For God's sake, stop arguing over whether they're metal or not! It's absolutely ridiculous! They may be -core, they may be nu-, the may be metal, but it doesn't matter. If the music sounds good, it's good. Get off the effing bandwagon. Just because it gets stereotyped under a certain genre doesn't mean it automatically sucks. I bet half of the people who are bashing on this haven't even heard the songs. They probably just jumped on the bandwagon.

 

 

 

Now. I love these two songs. The solos are killer(All Hope Is Gone's 5 string arpreggio is awesome), and I am super excited about this. 9 more days.

For God's sake, stop arguing over whether they're metal or not! It's absolutely ridiculous! They may be -core, they may be nu-, the may be metal, but it doesn't matter. If the music sounds good, it's good. Get off the effing bandwagon. Just because it gets stereotyped under a certain genre doesn't mean it automatically sucks. I bet half of the people who are bashing on this haven't even heard the songs. They probably just jumped on the bandwagon.

 

 

 

Now. I love these two songs. The solos are killer(All Hope Is Gone's 5 string arpreggio is awesome), and I am super excited about this. 9 more days.

 

 

 

I'm just shattering the glass...they're not metal and I have listened to new songs (it was aural torture), and they suck. Simple as that. You voice your opinion, I'll voice mine. If you don't like it, then I invite you to [bleep] more. It's funny.

 

 

 

And That's funny SilverSword. :-)

they're not metal and I have listened to new songs (it was aural torture), and they suck.

 

I don't really care if you don't like them, I'm not a huge fan either. But to say that they're not metal is just ridiculous. What exactly do you base your claim on? There's only three explanations I can think of:

 

1. You don't know anything about metal. - I'm gonna say that this isn't the correct explanation, based on you being.. Adio.

 

2. You don't deem fusion sub-genres of metal as true metal. - If this is the case, then what else? Sludge isn't metal? Post-Metal isn't metal?

 

3. You don't like the music, and so you don't deem it worthy of being associated with one of your favourite genres. - If this is the case, grow the [bleep] up.

they're not metal and I have listened to new songs (it was aural torture), and they suck.

 

I don't really care if you don't like them, I'm not a huge fan either. But to say that they're not metal is just ridiculous. What exactly do you base your claim on? There's only three explanations I can think of:

 

1. You don't know anything about metal. - I'm gonna say that this isn't the correct explanation, based on you being.. Adio.

 

2. You don't deem fusion sub-genres of metal as true metal. - If this is the case, then what else? Sludge isn't metal? Post-Metal isn't metal?

 

3. You don't like the music, and so you don't deem it worthy of being associated with one of your favourite genres. - If this is the case, grow the [bleep] up.

 

 

 

1. Nope.

 

2. They sound like deathcore...maybe even deathcore lite mixed with some really bad in flamesisms and other garbage. Not metal.

 

3. There's worse bands in metal. Like I stated before 95%+ of metal is mostly trash. If they enter that 95% in the future, then so be it, but at this moment, nope, not metal.

 

 

 

That answer your question?

 

2. They sound like deathcore...maybe even deathcore lite mixed with some really bad in flamesisms and other garbage. Not metal.

 

3. There's worse bands in metal. Like I stated before 95%+ of metal is mostly trash. If they enter that 95% in the future, then so be it, but at this moment, nope, not metal.

 

 

Gosh, I wish my knowledge and taste in the Metal genre was SO refined like yours is.

 

2. They sound like deathcore...maybe even deathcore lite mixed with some really bad in flamesisms and other garbage. Not metal.

 

3. There's worse bands in metal. Like I stated before 95%+ of metal is mostly trash. If they enter that 95% in the future, then so be it, but at this moment, nope, not metal.

 

 

Gosh, I wish my knowledge and taste in the Metal genre was SO refined like yours is.

 

 

 

It's okay to be envious. Not everyone can be the best. There can only be one, and I was lucky enough to be bestowed with this knowledge. Perhaps one day...nah, who am I kidding? Your little game failed. I am the best and always will be.

2. They sound like deathcore...maybe even deathcore lite mixed with some really bad in flamesisms and other garbage. Not metal.

 

I'd say that for a band to technically be deathcore the vocalist would have to employ pig squeels or guttural growls, whereas the vocalist in SlipKnot shouts more than anything else. However, they could quite easily fit on the "lighter" end of the deathcore spectrum. Either way, I still consider deathcore to be metal. That's perhaps more a point of opinion than anything else.

2. They sound like deathcore...maybe even deathcore lite mixed with some really bad in flamesisms and other garbage. Not metal.

 

I'd say that for a band to technically be deathcore the vocalist would have to employ pig squeels or guttural growls, whereas the vocalist in SlipKnot shouts more than anything else. However, they could quite easily fit on the "lighter" end of the deathcore spectrum. Either way, I still consider deathcore to be metal. That's perhaps more a point of opinion than anything else.

 

 

 

Sounds fair to me. Always did remind me of In Flames if they tried deathcore. Slipknot always seemed fake to me though. Sort of like they're not being honest with themselves. What do I care though? Rest of my posts will be trolling people in this topic anyways.

 

 

 

The only -core I consider metal is grindcore, but that's probably because where I live.

2. They sound like deathcore...maybe even deathcore lite mixed with some really bad in flamesisms and other garbage. Not metal.

 

I'd say that for a band to technically be deathcore the vocalist would have to employ pig squeels or guttural growls, whereas the vocalist in SlipKnot shouts more than anything else. However, they could quite easily fit on the "lighter" end of the deathcore spectrum. Either way, I still consider deathcore to be metal. That's perhaps more a point of opinion than anything else.

 

 

 

Sounds fair to me. Always did remind me of In Flames if they tried deathcore. Slipknot always seemed fake to me though. Sort of like they're not being honest with themselves. What do I care though? Rest of my posts will be trolling people in this topic anyways.

 

 

 

The only -core I consider metal is grindcore, but that's probably because where I live.

 

Wow. Not even Nintendocore? Aren't you the little elitist. :)

 

And just wondering, what do you define metal as? Or, why don't you consider the "-core"s to be metal? I'm not going to bother getting in a debate with you about it, because I already have my mind pretty well made up on the subject, but I'd be interested to know your reasoning.

Mmmm...elitist is the wrong word, but nevermind that.

 

 

 

As for the 'cores'...most of their metal elements are too diluted or nonexistent. The only -core that really retains it is death-metalish grindcore (Terrorizer).

And That's funny SilverSword. :-)

I aim to please.

I don't really care if they're metal or not. If I enjoy listening to them I'm going to listen to them. Simple as that.

 

 

 

Adio, honestly, what are you trying to prove? I want you, in exact words, explain to me what metal is. Go ahead, I have all day (actually, not really, so make it quick).

I don't really care if they're metal or not. If I enjoy listening to them I'm going to listen to them. Simple as that.

 

 

 

Adio, honestly, what are you trying to prove? I want you, in exact words, explain to me what metal is. Go ahead, I have all day (actually, not really, so make it quick).

 

 

 

good enough.

 

 

 

and nothing, just stating they're not metal. what are you trying to prove?

 

 

 

oh and metal is just a more subtle style of rock. short enough for you? :-)

I don't really care if they're metal or not. If I enjoy listening to them I'm going to listen to them. Simple as that.

 

 

 

Adio, honestly, what are you trying to prove? I want you, in exact words, explain to me what metal is. Go ahead, I have all day (actually, not really, so make it quick).

 

 

 

good enough.

 

 

 

and nothing, just stating they're not metal. what are you trying to prove?

 

 

 

oh and metal is just a more subtle style of rock. short enough for you? :-)

 

 

 

Nothing really. I just wanted to here your side of the argument.

 

 

 

Yeah, that's decent enough. Just basically what it is.

i like psychosocial's chorus

^I do too. Nice clean singing vocals. I love Corey Taylor's voice.

Just listened to that youtube that was posted, ugh.

 

 

 

Not going to do that again, so bad.

I love the new album! I downloaded it :D

 

 

 

Its my favorite. :twss:

Bands shouldn't have to wear masks.

Bands shouldn't have to wear masks.

 

Who said they had to?

Bands shouldn't have to wear masks.

 

 

 

Why not? It's to show who they are. You don't really see others doing that except Hollywood Undead and The Sound Of Animals Fighting (though that's not really a band, more like a group), and they all came AFTER Slipknot.

Bands shouldn't have to wear masks.

 

 

 

Why not? It's to show who they are. You don't really see others doing that except Hollywood Undead and The Sound Of Animals Fighting (though that's not really a band, more like a group), and they all came AFTER Slipknot.

 

 

 

You forgot about Kiss. One of the most influential bands to ever play.

I love the new album! I downloaded it :D

 

 

 

It's my favorite. :twss:

 

 

 

I disagree. I think this album is between mediocre and rubbish. I think there was maybe two songs that really stood out.

 

Not to put you down or anything...I just needed someone to quote. :P

 

 

 

Shame, I had high hopes for this album.

Bands shouldn't have to wear masks.

 

 

 

Why not? It's to show who they are. You don't really see others doing that except Hollywood Undead and The Sound Of Animals Fighting (though that's not really a band, more like a group), and they all came AFTER Slipknot.

 

 

 

You forgot about Kiss. One of the most influential bands to ever play.

 

That was makeup. And if you're going to mention them, you may as well mention pretty much every Black metal band ever as well.

...you may as well mention pretty much every Black metal band ever as well.