the cost of making the 360 and said they should be making profits this year. Kaizoku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 i know for sure microsoft was down atleast $2 Bil at one point due to the cost of making the 360 and said they should be making profits this year. That's like pennies to Microsoft. :P I heard about the MGS thing as well. Hopefully they can sell 1 million copies, I'd hate for a great developing company to have a failed game because of the console they decided to work for. However, IMO, I think that if MGS fails on the PS3 (not enough sales) they will try to bring it to the 360. It does make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underu2000 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 They did at launch anyway. I think they make a significant profit per console now. The PS3 became slightly cheaper to build too. But both companies compensated with price cuts, which are better business moves than just getting profit per consoles. Price cuts increase sales, which is better than selling less consoles for a higher price. I'm curious on how lowering the system price while using the same materials can possibly create a profit? Sony and Microsoft make a profit off selling the games, not the systems. Obviously there's more to the price than just the materials. If that were true, a price for any electronic item would never change (clearly not, they get cheaper over time, like with the 360 and ps3). I'm sure that Microsoft makes a profit from the systems they sell now, seeing how the new Falcon chips they use now are noticeably cheaper than the old ones. Same for the new ps3 40 and 80gb ps3 models. I can't give you specific details, but believe me, their manufacturing prices have dropped, and will continue to do so. It's only a matter of time till Nintendo falls suit with the Wii. EDIT: I just realized that by "materials" you probably mean hardware in general. No, they don't use the same hardware, they use cheaper and more efficient stuff. If memory serves, the 360 uses the new Falcon chip (which is cheaper and isn't faulty) and the ps3 uses some 65nm chip as opposed to a 90nm. Don't ask me how or why it makes things cheaper, but apparently it does. Life is a joke. Yeah, I don't get it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzs Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 interesting article howver, I still stick to the trusty PC. No subsitutes there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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