Kenshinjapan Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Nice toy's but will they play Crisis ;) Seriously though this is a good idea if properly administered. Simply dropping off a laptop to a child won't do him/her a bit of good. Sending them to schools seems like the best idea... or for that matter developing super cheap desktops for schools... Still they are supposed to be reliable in the conditions that these people live. I don't get why people are complaining that this company is giving computers instead of food, medicine, or money to schools. This is a computer company after all, not a food company, nor a medical company. You wouldnt ask a doctor to fix your car, or a mechanic to remove your appendix. In the end they are here to make money, even if they are a charitable organization. By increasing their revenue they can invest more in production, which means more, and cheaper laptops for the intended recipients. What's more who's dictating that they have to be a charity? Creative Capitalism promoted by Bill Gates (one of the worlds most charitable men) is all about bringing the benefits of Capitalism to markets (and peoples) that are otherwise ignored, such as the third world. What if you're fused to a car through a wreck or your appendix is stuck in your engine?! :uhh: . Still, I wasn't sure a year ago and I'm still not sure that these computers are really that reliable. YOU! ATTEND TET EVENTS! CLICK HERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill_Thomas9 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 All I have to say is.... Isn't it a better idea to vaccinate like 50 people for malaria than to buy 1 laptop? Couldn't that money be used for other higher priority causes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisc6 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Its like give a man a fish he will eat it, give a mana fishing rod he will fish for food for the rest of his life. I think that the foundations who dispense aid have lost touch of this the way there distributing aid in a short term gain long term loss, rather than setting up infrastructure and giving people tools to survive. I do think that a cheap as possible laptop is a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan18 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Its like give a man a fish he will eat it, give a mana fishing rod he will fish for food for the rest of his life. I think that the foundations who dispense aid have lost touch of this the way there distributing aid in a short term gain long term loss, rather than setting up infrastructure and giving people tools to survive. I do think that a cheap as possible laptop is a good idea I agree. You can dish out all the food and medicine you want, but in the end, if those recipients aren't given a way to also contribute to society, all that money and medicine is wasted when they die anyways. the laptops could potentially be a chance to turn one someone from nothing to something, and in turn do the same for others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Pirates Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 $100 laptops? Must be Acers. Anyway, I think it's good that we're helping out the poor people but, I don't see a reason to help them though, it's not like they've done anything for us. BR BR BR? HUEHUEHEUEHUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygimantas Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 This kinda reminds when the pope sent crates and crates of BIBLES to Ethiopia. He probably meant well, but there are so many more things they need first. LMAO bibles???!!!! :XD: 99 Hunter - November 1st, 200899 Cooking -July 22nd, 200999 Firemaking - July 29th, 201099 Fletching - December 30th, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygimantas Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 $100 laptops? Must be Acers. Anyway, I think it's good that we're helping out the poor people but, I don't see a reason to help them though, it's not like they've done anything for us. Why don't we just kill them all they're just a waste of money anyway ( sarcasm) :roll: 99 Hunter - November 1st, 200899 Cooking -July 22nd, 200999 Firemaking - July 29th, 201099 Fletching - December 30th, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 To whom are we talking about here? Giving it to the jungle villages of Africa or a semi-Westernized country? If its the former, where the hell are they gonna get eletricity? If you had read the topic you would know it doesn't get plugged in. Either solar powered or a manual crank. Manual cranking? That's a first. :lol: "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill_Thomas9 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I still think this is a stupid idea. As said before, Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he will eat for a lifetime. Due to global warming, parts of the world (the parts of africa we're talking about) can no longer provide themselves with food. It is not their fault, but they deal with the consequences. Just as polar bears suffer due to melting ice caps, the people in africa suffer due to rising temperatures, and an ever decreasing food supply. And I don't see anybody putting air conditioning units in Antactica. And how can people in the US give so much money to forign countries such as Africa, when we have so much homelessness and unimployment here? For those of you who don't know, there are people in this country who can't get food, and starve to death. Infact, while typing this, I can't believe how messed up this is. There are people starving on the streets in parts of this country. Yet we take the food from our country, export it with our money and give it to other countries. Meanwhile people here die of starvation. I can't believe this. I just can't understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygimantas Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I still think this is a stupid idea. As said before, Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he will eat for a lifetime. Due to global warming, parts of the world (the parts of africa we're talking about) can no longer provide themselves with food. It is not their fault, but they deal with the consequences. Just as polar bears suffer due to melting ice caps, the people in africa suffer due to rising temperatures, and an ever decreasing food supply. And I don't see anybody putting air conditioning units in Antactica. And how can people in the US give so much money to forign countries such as Africa, when we have so much homelessness and unimployment here? For those of you who don't know, there are people in this country who can't get food, and starve to death. Infact, while typing this, I can't believe how messed up this is. There are people starving on the streets in parts of this country. Yet we take the food from our country, export it with our money and give it to other countries. Meanwhile people here die of starvation. I can't believe this. I just can't understand it. We aren't having it that bad, yes there is unemployment but trust me unless you are a complete idiot you can get job at at least minimum wage which is good enough for shelter, food and clothing. Lots of people on the streets who are starving are lazy, drunks. The only poor people in the country that i do care about are the ones who became that way because of a natural disaster like Katrina or Tornadoes. 99 Hunter - November 1st, 200899 Cooking -July 22nd, 200999 Firemaking - July 29th, 201099 Fletching - December 30th, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 To whom are we talking about here? Giving it to the jungle villages of Africa or a semi-Westernized country? If its the former, where the hell are they gonna get eletricity? If you had read the topic you would know it doesn't get plugged in. Either solar powered or a manual crank. Manual cranking? That's a first. :lol: It's actually pretty cool when you think about it. If I had a laptop I wouldn't mind being able to recharge it at any time just by cranking a generator around. I don't know what the ratio of crank-time to up-time is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver_wits Posted September 5, 2008 Author Share Posted September 5, 2008 I read somewhere in a blog that about a min/2min of cranking would be enough for half an hour... of course it all depends on the speed of cranking... :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IeatWindex Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Using donations for laptops in poor countries would be something like this. "Hm, Im starving and homeless, I should use this laptop to tell everyone my problems." And that person dies from lack of food, which the donation money could of been used for. Not the best idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan18 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Using donations for laptops in poor countries would be something like this. "Hm, Im starving and homeless, I should use this laptop to tell everyone my problems." And that person dies from lack of food, which the donation money could of been used for. Not the best idea. furthering your argument would be "Hm, I'm starving and homeless, but i get food that just got donated, I'll eat up resources and die a week later instead" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IeatWindex Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Using donations for laptops in poor countries would be something like this. "Hm, Im starving and homeless, I should use this laptop to tell everyone my problems." And that person dies from lack of food, which the donation money could of been used for. Not the best idea. furthering your argument would be "Hm, I'm starving and homeless, but i get food that just got donated, I'll eat up resources and die a week later instead" Id rather live a week longer than use a close-to-useless laptop and die later that day. How do you know they'll get more food donated before that end of the week hmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariusman Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 You need to give education and make good, stable governments in the areas you want to help. A good, smart government will be able to get the economy back up again, get those people jobs - which they can do because of education - and place a country in a good state. As much money as Bill Gates has donated to charity (I think on the order of $4 billion), I suspect most of that has gone to waste. Slapping a problem with money has little or no positive effect. There's no such thing as regret. A regret means you are unhappy with the person you are now,and if you're unhappy with the person you are, you change yourself. Thatregret will no longer be a regret, because it will help to form the new,better you. So really, a regret isn't a regret. It's experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisc6 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I believe thats what the bill and miranda gates charity is doing...Even though i said early that there distributing aid in the wrong places and that infrastructure is key, there is merit and purpose to emergency aid and rations etc you shouldnt be quick to discredit teh act, its just too much money and emphasis is on immediate aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver_wits Posted September 5, 2008 Author Share Posted September 5, 2008 You need to give education and make good, stable governments in the areas you want to help. A good, smart government will be able to get the economy back up again, get those people jobs - which they can do because of education - and place a country in a good state. As much money as Bill Gates has donated to charity (I think on the order of $4 billion), I suspect most of that has gone to waste. Slapping a problem with money has little or no positive effect. Correct... there needs to be people who are willing to rise up against the grain and change!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapeloser22 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 My friend has one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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