JAGEX PLEASE! Stop killing smithing! bring back its prestige

[frankiani]

Why is it that everytime theres an update, smithing takes all the damage? other skills have had updates, to help you train, to help you make money, but not smithing, smithing is diying :? .. With the grand exchange update, ALL prices went down tremendously, but yew logs, in the other hand, don't drop a bit, they are like 390gp each :evil: .. rune ores dropped a bit too, thats ok, but why all rune stuff has to drop prices so dramaticly, i know there are economic laws behind this, but there won't be smithers who make more stuff anymore, cause nobody likes to loose money! :shame:

 

Smithing has come from being the great F2P money-making skill to simply, just another skill, i have always loved smithing, as many players in runescape, and most of them agree with me that it isn't worth it to train smithing anymore.. Please people at JAGEX, don't kill these skill! :pray:

 

And if you, who is reading these, have something to add, please do..

 

 

 

Forgive me for my english, since is not my main language.

 

And if this isn't in the correct forum please move.

[IAm314159]

Personally, I've found smithing to be extremely boring.

 

Sorry for the "constructive criticism", but I feel that for F2P, runecrafting or woodcutting can be more beneficial to your pocket.

[Mico]

Personally, I've found smithing to be extremely boring.

 

Sorry for the "constructive criticism", but I feel that for F2P, runecrafting or woodcutting can be more beneficial to your pocket.

 

 

 

For runecrafting, it isn' t as profitable as smithing. Making steel bars by buying iron and coal, I think you profit somewhere around 140 gp per bar, as for runecrafting, the trip to the altars takes too long, and runes are cheap. For woodcutting, not possible with all the bots.

 

 

 

Allthough, you must also point out that smithing is, whell, completed. What more can you add to this skill? All you could really add is graphical improvement, not alot more. Atleast, I don' t see any flaws.

[IAm314159]

Personally, I've found smithing to be extremely boring.

 

Sorry for the "constructive criticism", but I feel that for F2P, runecrafting or woodcutting can be more beneficial to your pocket.

 

 

 

For runecrafting, it isn' t as profitable as smithing. Making steel bars by buying iron and coal, I think you profit somewhere around 140 gp per bar, as for runecrafting, the trip to the altars takes too long, and runes are cheap. For woodcutting, not possible with all the bots.

 

 

 

Allthough, you must also point out that smithing is, whell, completed. What more can you add to this skill? All you could really add is graphical improvement, not alot more. Atleast, I don' t see any flaws.

 

For runecrafting, simply buy your essence and craft your way to lvl 66. Well, it takes quite a lot of effort but you will be rewarded in the end with one of the most profitable money-making methods in F2P. AIR RUNNING (but this time you're the crafter). :-w

 

 

 

For woodcutting, go to any of the populated worlds at the Edgeville yews. I specifically like World 1, where the respawn rate is fast and most of the people on World 1 are trading, not going to cut yews. And the Edgeville yews are (most of the time) devoid of bots. The bots prefer the Falador triangle or the Rimmington yews.

 

 

 

Although I must admit that your point about bars is rather relevant, buy the supplies at the GE, smith them into bars, attempt to sell the bars to other players or put them on the GE. I got rather put off the last time I tried this method as it NEARLY drove me to the verge of insanity (even though I made big bucks with it).

[HOSTiLE_KAi]

Idk about the poster's views but there are ways to avoid the prices and still make a profit in f2p.

 

[Also] I heard the coal prices at GE lowered for a bit- 160s each so...

 

 

 

To evade the price hikes well...

 

I would just buy the metal ore and a bunch of natures.

 

 

 

Ex. Mith ores 400 ea, nature 280 each, mine coal somewhere and superheat. BANG'M Smith, mage and mining exp in a long run and a profit of 500 each at least.

 

 

 

Like what Iam said if you still struggle then train other stuff.

[Sharane]

I'd rather take this another way: Illude people into thinking the skill is becoming obsolete so they stop training it altogether, then release something extraordinary when very few people can actually do it.

[Solidus_77]

know there are economic laws behind this, but there won't be smithers who make more stuff anymore, cause nobody likes to loose money!

 

 

 

Yes there are, and if the price is not worth it for smithers, then smithers might stop producing. However if there are no more smithers to produce stuff like you said, then supply falls and therefore price will increase so no, you're wrong.

[Sharane]

I forgot to note: While the market for rune equipment isn't well-recieved in member worlds, it's a HUGE market in free worlds since it's the best kind of armour available. I tried selling a rune scimitar in the Grand Exchange and in no less than THREE seconds it was eaten up!

 

 

 

Another thing to note is the use of said armour for new hard quests due to its fairly good defence values and cost, as well as fighting animated suits of armour in the Warrior's Guild.

[electrone0]

same for fishing. monks usd to be worth 350-400 each now, meh

[Kingtygy]

Yeah, I love smithing and mining, and i noticed how low those prices were. It angered me. And the Full Rune sets, they're now wicked cheap compared to a week ago! Although, I'm not upset with that. Thanks to the low price, I was finally able to buy full rune. :)

[frankiani]

Well, some guys here misunderstood the point of my post, is not for the money-making part, thats just comes with the package.. the post is because i really love the smithing skill, and i feel that is getting left behind, compared to other skills, and i know prices on GE are very low, but that doesn't apply to those big-bulk sellers, they don't sell at GE, and i know that if you put a rune scimitar for sale at the GE ppl will buying really fast, but thats not the point, cuz the prices on scimmies is between 20k and 23k or so, leaving NO marging of profit for the smither..

 

 

 

Thanks for posting guys, i really appreciate your comments.

[Mico]

Whell, let me repeat myself. I don' t know what else to add to smithing. Do you?

[frankiani]

They could add some random stats to the things you make.. They could lower the reqierements of the rune stuff and add some other typer of armor (i once read on a runescape forums a post about this, and they guy had a complete research done about this, very very cool and interesting).. I don't know, there must be a lot of ppl with better ideas (my ideas are very lame btw)..

[Solidus_77]

They could add some random stats to the things you make.. They could lower the reqierements of the rune stuff and add some other typer of armor (i once read on a runescape forums a post about this, and they guy had a complete research done about this, very very cool and interesting).. I don't know, there must be a lot of ppl with better ideas (my ideas are very lame btw)..

 

 

 

100% agreed. :lol: No seriously, the last thing we need is to lower almost every single item requirement in a skill, and the last thing we need is something smithable about rune. Pieces of dragon armor are all obtained via monster hunting.

 

 

 

Smithing isn't a great a skill for cash and neither is mining (85 mining is 200k gp per hour, that's not so great for such a hard achievement). The sooner you admit this fact, the easier it will be. Besides, there are plenty of other moneymaking skills out there, use those to get cash to spend on smithing. You will not only get more cash but you will also get high smithing a lot faster. Talk about a win-win situation.

[frankiani]

Im F2P btw.. not many money-making skills in F2P, smithing was one of them, the best if i may add..

[Mico]

Fishing lobsters is one of the great profitable skills in F2P, but it just eats every one of your sain nerves. And smithing is the best moneymaking skill in F2P I belive, mining is good if you can mine adamantite, but any good adamantie is in level 30 Wilderness...

 

 

 

Now, lowering the level needed to perform a task at smithing, it' s not going to happen, it' s packed from level 1 to level 99, you can' t lower it.

 

Making a higher smithable ore than rune, also not going to happen. Dragonite ore is the only option, but where to put it in the smithing skill? Also, dragon items are supposed to be uniqe.

[RayOxide]

:oops: I find Smithing to be one of the best ways to makemoney.

 

 

 

Scratch that...

 

 

 

I found Smithing to be one of the best ways to make money... A while ago.

 

 

 

Jagex's game.

 

Jagex's prices.

 

Jagex's choice.

 

 

 

Before G.E.

 

Iron 100ea

 

Coal 200ea

 

500ea steel bar - sell 550-650

 

 

 

After G.E.

 

Iron 90ea

 

Coal 180ea

 

450ea steel bar - sell 500-600ea

 

 

 

Drastic. :cry:

[dragoonson]

 

 

 

Jagex's game.

 

Jagex's prices.

 

Jagex's choice.

 

 

 

Before G.E.

 

Iron 100ea

 

Coal 200ea

 

500ea steel bar - sell 550-650

 

 

 

After G.E.

 

Iron 90ea

 

Coal 180ea

 

450ea steel bar - sell 500-600ea

 

 

 

Drastic. :cry:

 

 

 

650-500=150

 

550-500=50

 

Profit before GE:50-150

 

 

 

650-450=150

 

500-450=50

 

Profit after GE:50-150

 

 

 

Difference in maximum profit:0

 

Difference in minimum profit:0

 

 

 

Drastic? :notalk:

[6kirkegard]

I for one don't really mind, since smithing is so incredibly boring!

[RayOxide]

^

 

 

 

650-500=150

 

550-500=50

 

Profit before GE:50-150

 

 

 

650-450=150

 

500-450=50

 

Profit after GE:50-150

 

 

 

650-450=200.

 

 

 

Wrong maths dude

 

 

 

There is a definate screw up.

[frankiani]

I for one don't really mind, since smithing is so incredibly boring!

 

 

 

You just happen not to like it, but i like it :

[magicmagicy]

Ummm so what do you want?

 

Faster way to get smith xp?

 

Get really rich then just buy the bars

 

 

 

Make smith more profitable?

 

Smelt ores and sell bars, you get a good profit there.

 

 

 

Personally, i don't see anything wrong with smithing being a cash drainer, it makes getting 99 all that better.

 

 

 

As for the ores and bars being screwed up by the exchange, they are not. The ores and bars all went down the same percent so theres not difference if you smelt then, you make more now.

 

 

 

THe only ones who lose out are miners because they get less per ore, but this is about smithing, not about mining.

[highlanders]

I also think it's a shame smithing is not profitable. But you know, these are things that happen. The demand of certain items drop, or materials become to expensive, and slowly some skills become less profitable. There's not much we can do except to hope Jagex makes a new high demand smithable item. Just go with the flow and do whatever skill is profitable at the moment.

[frankiani]

Ummm so what do you want?

 

Faster way to get smith xp?

 

Get really rich then just buy the bars

 

 

 

Make smith more profitable?

 

Smelt ores and sell bars, you get a good profit there.

 

 

 

Personally, i don't see anything wrong with smithing being a cash drainer, it makes getting 99 all that better.

 

 

 

As for the ores and bars being screwed up by the exchange, they are not. The ores and bars all went down the same percent so theres not difference if you smelt then, you make more now.

 

 

 

THe only ones who lose out are miners because they get less per ore, but this is about smithing, not about mining.

 

 

 

Im not complaining about xp rates, i don't want to get really rich either, i just wanna have fun, its not fun to be thinking more about if you are loosing cash or not, i just want to train, i just want smithing to be the skill that it was.. im complaining about the ores&bars/stuff relation.. i don't like any other skill the way i like smithing, smithing have always had some kind of prestige, and now its like just another skill, at least thats the way i see it.. i don't enjoy training another skills as i enjoy training smithing.. but its ok, im mining my own ores now..

 

 

 

as for the miners, the only miners that are being most affected by the G.E. are the coal/iron miners, cuz those prices went down a lot..

 

 

 

thanks for your opinion, btw.. but i hope you realize that this post is not about adding more xp or so, im sorry if i said something like that in earlier post (talk about contradiction) i just want to have fun again..

[Zheyth]

I agree with you they are killing it.

 

 

 

Prices are dropping woth most skills. :|