Latinoking Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I know people keep saying they keep having good results from personal experiences, but people never talk about Scanning Time? Update Daily? Definition List? Fourm and Support Serivce? I just want to get some sort of data because people keep flamming McAfee and then I want to talk it over and maybe switch in the future. ^ Thats for anti-virus For spyware I use Webroot Spy Sweeper Thoughts? [hide=My Protection?][/hide] I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denismage Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 http://www.pcworld.com/article/124475-1/article.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumonde Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 First of all McAfee is the worst anti-virus there is, it lets all sorts of trash on your machine and I really feel bad for you if you paid money for it, anyways I suggest AVG free and Spybot plus AdAware. Avg will update automatically every time you start up your computer, has frequent updates and is free, there are four scanning options but I would suggest "Smart Scan" or "Complete scan" but their is also a "Quick Scan" and one other option I never use. Spybot isn't as up to date but has a very complete definitions list that will catch advertising bots that other software misses, you do have to be careful as some software you install contains advertising bots that will disable the program if you have Spybot delete them however you can just re-install the program and it will work again. AdAware is also good and is updated frequently, it seams its creaters are more knowledgeable about internet threats before other companies update theirs. But may I mainly suggest whatever you chose that you replace McAfee. May I also suggest you ignore the PC world article, who ever wrote it has obviously never used any of those anti-virus programs, McAfee and Norton are very bad and the third one on the list has been verified as spyware. Edit: Errr one more edit may I note that number 8 and 10 on the list are very good actually. Those being Avast and Avg. Stat Progress | Stat Averages | Stat Records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 But do free programs really help? I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDACTED Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 NOD32 Best Anti-Virus I ever used. Stephen Hawking is now a honorary member of the Runecrafting Guild. He was also given a free sex change from the Make-over Mage. off topic but woot im in 2 peoples siggys >.>Make that 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumonde Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 But do free programs really help? Some are better than their expensive counterparts. The makers of free programs are worried about protecting people's information, companies that create anti-virus programs are worried about making a profit off you, not if your computer is really protected. Two known NOD32 Vulnerabilities: NOD32 local privilege escalation vulnerability Not affected: > Version 2.51.26 Tested on: Winxp sp2 Risk: Average To escalate the system privilage, the option 'quarentine a file' in NOD32 can be exploited & a malicious file can be copied to the quarentine and using the 'restore to...' option it can be dropped to the directory in which the STSTEM user just had read-only permession. Note: from lower privilege, this trick can write a file to any directory in which the user has read-only access to but can't overwrite a file if the file-name already exists. Vendor Website: http://www.eset.com Vender reported: Mar 24, 2006 Patch release: Apr 4, 2006 (Version 2.51.26) http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/ ... 0/threaded NOD32 Privilege Escalation Vulnerabilities Affected Software: NOD32 for Windows NT/2000/XP/2003 2.x Two vulnerabilities have been reported in NOD32, which can be exploited by malicious, local users to gain escalated privileges. 1) The NOD32 GUI (nod32[Caution: Executable File]) runs with SYSTEM privileges when a scheduled on-demand scan is being run by the scheduler. This can be exploited to invoke cmd[Caution: Executable File] with SYSTEM privileges when a scheduled scan is running. The vulnerability has been confirmed in version 2.5 for WinNT/2k/XP/2003 (nod32krn[Caution: Executable File]/nod32[Caution: Executable File] 2.51.20.0). Other versions may also be affected. 2) The program doesn't drop its SYSTEM privileges before allowing a user to use the "Restore to..." feature to restore a quarantined file. This can be exploited to write a file to an arbitrary directory with SYSTEM privileges if a file with the given filename doesn't already exist. Solution: Update to version 2.51.26 or later. http://secunia.com/advisories/19054/ Stat Progress | Stat Averages | Stat Records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDACTED Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 :o I learn something new every day.. Thanks for the heads-up For Ultimate protection... Deepfreeze lets just say, That if you're in freeze mode. Anything that happens to your PC will be reverted when you reboot it. Stephen Hawking is now a honorary member of the Runecrafting Guild. He was also given a free sex change from the Make-over Mage. off topic but woot im in 2 peoples siggys >.>Make that 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 :o I learn something new every day.. Thanks for the heads-up For Ultimate protection... Deepfreeze lets just say, That if you're in freeze mode. Anything that happens to your PC will be reverted when you reboot it. Deep Freeze instantly protects and preserves baseline computer configurations. No matter what changes a user makes to a workstation, simply restart to eradicate all changes and reset the computer to its original state - right down to the last byte. Expensive computer assets are kept running at 100% capacity and technical support time is reduced or eliminated completely. The result is consistent trouble-free computing on a truly protected and parallel network, completely free of harmful viruses and unwanted programs. That bolded part means as how it was before? A system restore can do that can't it? I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumonde Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 :o I learn something new every day.. Thanks for the heads-up For Ultimate protection... Deepfreeze lets just say, That if you're in freeze mode. Anything that happens to your PC will be reverted when you reboot it. Deep Freeze instantly protects and preserves baseline computer configurations. No matter what changes a user makes to a workstation, simply restart to eradicate all changes and reset the computer to its original state - right down to the last byte. Expensive computer assets are kept running at 100% capacity and technical support time is reduced or eliminated completely. The result is consistent trouble-free computing on a truly protected and parallel network, completely free of harmful viruses and unwanted programs. That bolded part means as how it was before? A system restore can do that can't it? Yes but deepfreeze does it automatically every time you start your computer, not so good if you want to save things to your computer from what I've read about it. Stat Progress | Stat Averages | Stat Records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldJoe Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 First off, to that article testing AV programs is outdated, second that list is not how i would put it. Anyways, onto your questions. I used Norton before, Norton is good for new users/inexperienced users but hardly satisfying for older computer users. I am currently using Panda Internet Security 2008, and i am 100% satisfied with it. Another good thing is that if you are using several computers in your home you don't need to buy AV for all of them. Instead you can install the Panda you have onto 3 computers in your home. If you want more info about this AV tell me. ----- Scanning Time?: Scanning time (just scanned my HD to see the time) - 19minutes. Update Daily?: Yes, automatic update. It has happend it updates two times (say in 15h span). So you are always protected against the latest known issues. Of course you can set it to not update and update manually if you'd like that. Definition List?: Yes. There's is all the information you need and easy to use. You can also send "suspicious files to PandaLabs", which is a neat thing. Forum and support service? :Yeah. Fast and good replies. ----- Other cleaners/spyware removers i use is: Ad-Aware SpyBot - Search & Destroy Advanced WindowsCare V2 Personal My computer works fast and is quite safe for being an windows computer lol. J'adore aussi le sexe et les snuff moviesJe trouve que ce sont des purs moments de vieJe ne me reconnais plus dans les gensJe suis juste un cas désespérantEt comme personne ne viendra me réclamerJe terminerai comme un objet retrouvé Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 I checked the prices for Panda. WOW not cheap :shock: I might get AVG or Avast (They got a security suite sorta of) after I talk to the true owner of the pc. Thanks If any other users who use a different antivirus-spyware remover free feel to post. I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Don't go for Avast, at least, not yet. It's currently as bad as Norton is. They are making changes to their labs so it gets better, though they seem to have trouble. AVG is not that bad. Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0 is currently the best Antivirus suite there is on the market, with Panda and Bitdefender not far behind. That's what my small research gave me when I was looking for the good antivirus to buy. Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0 costs around 90 Canadian dollars. I like the way it works, scans a bit slow, but goes deep in the files, much deeper than Norton or McAfee. Kaspersky does not take a lot of energy to run as well, I can do several things (like normal) at the same time it scans. Also, a good thing (much better for more experienced users) it prompts me everytime there is something suspicious going on (I set it to do that) as well as scanning the trafic going trough the internet line, which stopped me a few times from getting spyware or so even before I got on the page. That's what I have to say about it. Also, at 90$, you can put it on 3 computers, which is nice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denismage Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Second that list is not how i would put it. You make it sound as if you are some kind of an expert with 20+ years of experience in that area. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Second that list is not how i would put it. You make it sound as if you are some kind of an expert with 20+ years of experience in that area. :lol: Well, I agree A LOT with OldJoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Putter Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I just did a quick scan of all the first page of google results regarding rankings. There is no concensus, though if I were to average them out I'd say Bitdefender and Kaspersky came near the top more often than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumonde Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I just did a quick scan of all the first page of google results regarding rankings. There is no concensus, though if I were to average them out I'd say Bitdefender and Kaspersky came near the top more often than others. Last time I heard anything about Kaspersky was that controversy of whether it sent user and information back to the company and in turn if it was in itself spyware. Stat Progress | Stat Averages | Stat Records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Yes but deepfreeze does it automatically every time you start your computer, not so good if you want to save things to your computer from what I've read about it. DeepFreeze is really annoying. I just started an internship with a local set of schools working in their IT department. We have 1,200 computers, and they all have DeepFreeze on them. Anyways whenever you want to make changes you have to "thaw" and then restart the computer. Then after you are done you have to "freeze" again and restart again. For user level stuff, such as saving a word file to the computer, there is a "thawed" partition of the hard drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDACTED Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 It's annoying and cumbersome yes, But it is some ultimate protection (if you don't want to save anything) :o I would go with what lordofrah1, He/She seems to know their stuff :) Stephen Hawking is now a honorary member of the Runecrafting Guild. He was also given a free sex change from the Make-over Mage. off topic but woot im in 2 peoples siggys >.>Make that 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbzruler72 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I only scanned through a few of the above posts, so I hope I'm not copying anyone in saying this: the more scanners you use, the higher your detection rate will be. Each company obviously doesn't use the same definitions, so multiple scanners means more detections. I have the following malware protection (in general) running:[*:1exe82wf]COMODO Firewall Pro [*:1exe82wf]Spybot Search & Distroy [*:1exe82wf]Windows Firewall (doesn't do much, but just a backup)I frequently only scan with the following programs:[*:1exe82wf]Spybot Search & Destroy [*:1exe82wf]Kaspersky Online Virus Scanner [*:1exe82wf]Pandascan (online) [*:1exe82wf]AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic [*:1exe82wf]AVG Anti-Rootkite Free [*:1exe82wf]AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5 [*:1exe82wf]ESET NOD32 Antivirus [*:1exe82wf]Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Personal [*:1exe82wf]Spyware Doctor [*:1exe82wf]CounterSpy [*:1exe82wf]Windows Defender [*:1exe82wf]Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool [*:1exe82wf]Bit Defender Antispyware [*:1exe82wf]Bit Defender Antivirus [*:1exe82wf]CWShredder [*:1exe82wf]Webroot Antispyware (Don't use anymore, I don't know why...)I know I missed some, I'll edit later. *-P.K.M-* Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamong Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I've been using Kaspersky for a while now and I've been very pleased with their latest suite (V7). It has some good features and it scans well. You will need to do some tweaking with it if you want to allow the best torrent speeds and to get Steam fully compatible, but that was fairly easy to do. [Tip.It Mod][Retired][Add your Steam name here!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 DBZ did bring up a good point. Not one has all the definitions. Which is why I though Mcafee used the money for research/resource against their free counter competition. I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I only scanned through a few of the above posts, so I hope I'm not copying anyone in saying this: the more scanners you use, the higher your detection rate will be. Each company obviously doesn't use the same definitions, so multiple scanners means more detections. I have the following malware protection (in general) running:[*:25jyh61q]COMODO Firewall Pro [*:25jyh61q]Spybot Search & Distroy [*:25jyh61q]Windows Firewall (doesn't do much, but just a backup)I frequently only scan with the following programs:[*:25jyh61q]Spybot Search & Destroy [*:25jyh61q]Kaspersky Online Virus Scanner [*:25jyh61q]Pandascan (online) [*:25jyh61q]AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic [*:25jyh61q]AVG Anti-Rootkite Free [*:25jyh61q]AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5 [*:25jyh61q]ESET NOD32 Antivirus [*:25jyh61q]Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Personal [*:25jyh61q]Spyware Doctor [*:25jyh61q]CounterSpy [*:25jyh61q]Windows Defender [*:25jyh61q]Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool [*:25jyh61q]Bit Defender Antispyware [*:25jyh61q]Bit Defender Antivirus [*:25jyh61q]CWShredder [*:25jyh61q]Webroot Antispyware (Don't use anymore, I don't know why...)I know I missed some, I'll edit later. What you are doing is very dangerous. You can scan with scanners that are online no problems but Having so many installed at the same time, there is just competition between them and fails at protecting the computer as they take other antiviruses often as viruses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumonde Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I've been using Kaspersky for a while now and I've been very pleased with their latest suite (V7). It has some good features and it scans well. You will need to do some tweaking with it if you want to allow the best torrent speeds and to get Steam fully compatible, but that was fairly easy to do. Has anyone ever mentioned to you that your sig is really creepy, almost like Micheal Jackson. I would go with what lordofrah1, He/She seems to know their stuff :) Thank you, and I'm male. DBZ did bring up a good point. Not one has all the definitions. Which is why I though Mcafee used the money for research/resource against their free counter competition. They use some of the money to update their definitions however because most users don't check the definitions and those who do stop using McAfee anyways, most of the money ends up buying somebody a nice house. I only scanned through a few of the above posts, so I hope I'm not copying anyone in saying this: the more scanners you use, the higher your detection rate will be. Each company obviously doesn't use the same definitions, so multiple scanners means more detections. I have the following malware protection (in general) running:[*:2le9xkon]COMODO Firewall Pro [*:2le9xkon]Spybot Search & Distroy [*:2le9xkon]Windows Firewall (doesn't do much, but just a backup)I frequently only scan with the following programs:[*:2le9xkon]Spybot Search & Destroy [*:2le9xkon]Kaspersky Online Virus Scanner [*:2le9xkon]Pandascan (online) [*:2le9xkon]AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic [*:2le9xkon]AVG Anti-Rootkite Free [*:2le9xkon]AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5 [*:2le9xkon]ESET NOD32 Antivirus [*:2le9xkon]Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Personal [*:2le9xkon]Spyware Doctor [*:2le9xkon]CounterSpy [*:2le9xkon]Windows Defender [*:2le9xkon]Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool [*:2le9xkon]Bit Defender Antispyware [*:2le9xkon]Bit Defender Antivirus [*:2le9xkon]CWShredder [*:2le9xkon]Webroot Antispyware (Don't use anymore, I don't know why...)I know I missed some, I'll edit later. What you are doing is very dangerous. You can scan with scanners that are online no problems but Having so many installed at the same time, there is just competition between them and fails at protecting the computer as they take other antiviruses often as viruses. Agrees, you have way to many, may I suggest you remove these or stop using them, most likely useless or conflicting with others: [*:2le9xkon]COMODO Firewall Pro [*:2le9xkon]Kaspersky Online Virus Scanner [*:2le9xkon]AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic [*:2le9xkon]ESET NOD32 Antivirus [*:2le9xkon]CounterSpy [*:2le9xkon]Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool [*:2le9xkon]Bit Defender Antispyware [*:2le9xkon]Bit Defender Antivirus [*:2le9xkon]CWShredder [*:2le9xkon]Webroot Antispyware Stat Progress | Stat Averages | Stat Records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbzruler72 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 sbrideau2000 & Lordofrah1: I can safely say, not meaning to brag, that I'm experienced in everything computer-related except for a bit of networking & some coding languages. Therefore, I would never have all those programs running. You may have understood me. I said I only have COMODO firewall, Spybot S&D, & Windows Firewall running. Everything else is on the hard drive, dormant, waiting to be run. *-P.K.M-* Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumonde Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 sbrideau2000 & Lordofrah1: I can safely say, not meaning to brag, that I'm experienced in everything computer-related except for a bit of networking & some coding languages. Therefore, I would never have all those programs running. You may have understood me. I said I only have COMODO firewall, Spybot S&D, & Windows Firewall running. Everything else is on the hard drive, dormant, waiting to be run. Three questions, Doesn't that seam a tad over obsessive? How much RAM do you have on said computer? And have you ever checked to make sure non of these programs are running back processes? Stat Progress | Stat Averages | Stat Records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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