A solution to the PKing problem.

[maldodie]

As Jagex has stated, the reason for these recent updates was to get rid of RWT. I'm not gonna get into the 3k trade limit, because I doubt Jagex will change it, but I truely believe that my idea will both get rid of RWT and return PKing to what it was, all in a fashion easy enough to implement that Jagex might consider it. Please take the time to read my idea.

 

 

 

This update has basically ruined the PKing profession. While the bounty hunter area has been added as a PKing substitute, I'm pretty sure every former PKer will agree that this simply does not live up to what PKing once was. Solo PKers used to be able to make a decent profit; now, all three zones of the Bounty Hunter minigame are full of clans of the maximum level allowed in that particular zone, making it hard to win unless you too are with 10 or 15 friends. So what is the solution? It's quite simple, easy to implement, will get rid of RWT, and bring PKing back to Runescape.

 

 

 

My idea is this. Remove the Bounty Hunter minigame and return the wilderness back to its original size, adding all old areas that have been removed. Now, make it so that no amount of gold greater than 3k, or any NON COMBAT items, can cross the wilderness trench. Limit everyone entering the wilderness to only items a sane person would take: food, weapons, armor, arrows, and pots. There isn't a single normal person who would bring 10 million gold or a santa hat into the wilderness. Since you can't bring anything except combat items into the wilderness, this will stop real world trading, but also satisfy the PKers who want their game back.

 

 

 

There lies one problem in getting this idea to Jagex; I'm not a member. I once was, but financial issues stopped my membership. If you're a member and you like this idea, feel free to spread it around the Runescape forums! We might just make a difference! :D

[elmo_killer6]

PEople would then jsut purposefully die with things such as whips. It'd still be easy to transfer items.

[RU_Insane]

As Jagex has stated, the reason for these recent updates was to get rid of RWT. I'm not gonna get into the 3k trade limit, because I doubt Jagex will change it, but I truely believe that my idea will both get rid of RWT and return PKing to what it was, all in a fashion easy enough to implement that Jagex might consider it. Please take the time to read my idea.

 

 

 

This update has basically ruined the PKing profession. While the bounty hunter area has been added as a PKing substitute, I'm pretty sure every former PKer will agree that this simply does not live up to what PKing once was. Solo PKers used to be able to make a decent profit; now, all three zones of the Bounty Hunter minigame are full of clans of the maximum level allowed in that particular zone, making it hard to win unless you too are with 10 or 15 friends. So what is the solution? It's quite simple, easy to implement, will get rid of RWT, and bring PKing back to Runescape.

 

 

 

My idea is this. Remove the Bounty Hunter minigame and return the wilderness back to its original size, adding all old areas that have been removed. Now, make it so that no amount of gold greater than 3k, or any NON COMBAT items, can cross the wilderness trench. Limit everyone entering the wilderness to only items a sane person would take: food, weapons, armor, arrows, and pots. There isn't a single normal person who would bring 10 million gold or a santa hat into the wilderness. Since you can't bring anything except combat items into the wilderness, this will stop real world trading, but also satisfy the PKers who want their game back.

 

 

 

There lies one problem in getting this idea to Jagex; I'm not a member. I once was, but financial issues stopped my membership. If you're a member and you like this idea, feel free to spread it around the Runescape forums! We might just make a difference! :D

 

 

 

I don't know why Jagex couldn't have implemented this before. :D

[Chippy_PK]

theres many probs with that, say ur a noob, or u get lured, theres also people that would take santa's maybe they quit when they came out, come back think there worthless, takes em and dies not knowing of his massive loss.....and there would be many problems, say u wanna wear a random event clothing item, and u cant cuz its not armour, especially if u just wanna wc in wild

 

 

 

 

 

AND u could always just send in a query to jagex lol

[RU_Insane]

theres many probs with that, say ur a noob, or u get lured, theres also people that would take santa's maybe they quit when they came out, come back think there worthless, takes em and dies not knowing of his massive loss.....and there would be many problems, say u wanna wear a random event clothing item, and u cant cuz its not armour, especially if u just wanna wc in wild

 

 

 

 

 

AND u could always just send in a query to jagex lol

 

 

 

NO, you wouldn't be able to bring items worth more than 3k into the wild. READ his post.

[Silver_Corner]

Jagex did do their research on other ways to elimnate RWT. Unforunatly the only way to KILL RWT completly is what they have done.

 

 

 

If you did as you proposed, RWT would simply move to combat item/armor sales, and not for rs gp. They are like roaches. If you destory their home, they just adapt and move on to a new location, and then multiply, multiply, multiply.

 

 

 

Really theres not much more Jagex can do. It was either a bouty hunter type game, or PKing with no drops at all. I think they chose the lesser of the two evils.

 

 

 

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NO, you wouldn't be able to bring items worth more than 3k into the wild. READ his post.

 

 

 

Actually he said:

 

make it so that no amount of gold greater than 3k, or any NON COMBAT items, can cross the wilderness trench

 

 

 

Nothing about items more than 3k. If you had a 3k item limit, you wouldnt be able to bring any armor/weapons greater than iron/bronze into the wilderness.

[rukano]

Clearly you did not think that idea out clearly. The whole idea of BH was to make it so hard to trade items by dieing that RWTers would not do it because of the risk involved.

[RU_Insane]

Clearly you did not think that idea out clearly. The whole idea of BH was to make it so hard to trade items by dieing that RWTers would not do it because of the risk involved.

 

 

 

He thought it out clearly.

[warren211]

Clearly you did not think that idea out clearly. The whole idea of BH was to make it so hard to trade items by dieing that RWTers would not do it because of the risk involved.

 

 

 

He thought it out clearly.

 

 

 

The problem is, it would still be possible to drop things like whips and dragon items. Even if they're not what the customer asked for, they can still work out a system. The seller sells some rs gold for a whip or d item. he goes to the wild. his customer kills him. the customer gets the loot, and leaves. sells his items, gets his cash. will take a bit more time with the selling and buying, but where there's a will there's a way. It would open a window for the RWT business, they're not gonna sit there and examine it. they'll take advantage.

[maldodie]

Jagex did do their research on other ways to elimnate RWT. Unforunatly the only way to KILL RWT completly is what they have done.

 

 

 

If you did as you proposed, RWT would simply move to combat item/armor sales, and not for rs gp. They are like roaches. If you destory their home, they just adapt and move on to a new location, and then multiply, multiply, multiply.

 

 

 

Really theres not much more Jagex can do. It was either a bouty hunter type game, or PKing with no drops at all. I think they chose the lesser of the two evils.

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

 

NO, you wouldn't be able to bring items worth more than 3k into the wild. READ his post.

 

 

 

Actually he said:

 

make it so that no amount of gold greater than 3k, or any NON COMBAT items, can cross the wilderness trench

 

 

 

Nothing about items more than 3k. If you had a 3k item limit, you wouldnt be able to bring any armor/weapons greater than iron/bronze into the wilderness.

 

 

 

You make a good point about it just moving into weapons and armor sales.

 

 

 

Why not make it so you can't bring more than one "limit" of certain combat items into the wilderness? For example, someone selling 10 million on ebay could take in 50 noted sets of rune armor. A PKer or anyone doing legal business in there would only need one set. Why not limit each "combat item" to one allowed? (Excluding things like pots, arrows, and food.) Stackable arrows could be limited at 500 to prevent people from bringing in the XXXXX equivalent in rune arrows of 10 million.

[baalboy5]

Why couldn't they just made it that you had to pk somewith with the same levels, equipment, and pots?

 

 

 

like iron-lobbs-str pot vs iron-lobbs-str pot.

 

 

 

No unbalance and if a 100 want to rwt he would need to make his lv 3 a lv 100....

[Haitovich]

Clearly you people don't understand the idea. It's basically Bounty Hunter but with the full Wilderness instead of just the craters.

 

 

 

The same rules apply, the same limitations apply, it's just good ol' PKing instead of BHing

 

 

 

 

 

And incase you don't know you can still transfer armours and weapons by dying in BH, it's just the way killing works

[RU_Insane]

Clearly you did not think that idea out clearly. The whole idea of BH was to make it so hard to trade items by dieing that RWTers would not do it because of the risk involved.

 

 

 

He thought it out clearly.

 

 

 

The problem is, it would still be possible to drop things like whips and dragon items. Even if they're not what the customer asked for, they can still work out a system. The seller sells some rs gold for a whip or d item. he goes to the wild. his customer kills him. the customer gets the loot, and leaves. sells his items, gets his cash. will take a bit more time with the selling and buying, but where there's a will there's a way. It would open a window for the RWT business, they're not gonna sit there and examine it. they'll take advantage.

 

 

 

They'll make it so "obvious" RWT will not be possible. A Revenant can appear between the seller and customer and kill them both, upon which both of them are banned upon death, and the Revenant tele-grabs all the items and dissapears. :twisted:

[Mr_Adam]

The wildy was pretty empty, if you ask me. There were only like... 4, spots were people pked.

 

 

 

You also forgot to mention bringing items for clue scrolls into the wilderness.

[frankiani]

lets get one thing straight.. Pking is not supposed to a PROFESSION, pking is there to see who is a better fighter, GREEDY ppl made a profession of the pking, a JaGEx did too, if they had implemented that all the drop of the character disappears with him/her, everyone would be happy! Pking is not a profession. The faster you get that, the better.

[hippomchippo]

Why not make pking on ONE world, That way pkers can still pk and if a RWT comes by, he would get killed quickly, And to make sure he would die, We could keep the skulls from bounty hunter that shows the value you got on you.

[Recksash]

Well, I hate to say it but this wouldn't hurt rwt.

 

 

 

It would still be very easy to transfer money.

 

 

 

The client pays the rwt.

 

 

 

The rwt walks into the wildy as a lvl 3 with a whip/godsword/barrows item (or any other expensive item) in his inventory.

 

 

 

The rtw meets his client, who kills him.

 

 

 

=/

 

 

 

I'm sorry but you just have to accept that the wild as we knew it is gone...

 

 

 

-Reck

[Aquashock]

theres many probs with that, say ur a noob, or u get lured, theres also people that would take santa's maybe they quit when they came out, come back think there worthless, takes em and dies not knowing of his massive loss.....and there would be many problems, say u wanna wear a random event clothing item, and u cant cuz its not armour, especially if u just wanna wc in wild

 

 

 

 

 

AND u could always just send in a query to jagex lol

 

 

 

NO, you wouldn't be able to bring items worth more than 3k into the wild. READ his post.

 

 

 

You dont know how many times i have pked with a pirate hat on, non combat, just to show people how good i am.

 

 

 

Ya, its all or none as far as im concerned.

[Omali]

 

 

 

I don't know why Jagex couldn't have implemented this before. :D

 

 

 

Other than it being a flawed throwaway idea?

[Lenticular_J]

 

 

 

I don't know why Jagex couldn't have implemented this before. :D

 

 

 

Other than it being a flawed throwaway idea?

 

Agreed. Abyssal RuneCrafting, Clue Scrolls, those are just a couple things that would be made null and void. Idiotic idea, in my opinion.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

Restoring the Wilderness back to what it was would have meant tons of little loopholes and exploits (such as item purchases instead of cash).

 

 

 

Face it. The lesser of two evils has been chosen. If you were one of these PKers that were put out because it was your so-called 'profession', time to get a new gig.

[Dalcyte]

theres many probs with that, say ur a noob, or u get lured, theres also people that would take santa's maybe they quit when they came out, come back think there worthless, takes em and dies not knowing of his massive loss.....and there would be many problems, say u wanna wear a random event clothing item, and u cant cuz its not armour, especially if u just wanna wc in wild

 

 

 

 

 

AND u could always just send in a query to jagex lol

 

 

 

1. read his full post.

 

2. Random event clothing would be armor, which you can equip, making it combat.

 

4. You can wield a wc axe...

 

5. Query's are for query's. A query is a question, this is a suggestion, not a query, so it'd go in the suggestion forum of the RSOF

 

 

 

Good suggestion, and i think it could work...but as it's been said, RWT would just get combat items...

 

 

 

probably a way around that, but it's late lol, and i'm tired

[Artificial_Doom_Flavor]

Restoring the Wilderness back to what it was would have meant tons of little loopholes and exploits (such as item purchases instead of cash).

 

 

 

Face it. The lesser of two evils has been chosen. If you were one of these PKers that were put out because it was your so-called 'profession', time to get a new gig.

 

 

 

I'm really getting tired of the attitude that turning PKing into a minor, dumbed-down part of the game was something necessary to combat RWT. It wasn't. The Wilderness CAN be brought back- perhaps not exactly as it was, but with a little common sense and the proper safeguards in place, a reasonable facsimile of it can be returned.

 

 

 

And again, I already have a full list of these restrictions as well as other limiting systems suggested in my thread. Please help me support that if you are of the same mind.

[Knight_Zaros]

I dont see why Jagex is, is so worried about RWT. I mean honestly I dont see its affects. I enjoyed the game (or at least will in a week) when the game was 100% free trade, market values fluctiated, pking was evident and true to how its supposd to be, and most noteably the old duel arena where you could go from nothing to riches in a blink of an eye. I honestly think they need to return the game to the way it was before. Let people waste their real cash money to buy in game money and just focus on making the game a better expierance for those who play it right.

[doomy]

If the G.E didn't exist then this would probaly work...