SeanyTheSailor Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Ah sworddude you see i lied, i also used my own logic and movies however i assumed that should i tell you this you would make the argument that my source was unreliable, and so on and so forth, however your own honesty has compelled me to be honest God dammit Seany, STOP SHARING MY MIND" I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin. I'm not going to live there. There's no place for me there... I'm a monster.What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Well, if we use the Rage Virus as it is in the film, then it's not to feed that they kill, it's just out of pure, uncontrolable rage. The virus also release adrenaline into the bloodstream pretty much all the time, increasing resistance to pain, giving more energy and such, putting it at an almost superhuman level, though basically starve because they don't eat. Though I am interested in how they tell the infected and non-infected apart. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Rocco, against Rage Zombies, all of those weapons would work, expect the airgun. They are just normal humans, not undead, and you don't need a headshot. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyTheSailor Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Airguns - We've already decided they'd be ineffective. Saloon rifle - Ineffective at long range. Bow - Ineffective, only highly skilled archers can achieve a headshot. Khukri - Too short to be used as a bladed weapon, even if you somehow mustered up the force to pierce the skull you'd be scratched or bitten before you did. Bayonets - Ineffective, if you ran up and stabbed the zombie you'd be bitten, if you attached it to a long pole would wouldn't have enough force. Jousting Sword - Ineffective, would not pierce skull. Other knives - Ineffective, to short range. Karate - Ineffective unless you can smash a skull barehanded. I have to disagree with the bayonet and khukri, bayonets you could attach to something and stab zombies with, while not the best choice still effective. And khukri are reportedly very good for lopping off limbs(this from a weapons book i have) and the zombies rotting flesh would only make this easier, so he could lop off some arms, legs and heads I agree with everything else God dammit Seany, STOP SHARING MY MIND" I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin. I'm not going to live there. There's no place for me there... I'm a monster.What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyTheSailor Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 i also differ on the bayonet, since zombies rot away their bones become brittle and more easily pierced and as for the limb chopping, while you would have to be pretty close, I dont agree with the toxic zombie blood, though the danger of it getting into your eyes is a real danger God dammit Seany, STOP SHARING MY MIND" I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin. I'm not going to live there. There's no place for me there... I'm a monster.What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyTheSailor Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 you and i clearly differ in our anatomical view of zombies so i will agree to disagree quick question, Do you think a sniper rifle would be an effective weapon? this is assuming no head shots i dont think it would as the high power would send the bullet through the zombie, but not doing much damage God dammit Seany, STOP SHARING MY MIND" I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin. I'm not going to live there. There's no place for me there... I'm a monster.What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Most valuable source in the almost impossible event of a Romero outbreak. God, I thought we agreed he was a fool for calling Romero types the most likely, and then agreed Rage types were more possible. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Unless Rage Zombies turn out the be slightly different and have self-preservation skills. We're buggered then. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 One: A bayonet would be a very good melee weapon. With the added range of the rifle it's attached to, it would have as much range as anything other than a spear. It's also easier to use than a spear because you can put more force behind it, and it's easier to aim. A kukri or machete is also good, despite what you might think. And sword, despite whats more "realistic" here, I hate to say it, we're talking about zombies. If a disease mutates enough that we get rage zombies, who knows if we could get something similar to Romero zombies. And come on, the rage-zombie survival guide would blow. "Chapter 1: Grab some food and a couple'a bottles of water and sit in your basement for a week. The End." Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin64 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 The virus also release adrenaline into the bloodstream pretty much all the time, increasing resistance to pain. How much? Is it enough to make them shrug off, say, a stream of flaming liquid? Command the Murderous Chalices! Drink ye harpooners! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful whaleboat's bow- Death to Moby Dick!BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Basically, I think they can ignore all pain, and just focus on killing. So they probably would shrug it off. But, the bonus to Rage Zombies, is that they are still technically human, so are easier to kill. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Headshots are still best if possible. They are harder to kill than humans in that humans feel pain. If you shoot someone in the chest with a handgun, they're probably going to be down. Alive, but down. You shoot a zombie in the chest, they'll keep going till they're dead. The human brain, if shocked by something like pain can do anything from going unconscious or just shutting down all the bodies systems and dying. Rage Zombies won't do that. The best guns for rage zombies would be an auto-shotgun, with a good capacity, like an armsel striker (12 shot, 12 guage, semi-auto shotgun.), an LMG due to it's stopping power and huge bullet capacity (would be difficult to get one. But you could get a pre-ban gun in most states in the US. Wouldn't be modern though, but better than nothing, or an assault rifle decent accuracy, range, and stopping power. It's not too hard to get a pre-ban ak-47 if you know what you're doing in the US. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Headshots are still best if possible. They are harder to kill than humans in that humans feel pain. If you shoot someone in the chest with a handgun, they're probably going to be down. Alive, but down. You shoot a zombie in the chest, they'll keep going till they're dead. The human brain, if shocked by something like pain can do anything from going unconscious or just shutting down all the bodies systems and dying. Rage Zombies won't do that. The best guns for rage zombies would be an auto-shotgun, with a good capacity, like an armsel striker (12 shot, 12 guage, semi-auto shotgun.), an LMG due to it's stopping power and huge bullet capacity (would be difficult to get one. But you could get a pre-ban gun in most states in the US. Wouldn't be modern though, but better than nothing, or an assault rifle decent accuracy, range, and stopping power. It's not too hard to get a pre-ban ak-47 if you know what you're doing in the US. I think aiming for the torso/sternum is more advisable against a rage zombie; at least in any non sniping situation. 1. an accuracy error of 6 inches will still cause a serious injury 2. hitting a lung or the heart will be fatal to a creature that is stressing its body to the max; a heart shot will be just as lethal as a head shot while still allowing for aiming error. Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 For rage zombies, I assume a shotgun would be a nice enough weapon in a crowd situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin64 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Basically, I think they can ignore all pain, and just focus on killing. So they probably would shrug it off. But, the bonus to Rage Zombies, is that they are still technically human, so are easier to kill. The flamethrower would quickly burn their skin off and then liquefy their organs, so it's safe to say flamethrowers would be very effective. [bleep]ing awesome. Command the Murderous Chalices! Drink ye harpooners! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful whaleboat's bow- Death to Moby Dick!BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Are rage zombies the ones from I am Legend? Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Those weren't even zombies! They were mutants! What we call Rage Zombies are humans infected by the Rage Virus. This is from 28 Days/Weeks Later. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Just becuase someone can feel pain, doesn't mean they react to it. So, even if they are screaming and feeling like they're going to explode, they could keep running at us. Unless we burn their legs off. Then they will crawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Wonder what a zombie would do if it was only torso and head and you were standing just in front of it, zombie torture.:twisted: Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Wonder what a zombie would do if it was only torso and head and you were standing just in front of it, zombie torture.:twisted: Roll and bite your ankle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Wonder what a zombie would do if it was only torso and head and you were standing just in front of it, zombie torture.:twisted: Roll and bite your ankle. How is it supposed to roll forwards? Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku3220 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Would a rage zombie's abilities be different depending on that person's lifestyle? Surely the Rage zombie that took over the fat kid wouldn't try running at us right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gauper_kid Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Would a rage zombie's abilities be different depending on that person's lifestyle? Surely the Rage zombie that took over the fat kid wouldn't try running at us right? It would run, but it just wouldn't be much faster than walking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Would a rage zombie's abilities be different depending on that person's lifestyle? Surely the Rage zombie that took over the fat kid wouldn't try running at us right? You just made me imagine a crazy fat kid waddling towards me and trying to eat me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Would a rage zombie's abilities be different depending on that person's lifestyle? Surely the Rage zombie that took over the fat kid wouldn't try running at us right? Even the fat kid can run. However, yes, a rage zombie's ability would be limited to that of who is infected. A blind man would not be able to see, someone paralyzed from the waist down could not walk, and so on. However, the fat kid could run, and for long than he would have. Adernaline is a funny thing, it improves us as humans, beyond our normal limits, in the manner of pain resistance, how long we can run for, however, it doesn't make us faster than we can be, although it can make us slightly stronger than we normally are. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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