Jagex hiding mistakes with more updates.

[TeamBloody]

Thank you to the few people on here that realize Jagex aren't a bunch of gods that can do no harm... I am simply asking them to stop updating and start fixing.

 

 

 

There are so many people got confused of your word 'updating'. Maybe just change it to 'adding new features' so they can know what you mean better. :thumbsup:

[Zierro]

When the wilderness pking was removed, Jagex once promised they will try making some better PvP games to cover the wilderness pking. The result come out theres still a huge amount of 'complainers' dont like the BH and FoG. Rather than fixing those PvP games, Jagex just choose to do other updates 'skills, quests, graphics' and not even care about those complainers.

 

 

 

Obviously, Jagex is no longer to care about PvP after the FoG. Since 9th April the FoG come out, theres no more further PvP updates or any information on the news development diary. This really disappointed me. Complainers wont stop complain until Jagex really did some meaningful updates to them.

 

 

 

Maybe it's because they found out that there is no way of pleasing those select few, unless they didn't mind allowing RWT to come back to the game?

 

 

 

I don't think you guys understand. We don't view Jagex as gods. You are just blowing things out of proportion with most of these propaganda threads, along with blowing things out of proportion by saying we worship Jagex. :roll:

 

 

 

In fact, I've agreed to numerous rants before. I even ranted myself a few times. We're not saying things are perfect, but they are pretty damn good or else Jagex wouldn't be as successful as they are.

[Bloodkay]

^ pretty much sums up the way I feel.

 

 

 

Sure the game's not perfect. How can it be? Nothing is, not Jagex, no one.

 

But coping with change is necessary to human happiness, isn't it?

 

Don't you realize that if you don't move on from your constant rants about Jagex and how they took away your one fun thing from this game and that every single thing they do you see as some act of harm, that you'll never be happy?

[Nabbagad]

And the poll just said how do you feel about farming and basically 90%+ people said it sucked and Jagex messed up big time.

 

Now I don't personally remember that poll, but taking your word from it, that would have probably been just after they released farming. (yes?)

 

And at the time a lot of people thought it was bad because you couldn't stand in one spot and click all day to get 99 in a week. It was the first unique skill where you didn't need to click for hours on end. It was a great skill, which people did eventually realise, it was a harder skill which made the game more changeling, which of course led to rants for being to hard to level.

 

Jagex did not mess up at all by releasing farming.

 

 

 

 

 

When the wilderness pking was removed, Jagex once promised they will try making some better PvP games to cover the wilderness pking. The result come out theres still a huge amount of 'complainers' dont like the BH and FoG. Rather than fixing those PvP games, Jagex just choose to do other updates 'skills, quests, graphics' and not even care about those complainers.

 

What are you talking about???

 

Jagex made a great update to BH a while ago, they listened to feedback, they made improvements.

 

 

 

I can't understand why people are so impatient and rude. Just think about it from Jagex's point of view, due to many rule breakers (RWTers) they had to remove some good elements of the game, not because they wanted to, but because they had to, to keep the game alive. They promised they would work hard to make the best replacements, they brought out some replacements, listened to feedback, made further updates (with many still to come) and still all they get in return are pathetic rants with no gratitude.

[TeamBloody]

I can't understand why people are so impatient and rude. Just think about it from Jagex's point of view, due to many rule breakers (RWTers) they had to remove some good elements of the game, not because they wanted to, but because they had to, to keep the game alive. They promised they would work hard to make the best replacements, they brought out some replacements, listened to feedback, made further updates (with many still to come) and still all they get in return are pathetic rants with no gratitude.

 

 

 

Here is my personal view on Jagex and Runescape and I wanna tell why I insist my rants. Its okay if you guys wanna blame because theres no point you guys not blaming those pathetic wilderness supporters.

 

 

 

1st, as a true wilderness supporters, I really love runescape and appreciate the work of Jagex (no Jagex --> no rs --> no wilderness) and thats why I dont leave things off but keep telling people what I am purchasing on runescape.

 

 

 

2nd, I extremely hate RWTers and bots. My hate on RWTers and bots probably much deeper then all other runescape players because the removal of wilderness affected Pkers the most.

 

 

 

3rd, I never say BH, FoG 'sucks' because its just not my cup of tea. I would tell how I feel on wilderness.

 

 

 

For me, the wilderness pking is a truely excited adventure place in runescape. Its so unique that no other games can compare with it. Wilderness is just so free that you can do anything you want. People inside the wilderness can have choice to team, fight or keep netural with each others. They can do so many things they want and theres no restriction.

 

 

 

Wilderness is also for real adventure as it is full of excitement and danger. Like once you stepped into wilderness, you will never knows whats gona happen in the next second. You may find your target to kill. You may encouter a fight with another clan. You may got killed by other people. You may looted a RunePl8 on the floor. You may got bsed by your teammates. You may encounter into a super huge clan wars. Anything may just happen in anytime and thats what adventure for me. All the players/pkers inside are real human and its always excited.

 

 

 

Its unlike god wars where you just keep fighting a computer-progarmmed monster where you doing the same thing again and again....Its unlike you doing a quest which you just purely following a guide that can ensure you can have the quest done successfully. Its unlike you spend your money to buy logs and burn them until you got enough exp to get 99 firemaking. There is no wilderness pking guide to ensure your success in wilderness. Theres just too much variations in the old wilderness which I see rs as a true adventure game.

 

 

 

Heres another thing to tell. I really know how serious that RWT is affecting Runescape. I know that RWTers are botting with those stolen credit cards. I know certain actions should be taken so that Runescape can maintain and have a flourish future. But same questions, at what cost?? Are wilderness pkers really necessary to be sacrificed to save the future of runescape??

 

 

 

I dont mean Jagex ignore people's opinion. (I cant disprove this because Jagex can just listen what they want to listen) But certainly, Jagex ignores those wilderness supporters' opinion and just do thing in the ways they want. Some wilderness supporters (okay.. I am one of them) also say they dont care of 'kill and loot' but just wanna keep the excitement. But Jagex dont care any but just do things in their own way. They just simplely did a little 'fix' on BH and telling the universal people: "See!! We listen to people rants and we fixed the problems. If you guys do any further rants then you will be regarded as unreasonable!!'' But to be honest, the BH update isnt much meaningful to most ranters but just a kind of techique Jagex made to Shut their mouths up.

 

 

 

Of caz, Jagex would keep updating and fixing problems by itself. But somehow they should slow down adding new features and take more serious of fixing the wilderness issues.

[fat_klutz]

Yes the poll was like a week after farming was released, should it matter?? The bottom line is that Jagex took the information and hid it from us.

 

 

 

Actually I think there are ways to please that "select" few. BH needs to have one person hunting you and ONLY one person. Furthermore rouge hunters shouid not be able to attack you unless you aren't in combat. Next thing is they should make you stay in the crater for a mandatory 5 minutes after entering. Then they should force you to bring a certain amount of items proportional to combat level to stop all the 1 itemers. They should change it so after you get a kill you have 10 (example number) seconds of invulnerability to prevent pile jumpers. The last thing they should do is change ALL combat so if you are attacking something you are in combat even if is not attacking you.

[Omali]

Yes the poll was like a week after farming was released, should it matter?? The bottom line is that Jagex took the information and hid it from us.

 

 

 

Absolutely it should matter. The Runescape community, as a whole, has a nasty habit of hating everything new that comes out, until several months later when they've all had a chance to try it out. I'll bet you my left foot that most of the people who said they didn't like Farming had not even tried it yet, or were simply trolling as many Runescaper's do.

[Bloodkay]

Yes the poll was like a week after farming was released, should it matter?? The bottom line is that Jagex took the information and hid it from us.

 

 

 

Absolutely it should matter. The Runescape community, as a whole, has a nasty habit of hating everything new that comes out, until several months later when they've all had a chance to try it out. I'll bet you my left foot that most of the people who said they didn't like Farming had not even tried it yet, or were simply trolling as many Runescaper's do.

 

 

 

Adding on; if the poll were re-cast today, I'm fairly certain that many, many players would indeed say farming is at least "okay", because it really is a big money-maker on the right crops.

[fat_klutz]

Yes the poll was like a week after farming was released, should it matter?? The bottom line is that Jagex took the information and hid it from us.

 

 

 

Absolutely it should matter. The Runescape community, as a whole, has a nasty habit of hating everything new that comes out, until several months later when they've all had a chance to try it out. I'll bet you my left foot that most of the people who said they didn't like Farming had not even tried it yet, or were simply trolling as many Runescaper's do.

 

 

 

Adding on; if the poll were re-cast today, I'm fairly certain that many, many players would indeed say farming is at least "okay", because it really is a big money-maker on the right crops.

 

 

 

So how come they are still hiding it from us??

 

 

 

Besides, Jagex is obviously doing something wrong if that many people dislike every update Jagex does.

[Ravenkana]

Well, a few days ago they launched their new beta but still haven't fixed the GE, released the borrowing update, or trimmed back random events. Does this seem like an honest company with good priorities?

[Harakiri]

Thank you to the few people on here that realize Jagex aren't a bunch of gods that can do no harm... I am simply asking them to stop updating and start fixing.

 

 

 

They are starting to fix things....

 

8-)

 

Look at the new graphics, much better than the other ones...

[Bloodkay]

 

So how come they are still hiding it from us??

 

 

 

Besides, Jagex is obviously doing something wrong if that many people dislike every update Jagex does.

 

 

 

They chose to hide it from us, so what? Does it really bother you that much that they decided to take down the poll? What the hell does that do to you, does it hurt you in any way by not knowing every single little thing?

 

 

 

And of course Jagex does something wrong with every update. Wanna know why? Because no update caters to every single player out there. Even if there's only one player who disagrees with the update, it's considered "something wrong" by that person, isn't it? What really bothers many people are the players who hate Jagex, hate every single update they've done in a while, and hate the game now too yet they still keep playing.

[Omali]

So how come they are still hiding it from us??

 

 

 

Besides, Jagex is obviously doing something wrong if that many people dislike every update Jagex does.

 

 

 

Or because a large portion of the Runescape forums that vocalize their opinions are whiny crybabies who throw tantrums every time Jagex as much as fixes a bug in the game. You'll find players like that in every MMO that's ever existed, does that mean that it's never been done right? Urrr, no.

 

 

 

Only a tiny amount of players dislike every update jagex does, and the fact that they're still here after all this time shows that they don't really hate it as much as they claim, otherwise they would've quit and gotten a life a long long time ago.

 

 

 

As for the poll: Get over it. If that's all you've got, you're grasping for straws.

[Nabbagad]

Well, a few days ago they launched their new beta but still haven't fixed the GE, released the borrowing update, or trimmed back random events. Does this seem like an honest company with good priorities?

 

So what are you suggesting? Are you saying that the separate group of workers who spent months updating the graphics should just wait for the other group of workers to fix a GE bug?

 

 

 

There isn't one team of workers who can only work on one project at a time. The graphics team were finished with their update so they released it.

 

 

 

It doesn't have anything to do with priorities (in your example).

[fat_klutz]

 

So how come they are still hiding it from us??

 

 

 

Besides, Jagex is obviously doing something wrong if that many people dislike every update Jagex does.

 

 

 

They chose to hide it from us, so what? Does it really bother you that much that they decided to take down the poll? What the hell does that do to you, does it hurt you in any way by not knowing every single little thing?

 

 

 

And of course Jagex does something wrong with every update. Wanna know why? Because no update caters to every single player out there. Even if there's only one player who disagrees with the update, it's considered "something wrong" by that person, isn't it? What really bothers many people are the players who hate Jagex, hate every single update they've done in a while, and hate the game now too yet they still keep playing.

 

 

 

You are beyond wrong. This entire thread is about Jagex hiding things and you claiming they don't. When I provide evidence your counter is "Who cares???". That doesn't make any sense.

 

 

 

No [bleep] every update doesn't cater to every player. It really shouldn't matter though if they are good updates. I will post the last month of complete updates to prove my point (Mays because June was missing two weeks).

 

 

 

• [*:tiqnyh14]Behind the Scenes- Nothing noteworthy really....[*:tiqnyh14]New Forum-Reporting Academy- Not a game update but basically a waste of time to let people know, it isn't like Jagex even reads reports so why does it matter[*:tiqnyh14]Summoning Poll Results- I believe Phoenix won and we don't know much else except Jagex will probably botch what could be a great summon and just make it mediocre[*:tiqnyh14]Law Tally Changes- They changed the reward for the "SO HARD" troll stronghold quest. I complained about this because you could range every monster needed to beat that quest. All you needed was some wind strikes and food for the thrower trolls. SO HARD[*:tiqnyh14]Perils Of Ice Mountain- Great, a quest that lets us smith our own pic axes. Except with the current economy not only do you waste 10 minutes getting the bars and stuff, you waste like 10k depending on which metal you are making.
   
   
   
  Also included visual changes ---->> Who cares
   
  Quick Option for Dark Mage in Abby---->> Thats nice and I don't think anybody whined about it
   
  Option to Trade is summoning pouches for shards---->> That was nice and only the stupid people who alched all their pouches whined
   
  Bone Grinder made easy---->> Who uses that anyway with guilded altar??[*:tiqnyh14]An Image of the Future- Got us excited with new graphics, no complaints[*:tiqnyh14]Party Pete and Tzharr Changes- Visual changes. I don't know how many times they have to change party petes dam look. After awhile it just becomes stupid.
   
   
   
  BTW, that is two graphic updates this month, so much for the graphics team working hard on getting Beta and its bugs worked out!
   
   
   
  Also made it so you can enter buildings with roofs easier in high detail which is actually a great update. I always got annoyed by that.[*:tiqnyh14]TokTz-Ket-Dill- Second quest of the month, I don't really know anything about it but it looks like it gave some nice exp. If mining area was useful even better, don't think many people whined about this except maybe requirements but once again those are noobs and can be ignored.[*:tiqnyh14]Players Gallery- I enjoy looking at this, too bad they didn't post my 8 page letter telling them what they do wrong.[*:tiqnyh14]An image of the Not-to distant future- Basically propaganda, waste more time making those announcements and waste players time reading. The first announcement was enough.[*:tiqnyh14]Level up messages- Hmmm slightly torn, I hate seeing everything made so easy for new players but at the same time it is nice. Especially how it doesn't cancel in combat. The sign posts are stupid and I honestly think a waste of Jagex's time to code. I mean, who honestly cares about "How many goblins were killed" or other garbage.
   
   
   
  Tears of Guthix now lets you know better when to return. I never played this so I don't know how accurate it was before but I don't see a problem with this.[*:tiqnyh14]Quick Chat- Lucky us!!! Now people with typing speeds of.... 10 can say there messages. We may actually get some punctuation in RS too!!!! Good update for muted players and those "10 year olds" that can now play because they are in a sheltered enviroment. For the other 99% of Runescape I have a feeling that this was a big waste of time and will be used in non productive stupid ways and mostly to spam.
   
   
   
  Hotkeys were changed too, no biggy...[*:tiqnyh14]Development Diary- Hurrah!! Pretty cool, got me excited.[*:tiqnyh14]Postbag from the hedge- Sometimes fun to read and contains some nice spoilers but instead of having some guy write stupid Jagex humor for two hours I would have rather had him walking around the beta testing for bugs.... But that is me

 

 

 

So those were the updates for the month. I count about 5 actual in game updates and then a plethora of crap and propaganda spewed out by Jagex.

 

 

 

So be honest when you answer, who exactly do these updates cater too?

 

 

 

 

no update caters to every single player out there.

 

 

 

 

Does the ability to make pic axes for 10x the price it takes to buy cater to ANYBODY?? Quick Chat caters to muted players (who believe me, I sympathize) but what about 99% of Runescape who isn't muted?? Oh great, we can now tell the lvl 30's in castlewars to not take the flag and drop it with quick chat instead. Hurrah!

[BloodArgon]

You are beyond wrong. This entire thread is about Jagex hiding things and you claiming they don't. When I provide evidence your counter is "Who cares???". That doesn't make any sense.

 

 

 

Also included visual changes ---->> Who cares

 

I mean, who honestly cares about "How many goblins were killed" or other garbage.

 

 

 

Way to contradict. You say hes a moron for saying 'who cares' and your making an [wagon] of yourself by saying it twice in your own response? Nice.

 

 

 

I also love how you speak for everyone.

 

Does the ability to make pic axes for 10x the price it takes to buy cater to ANYBODY??

 

Did you go out and interview every last member about their thoughts on the pickaxes? Nope, I didnt think so .

 

 

 

For the other 99% of Runescape I have a feeling that this was a big waste of time and will be used in non productive stupid ways and mostly to spam.

 

Once again, did you go out and ask them all if it was good or not?

 

 

 

Bone Grinder made easy---->> Who uses that anyway with guilded altar??

 

People stretched on cash and the 50% will make the difference between getting the level and not getting it.

 

 

 

You need to shut up if your going to contradict yourself in the same post, and then thinking you know what people are saying or thinking, when you really dont.

[Bloodkay]

Jesus Fat, I didn't think that saying something about one little hidden poll would make you flip out on me so much.

 

 

 

So um, what was the point of you going on about all the updates and how you feel about them? I mean, you're just proving my point that not every update caters to everyone, which for some reason you also said was true, but seemed angry about it all the same =\

 

 

 

Seriously man, you're confusing me. Do you even know what you're talking about anymore?

[xcentrik]

I think the autor its right...

[fat_klutz]

Jesus Fat, I didn't think that saying something about one little hidden poll would make you flip out on me so much.

 

 

 

So um, what was the point of you going on about all the updates and how you feel about them? I mean, you're just proving my point that not every update caters to everyone, which for some reason you also said was true, but seemed angry about it all the same =\

 

 

 

Seriously man, you're confusing me. Do you even know what you're talking about anymore?

 

 

 

Yes I do know what I am talking about. You make it sound like people dislike updates because they are not directed towards them. I was just pointing out the updates in general are crap and even the people they are directed to don't like them for the most part.

 

 

 

[hide=]

You are beyond wrong. This entire thread is about Jagex hiding things and you claiming they don't. When I provide evidence your counter is "Who cares???". That doesn't make any sense.

 

 

 

Also included visual changes ---->> Who cares

 

I mean, who honestly cares about "How many goblins were killed" or other garbage.

 

 

 

Way to contradict. You say hes a moron for saying 'who cares' and your making an [wagon] of yourself by saying it twice in your own response? Nice.

 

 

 

I also love how you speak for everyone.

 

Does the ability to make pic axes for 10x the price it takes to buy cater to ANYBODY??

 

Did you go out and interview every last member about their thoughts on the pickaxes? Nope, I didnt think so .

 

 

 

For the other 99% of Runescape I have a feeling that this was a big waste of time and will be used in non productive stupid ways and mostly to spam.

 

Once again, did you go out and ask them all if it was good or not?

 

 

 

Bone Grinder made easy---->> Who uses that anyway with guilded altar??

 

People stretched on cash and the 50% will make the difference between getting the level and not getting it.

 

 

 

You need to shut up if your going to contradict yourself in the same post, and then thinking you know what people are saying or thinking, when you really dont.

[/hide]

 

 

 

Fine, I just assumed that nobody would read a post that long.

 

 

 

Visual Changes- Great, Jagex updates Cats. To bad it requires an easier quest to go and get dogs than it does to get a cat. Furthermore, cats never looked terrible. Why does Jagex waste their time making cats more visually appealing when most people do not use them or even think they look bad??

 

 

 

Pick axes- Oh really?? You disagree and think being able to make pick axes is useful?? Highest price for a pick axe is 19k. Rune bars are 13k. Nice job, you just lost 7k for basically no exp.

 

 

 

And sure, you could argue for a low level player that the ability to make a pick axe could be useful but.... addy pick axes (semi useful) are lvl 75. Now low level player is going to have that level. Furthermore, they would need to be members. Members can go pick flax for 20 minutes and buy a rune pick axe.

 

 

 

You are just arguing for the sake of arguing now. If you are actually sitting in front of your computer saying "Gosh darnit, hes so wrong!!! I am making a fortune making pick axes!!!" than you are just an idiot.

 

 

 

Quick Chat- How about less Ad Hominem and actually tell me whether you disagree with what I said. And OK (Major sarcasm Ok), maybe 99% of the players don't think its useless, EXCUSE ME (more sarcasm) for thinking that you would understand that I was just pointing out the majority of players give less the a dam about this.

 

 

 

Bone Grinder- You can walk up to random players and ask them to use their altar. One will say yes.

 

 

 

And I looked back at the post, I was wrong. They made it easier to grind silver bars into silver dust. My fault. But in fact, I am happy I was wrong because this reinforces my point even more. The only purpose for silver dust is for a "Guthix Balance Potion" (I think) and this is only used in one quest I believe.

 

 

 

WOW That is really being in touch with the players. I mean, the Rants Forum was filled with complaints about silver bar grinding going to slow.

 

 

 

Anything else you want me to clarify on??

 

 

 

How about you stop picking apart my posts and respond to the entire thing. Great, you find a couple little things that MIGHT be wrong if you take them incredibly literally but my gosh, I'd almost rather deal with RSOF because at least you know your going to get un-intelligent replys, I guess coming here and expecting the opposite was stupid of me.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

Yes I do know what I am talking about. You make it sound like people dislike updates because they are not directed towards them. I was just pointing out the updates in general are crap and even the people they are directed to don't like them for the most part.

 

 

 

Actually, people dislike things because they aren't directed at them. Why do you think Members gets all hot 'n bothered whenever Freeplayers get an update? Also, many people didn't believe that Farming was a good skill, so they voted (overwhelmingly) against it, and the poll was never to be seen again.

 

 

 

Visual Changes- Great, Jagex updates Cats. To bad it requires an easier quest to go and get dogs than it does to get a cat. Furthermore, cats never looked terrible. Why does Jagex waste their time making cats more visually appealing when most people do not use them or even think they look bad??

 

 

 

So what's wrong with sprucing up the graphics every now and then? It's not like the entire company's wasting their time, either -- there IS a section dedicated to just Graphics, you know...

 

 

 

Besides, looking at the same avatar of anything gets boring after a while. Good to change things up a bit after a few years.

 

 

 

Pick axes- Oh really?? You disagree and think being able to make pick axes is useful?? Highest price for a pick axe is 19k. Rune bars are 13k. Nice job, you just lost 7k for basically no exp.

 

 

 

We can make hatchets, so why shouldn't we be able to make pickaxes? Besides that, you prove that you truly know nothing of Smithing -- no matter what you use to level in that skill, you'll lose either experience or money, period.

 

 

 

Quick Chat- ... And OK (Major sarcasm Ok), maybe 99% of the players don't think its useless, EXCUSE ME (more sarcasm) for thinking that you would understand that I was just pointing out the majority of players give less the a dam about this.

 

 

 

I don't care about Quick Chat, but it not useless, and it sure isn't something to get all hot 'n bothered over.

 

 

 

Bone Grinder- You can walk up to random players and ask them to use their altar. One will say yes.

 

 

 

It's not hard to find an altar nowadays, but many people still want 400% experience instead of 350%. Nothing wrong with their way of leveling, I presume...

 

 

 

The only purpose for silver dust is for a "Guthix Balance Potion" (I think) and this is only used in one quest I believe.

 

 

 

Minigame, and said minigame still has many applicable uses today. How else are you going to get nails from a Nail Beast?

 

 

 

How about you stop picking apart my posts and respond to the entire thing. Great, you find a couple little things that MIGHT be wrong if you take them incredibly literally but my gosh, I'd almost rather deal with RSOF because at least you know your going to get un-intelligent replys, I guess coming here and expecting the opposite was stupid of me.

 

 

 

Theory: Garbage in, garbage out.

[fat_klutz]

I'm done arguing. Not because "LAWL hes a noob who can't defend his arguement" but just because this is a waste of my time. Maybe in a couple years of more "we promise this" and "we promise that" only to be let down you will understand why people like me feel this way.

[eatrunearrow]

I'm done arguing. Not because "LAWL hes a noob who can't defend his arguement" but just because this is a waste of my time. Maybe in a couple years of more "we promise this" and "we promise that" only to be let down you will understand why people like me feel this way.

 

 

 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Bloodkay]

Ugh, one more Jagex hater gone, finally. Maybe we'll get some peace around the Rants section ;) NOT!

 

 

 

Not every update caters to every player. Fat Klutz just proved it by bashing almost every update for the game that had come out in the last little while, proving that they weren't catered towards him because he finds them useless and therefor unnecessary.

 

 

 

After about two pages of off-topic-ness...

 

 

 

Anyone else thinks that Jagex released Summoning as a cover up for the removal of balanced trades? Cause you're dead wrong, I'd just like to throw that in there ;)

[BloodArgon]

I'm done arguing. Not because "LAWL hes a noob who can't defend his arguement" but just because this is a waste of my time. Maybe in a couple years of more "we promise this" and "we promise that" only to be let down you will understand why people like me feel this way.

 

 

 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

 

 

You can say it the same as him, but, your still the idiot who keeps making stupid posts...

[Omali]

I'm done arguing. Not because "LAWL hes a noob who can't defend his arguement" but just because this is a waste of my time. Maybe in a couple years of more "we promise this" and "we promise that" only to be let down you will understand why people like me feel this way.

 

 

 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

 

 

I could've guessed that, considering the nature of your other posts.