Zombie Plans-Revised

[Seraphi]

That would depend on what all we use to make ourselves self sufficient in the first place, wouldn't it?

 

I mean if we were going to farm our food or something of the like, that would take an enormous wall, stretching for miles around an enclosed area.

 

It'd be like bible time walls. \

 

This is why you go somewhere where the terrain already creates a basic fortress, and expand on that.

[Wisp]

If we want to pick a perfect location, find some offshore island used for agriculture.

 

For a city, I would suggest someplace with natural barriers, or preexisting man made barriers on two sides. For example, a fast flowing river, a cliff, a concrete wall. The other sides could be barricaded with sandbags and cars and the like, while we built a legitimate wall.

[PlzPuddngPlz]

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I sleep alone, Lenin.

 

Sword, I'm no use for bait, I don't have much fat on me. :lol: They have no idea... I go for the non-drunks, I get a decent convo with them, plus I'm too skilled for the use of drugs! for you I'd reccomend cyanide, they'll want it after spending 5 mins with you.

 

 

 

You still have more than her, and muscle (although you lack that too) is just as good. Oh right, you use the classic "Does this smell like Chrloroform (over however you spell it) to you?" And trust me, I tend to know the people first.

 

She has a beer belly, and I have more muscle then you (you are underweight afterall.)Actually I just make them think they're winning me, like they do in The Game. I alsotend to know the people first too.

 

 

 

Trust me, thats not a beer belly ;). You may have muscle advantage, but I have the speed advantage. I lost. Trust me, they're only thinking of the best way to get away from you. Besides, those you know probably friend zone you. What the hell was the point of putting italics in?

 

We'll see. Hardly, on Friday there was this girl acting like I was the best thing since sliced bread, in front of her boyfriend. She's off-limits as long as they're dating though, I'm not that slack...

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Doom, you're pretty much right, you require the heat to be there for smoke, so it is the heat that is cooking, not the smoke.

 

 

 

So anyway. Shopping Malls, what do people reckon about them for defence? We get there early enough, seal it off, and move all supplies we need upstairs, and then destory the stairs and we should be set. Maybe with cars and such providing a blockade at entry points, however, the problem is escape. Anyone have ideas for that?

 

 

 

Shopping malls are (almost) always extremely crowded, and even if we did manage to clear one out, the majority of the populace would swarm there almost immediately. I thought we were sticking with the fortress in scotland idea.

[Nenga]

What we need to some type of natural formation like a mountain.

 

 

 

Mountains are hard to get up, easy to pick people off of the side, and not many animals or humans are up there.

[EGmaestro]

-.- Steam is caused by boiling water.

 

 

 

By burning a human, you're burning carbon, along with other things, so you'd get smoke.

 

Smoke and steam are quite similar. I bet they can serve the same function. Besides to have smoke you have to have fire. As long as there is fire then we can have steam.

 

 

 

no smokeand steam are not similar, theyre two very different things that dont serve the same function. and you dont have to have fire to make smoke, seeing as fires still smolder after they have gone out. and just cause theres fire doesnt mean u have steam, you need to boil water to make steam. jeez your whole post was fail.. :shame:

 

I said that if we have fire we can have steam, not we will have steam. If you're going to insult me do it properly. Whatever function smoke serves in term of power don't forget it is still hot. Food can be cooked on smoke alone, so don't just completely disregard it. What we need to do is learn the language of the zombies, breed with their women and in time, all our differences will be forgotten, oh besides the biting thing.

 

 

 

i did insult you properly, your post made no sense and i pointed that out. smoke isnt hot, its a by-product of burning something to make heat. and you cant cook stuff using only smoke, that the most ridiculous idea ive ever heard

 

Smoke itself isn't hot. Steam is. Steam IS what you're burning or heating, smoke is just a byproduct. If you think you're cooking with smoke, you're just cooking with the heat from the fire, the smoke just happens to be there. Smoke and steam are similiar in the way that co2 and air are similiar, they're both in gaseous states. That's pretty much it.

 

I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

 

 

 

no your not wrong. hm.. see life mage i told you i insulted you properly

 

 

 

What we need to some type of natural formation like a mountain.

 

 

 

Mountains are hard to get up, easy to pick people off of the side, and not many animals or humans are up there.

 

 

 

theres lots of animals in mountains, i dunno what mountains you've been on..and if the mountain is hard to get up its not going to be a good spot to stay, because your going to need a way to haul equipment and supplies up and down on a regular basis. you wont be able to just live off the land, youll need constant supplies to survive. modern buildings will work much better, you have a base already set up for you.

[Nenga]

Yes you saying "I'm right and your wrong" is suck an overwhelming argument.

 

 

 

As for a base humans will flock to any building with a large number of people. More humans equals a larger smell so eventually you'll have a meagerly guarded base surrounded by zombies. Modern building arn't designed to survive unless they are constantly upkept. On the other hand the mountains not going anywhere. As for the less animals on mountains I was comparing that to the animals that will be running down on the ground. If we're lucky maybe Bigfoot will protect us. :lol:

[EGmaestro]

well saying i was right and you were wrong is true, so yea its a perfectly logical argument.

 

 

 

anywho,

 

 

 

As for a base humans will flock to any building with a large number of people. More humans equals a larger smell so eventually you'll have a meagerly guarded base surrounded by zombies.

 

 

 

if people knew there were a large crowd of survivors in the mountains they would still try to go there, doesnt matter if is a building or not. and your talking about more and more people going to one area, then you said it would be meagerly gaurded, if theres more people going to that one area theres gonna be more people to defend it...

 

 

 

Modern building arn't designed to survive unless they are constantly upkept. On the other hand the mountains not going anywhere.

 

 

 

buildings can survive just fine without constant upkeep. and i guarantee a building made out of solid concrete/other material secured to a foundation isnt going anywhere either. plus have you ever seen the weather up in mountains? its cold. it rains alot. it also snows alot too. have fun surviving without a nice strong building for shelter. zombies aint getting through solid concrete.

 

 

 

and animals aren't a problem, we've already established that they die before they re-animate.

[Nenga]

well saying i was right and you were wrong is true, so yea its a perfectly logical argument.

 

 

 

anywho,

 

 

 

As for a base humans will flock to any building with a large number of people. More humans equals a larger smell so eventually you'll have a meagerly guarded base surrounded by zombies.

 

 

 

if people knew there were a large crowd of survivors in the mountains they would still try to go there, doesnt matter if is a building or not. and your talking about more and more people going to one area, then you said it would be meagerly gaurded, if theres more people going to that one area theres gonna be more people to defend it...

 

 

 

Modern building arn't designed to survive unless they are constantly upkept. On the other hand the mountains not going anywhere.

 

 

 

buildings can survive just fine without constant upkeep. and i guarantee a building made out of solid concrete/other material secured to a foundation isnt going anywhere either. plus have you ever seen the weather up in mountains? its cold. it rains alot. it also snows alot too. have fun surviving without a nice strong building for shelter. zombies aint getting through solid concrete.

 

 

 

and animals aren't a problem, we've already established that they die before they re-animate.

 

I was talking about animals because they can trample precious crops. As for rain, rain + snow = water which we will need lots of, which is why I said the mountains. While humans will flock to anything I doubt a zombie will be as likely to get up a mountain than in a store. You can build a pulley elevator system to get up a mountain and easily move materials/survivors up and down and zombies can stay on the ground. It's a great defence, just requires simple machines.

[EGmaestro]

I was talking about animals because they can trample precious crops.

 

build a wall. you would need to build one to keep out zombies anyway.

 

 

 

as for rain, rain + snow = water

:lol:

 

 

 

While humans will flock to anything I doubt a zombie will be as likely to get up a mountain than in a store.

 

 

 

all they would have to do to get up a moutain is walk..where as getting into a building would require breaking down a wall.

 

 

 

You can build a pulley elevator system to get up a mountain and easily move materials/survivors up and down and zombies can stay on the ground. It's a great defence, just requires simple machines.

 

 

 

um, have you noticed how big mountains are? have fun making a pulley system that goes up and down an mountain. plus mountains aren't at a 90 degree slope, they slope up gradually. it would be next to impossible to make a pulley system that could go up a mountain.

 

 

 

plus, you completly ignored the point i made about shelter. its not going to be fun trying to survive on a mouintain, especially during winter, without proper shelter, which is why a mountain would not be a good place to hide. Also,like i said before, zombies arent getting through solid concrete or steel walls.

[Nenga]

My point is man-made walls break down quicker even if it is a long time you don't know how long the zombies will last. You say building a pulley system will be hard, while that maybe survival will take hard work. It's not gonna be a walk in the park, which is good, probably crawling with zombies. I'm just thinking of long term survival instead of short term. Shelters can be built.

 

 

 

Lets just agree to disagree ok, we're not getting anywhere.

[PlzPuddngPlz]

Nobody listens. We've already established that our base is going to be in Scotland or Africa, not a mountail with a wall on/around it.

 

 

 

The "I', right and you're wrong" argument is self-defeating, because it does not resolve itself (see pg 101-102 for example), and it leads to an "yes I am- no you aren't yes I am- no you aren't" (continued) kind of argument.

[BlackDawn]

Nobody listens. We've already established that our base is going to be in Scotland or Africa, not a mountail with a wall on/around it.

 

 

 

The "I', right and you're wrong" argument is self-defeating, because it does not resolve itself (see pg 101-102 for example), and it leads to an "yes I am- no you aren't yes I am- no you aren't" (continued) kind of argument.

 

A mountain in Scotland actually. Or at least a big hill.

[Furah]

Hills, mountains and cliffs are an aweful idea. Say if is heaily raining? we then have to worry about slipping down (mountain or hill) or having the section we are on collapse and we fall to our deaths (cliff.) Also with mountains and hills we have to worry about an avalanche or mudslide. If we had the tools needed to get people out they would be in the snow/mud as well...

[baalboy5]

Nigra fall's dam? Make a fort there, when close to overun, grapple down the side and escape via boat.

 

 

 

It's a start.

[PlzPuddngPlz]

Nigra fall's dam? Make a fort there, when close to overun, grapple down the side and escape via boat.

 

 

 

It's a start.

 

 

 

By Niagra falls, I assume you mean the Canadian/American waterfall, which is located about a 1hr drive from my house. I actually didn't think of that, that's a good, and plausible, idea.

[ProtoGuy]

Nigra fall's dam? Make a fort there, when close to overun, grapple down the side and escape via boat.

 

 

 

It's a start.

 

 

 

By Niagra falls, I assume you mean the Canadian/American waterfall, which is located about a 1hr drive from my house. I actually didn't think of that, that's a good, and plausible, idea.

 

 

 

That could work, one way in, one broad way out so long as you have a roof on your boat.

 

And your boating through water and not zombies.

 

Choppy waters would be given a whole new meaning :twss:

[Seraphi]

Nigra fall's dam? Make a fort there, when close to overun, grapple down the side and escape via boat.

 

 

 

It's a start.

 

 

 

By Niagra falls, I assume you mean the Canadian/American waterfall, which is located about a 1hr drive from my house. I actually didn't think of that, that's a good, and plausible, idea.

 

 

 

That could work, one way in, one broad way out so long as you have a roof on your boat.

 

And your boating through water and not zombies.

 

Choppy waters would be given a whole new meaning :twss:

 

Zombies can move underwater.

[Assume Nothing]

I haven't watched enough zombie movies to even know much about zombies, but the first thing I could think of is to wield something with a high ranged high area covering weapon, preferrably a flamethrower, and perhaps rockets and machine guns, and run a helicoptor, one thing's for sure - Zombies can't fly. Being safe for a few hours and perhaps refuel someplace secret, fly to the antartica and live off seals. Assuming a Polar Bear doesn't eat me first =/.

[baalboy5]

Nigra fall's dam? Make a fort there, when close to overun, grapple down the side and escape via boat.

 

 

 

It's a start.

 

 

 

By Niagra falls, I assume you mean the Canadian/American waterfall, which is located about a 1hr drive from my house. I actually didn't think of that, that's a good, and plausible, idea.

 

 

 

That could work, one way in, one broad way out so long as you have a roof on your boat.

 

And your boating through water and not zombies.

 

Choppy waters would be given a whole new meaning :twss:

 

Zombies can move underwater.

 

 

 

They gonna survive walking off the side of the dam though? I know its slanted, so its possible.

[BlackDawn]

I haven't watched enough zombie movies to even know much about zombies, but the first thing I could think of is to wield something with a high ranged high area covering weapon, preferrably a flamethrower, and perhaps rockets and machine guns, and run a helicoptor, one thing's for sure - Zombies can't fly. Being safe for a few hours and perhaps refuel someplace secret, fly to the antartica and live off seals. Assuming a Polar Bear doesn't eat me first =/.

 

Congratulations on becoming a snack to the hordes of undead!

 

 

 

Seriously Alan, flamethrowers, rockets and machine guns? Bad weapons, the explosiveswouldn't do anywhere near as much damage as you would expect, flamethrowers take too long to kill with and can be dangerous to you too. Machine guns are a waste of ammo, use a single shot rifle of some sort, it only takes a single headshot. GL finding a helicopter too, and finding the supplies to live in Antarctica assuming you can make it there.

[ProtoGuy]

Nigra fall's dam? Make a fort there, when close to overun, grapple down the side and escape via boat.

 

 

 

It's a start.

 

 

 

By Niagra falls, I assume you mean the Canadian/American waterfall, which is located about a 1hr drive from my house. I actually didn't think of that, that's a good, and plausible, idea.

 

 

 

That could work, one way in, one broad way out so long as you have a roof on your boat.

 

And your boating through water and not zombies.

 

Choppy waters would be given a whole new meaning :twss:

 

Zombies can move underwater.

 

 

 

They gonna survive walking off the side of the dam though? I know its slanted, so its possible.

 

 

 

Possibly.

 

They'd have a hell of a climb though, and we'd be able to pick them off easily enough so long as there's a lookout on duty.

[baalboy5]

Nigra fall's dam? Make a fort there, when close to overun, grapple down the side and escape via boat.

 

 

 

It's a start.

 

 

 

By Niagra falls, I assume you mean the Canadian/American waterfall, which is located about a 1hr drive from my house. I actually didn't think of that, that's a good, and plausible, idea.

 

 

 

That could work, one way in, one broad way out so long as you have a roof on your boat.

 

And your boating through water and not zombies.

 

Choppy waters would be given a whole new meaning :twss:

 

Zombies can move underwater.

 

 

 

They gonna survive walking off the side of the dam though? I know its slanted, so its possible.

 

 

 

Possibly.

 

They'd have a hell of a climb though, and we'd be able to pick them off easily enough so long as there's a lookout on duty.

 

 

 

I don't think they could climb it. Its very paved, and there only one side to climb I believe, since the other side is the water.

[Seraphi]

I'm still interested in "Zombie power".

 

Just put a zombie in a giant plastic wheel with a rabbit or something caged in front of it and it will run(walk/crawl) until it turns to dust.

 

Can't see why it wouldn't work...aside from obtaining zombies that is.

[ProtoGuy]

I'm still interested in "Zombie power".

 

Just put a zombie in a giant plastic wheel with a rabbit or something caged in front of it and it will run(walk/crawl) until it turns to dust.

 

Can't see why it wouldn't work...aside from obtaining zombies that is.

 

Lol zombie hampsters. That is hilarous.

 

And I believe I can officially say that dreaded phrase;

 

Why.... that's so crazy... it just might work! :twss:

[Seraphi]

I'm still interested in "Zombie power".

 

Just put a zombie in a giant plastic wheel with a rabbit or something caged in front of it and it will run(walk/crawl) until it turns to dust.

 

Can't see why it wouldn't work...aside from obtaining zombies that is.

 

Lol zombie hampsters. That is hilarous.

 

And I believe I can officially say that dreaded phrase;

 

Why.... that's so crazy... it just might work! :twss:

 

The only problem I see with it is obtaining zombies which aren't too damaged.