Government conspiracies

[RSBDavid]

I hate the term 'government' when we don't know who the government is.

 

 

 

that's what scares me the most. The fact that we don't know anything about our government.

 

We DO know that they want our money, though.

 

 

 

Touche

[Lenticular_J]

Even though they didn't kill 3000 people.

 

It's saying if they did. If they'd do that, and destroy two buildings that were terribly important, they could give anyone that tried to complain a STFU.

 

 

 

I hate the term 'government' when we don't know who the government is.

 

More conspiracies. Woot.

[jackattack]

I hate the term 'government' when we don't know who the government is.

 

 

 

that's what scares me the most. The fact that we don't know anything about our government.

 

 

 

 

 

Well it's quite simple really. Our government consists of three branches.

 

 

 

1. The Executive which includes The President and until Cheney it included the Vice President.

 

2. The Legislative, which includes the House and the Senate. The House is made up of 435 members elected on basis of population. The Senate is made up of 100 members, 2 from every state.

 

3. The Judicial branch is made up of the Supreme court justices who are appointed by the President for life.

 

 

 

After that there are state and local governments. And don't forget about the secret world government controlled by all the wealthy businessmen. ;)

[obfuscator]

911 conspiracy is bs. the govenment needed the pentagon and world trade center too.

 

 

 

conspiracy theories are really just people trying to make a name for themselves and are complete bs

[Dizzle229]

Yes, IF they staged 9/11, they wouldn't care about the Constitution. I think our Founding Fathers would have something to say about something like this ;)

[Lenticular_J]

I think our Founding Fathers would have something to say about something like this ;)

 

Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawghe?

 

 

 

(They'd be zombies).

[Woodcut Lvr]

9/11 conspiracy = bull stinkies.

 

Flat Earth conspiracy = stinkier bull stinkies.

 

 

 

The conspiracy where all governments are controlled by a core group of people is more plausable than those two.

[thrash-boy]

Most conspiracies are normally false anyway, regardless of what it's about. Same with things like Roswell etc.

 

 

 

true.

 

that consiricy about 9-11 is so not true. sinze when did it mean a bomb exploded when a building pancakes down.

 

whatever i saw about it years ago said basically that the heat from the burning jet fuel, weakened structure due to plane impact and poor quality/lack of fire proofing resulted in the bucking of the structure due to the huge weight above it.

 

basically a floor collapsed due to these bad conditions, which landed on the floor below. that massive hit from the entire building above landing on this one floor and the other factors made that floor collapse, which landed on the below floor, and the next one, and so on...

[misterxman]

Delagoria - All the government had to do was make it seem like an accident. If "the government" could pull off 9/11 with no one leaking the truth, I'm sure they could find a way to make the film makers die in a car crash or something. Making sure no one spills the beans, I'm sure the government would have noticed a couple of people making/researching 9/11 and stopped the film from ever being completed in the first place.

 

 

 

Even if they manage to make their deaths look like an accident, it will not erase suspicion. In fact, it'll add to the suspicion. Nothing hides from the media. Word will get out that the men who died happened to be 9/11 conspiracy investigators. Plus, a video of 9/11 conspiracies being removed would add to the suspicion. Killing them would just make them a martyr to the cause and bring more supporters. And as someone put nicely, if a project has over zero people involved, word will get out eventually. Creating such a major undergoing in total secret with absolutely no clues that anything ever happened is very hard to do, maintaining the secrecy is just as hard.

 

 

 

 

 

If "The government" has the ability to pull off 9/11, they have the ability to make it look like an accident without suspicion, and would have stopped the kids from ever finishing the film before it could be posted.

[____]

Best conspiracy of them all is did man really set foot on the moon, July 20, 1969? ;)

[oegly41]

I hate the term 'government' when we don't know who the government is.

 

I have the same problem. When you say "the governments", does that mean "the American governments"?

 

 

 

It doesn't really matter, as North America is just one big conspiracy made by the Internet. The whole continent is completely made up. All the people living there and all the pop-cultural stuff come from programs.

 

 

 

But how can that be? I've been to North America!

 

 

 

Ah, yes. I have also "been" to North America. This is the cunning part of this scheme. When you "go to North America", you go to take a plane, boat or whatever, and you get shipped of to a secret island in the Pacific. There, you get put into some kind of vacation goo, which creates your trip.

 

 

 

But how can this be? I live in North America!

 

 

 

No you don't. You're just a program. Shut up.

 

 

 

[hide=Felling annoyed by my post?]No, I don't think this, and I don't post this to spam. It's just to remind us that we can never be sure about anything.[/hide]

[deloriagod]

 

But how can this be? I live in North America!

 

 

 

No you don't. You're just a program. Shut up.

 

 

 

Well somebody needs to program some more motivation into me. I don't feel like doing any of my homework today.. :?

[saif]

 

But how can this be? I live in North America!

 

 

 

No you don't. You're just a program. Shut up.

 

 

 

Well somebody needs to program some more motivation into me. I don't feel like doing any of my homework today.. :?

 

no flamez plz

[warren211]

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Delagoria - All the government had to do was make it seem like an accident. If "the government" could pull off 9/11 with no one leaking the truth, I'm sure they could find a way to make the film makers die in a car crash or something. Making sure no one spills the beans, I'm sure the government would have noticed a couple of people making/researching 9/11 and stopped the film from ever being completed in the first place.

 

 

 

Even if they manage to make their deaths look like an accident, it will not erase suspicion. In fact, it'll add to the suspicion. Nothing hides from the media. Word will get out that the men who died happened to be 9/11 conspiracy investigators. Plus, a video of 9/11 conspiracies being removed would add to the suspicion. Killing them would just make them a martyr to the cause and bring more supporters. And as someone put nicely, if a project has over zero people involved, word will get out eventually. Creating such a major undergoing in total secret with absolutely no clues that anything ever happened is very hard to do, maintaining the secrecy is just as hard.

 

 

 

 

 

If "The government" has the ability to pull off 9/11, they have the ability to make it look like an accident without suspicion, and would have stopped the kids from ever finishing the film before it could be posted.

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First off, if they were behind 9/11, they'd probably make sure it looks nothing like a conspiracy so the people who think everything is a conspiracy might actually calm down. Problem is, there are conspiracies anyway. They did confiscate some security films from local businesses, maybe searching for evidence, maybe preventing the video from being displayed all over the news. Maybe that's as far as the conspiracy goes. They haven't stopped the kids making the film, again maybe it's because they have nothing to hide, maybe because removing it would add suspicion.

 

 

 

Besides, what motive could the government have to kill thousands of people and destroy major buildings? The government is made of more than one man. For this to be approved by enough people to get it in motion, you'd have to sway hundreds of officials. Unless only a few congressmen were involved, in which case, it's not the government that is part of the conspiracy but simply a few men who maybe needed money or sick entertainment or something. If it were a "government" act, you'd have to get dozens, possibly hundreds, of officials involved. There's no way such a huge undertaking could stay 100% secret even 7 years after the event.

[assassin_696]

Best conspiracy of them all is did man really set foot on the moon, July 20, 1969? ;)

 

 

 

I have a friend who swears blind that the moon-landings never happened. We were away on a holiday when the argument happened so we couldn't check the internet to back up our arguments so it didn't really go anywhere. Conspiracy theories always sound so compelling because it's much more interesting to believe it's all a coverup.

[warri0r45]

Coincidentally, I watched a doco about WTC7 on TV last night. As many may know, WTC7 (World Trade Center 7) was one of the buildings that collapsed on sept. 11, 2001.

 

 

 

There were some questions over what caused WTC7 to collapse that day as no other cases of a skyscraper falling due to fire are known, however the doco pretty much dispelled the idea that it had to be a controlled demolition or government conspiracy. That's right down there on the plausibility stakes, anyway.

 

 

 

Of course the true believer types are quick to point out who's in on the cover up so they can wash their hands of actually coming up with a coherent explanation.

[dsavi]

That flat earth one is sad. Some people are really deluded.

[deloriagod]

Coincidentally, I watched a doco about WTC7 on TV last night. As many may know, WTC7 (World Trade Center 7) was one of the buildings that collapsed on sept. 11, 2001.

 

 

 

There were some questions over what caused WTC7 to collapse that day as no other cases of a skyscraper falling due to fire are known, however the doco pretty much dispelled the idea that it had to be a controlled demolition or government conspiracy. That's right down there on the plausibility stakes, anyway.

 

 

 

Of course the true believer types are quick to point out who's in on the cover up so they can wash their hands of actually coming up with a coherent explanation.

 

 

 

I watched a show about the WTC collapse the other day as well. They mentioned that the steel supports from the areas where the planes hit didn't have the fireproofing on them anymore. I kind of zoned out after that, but I did catch that much.

[____]

Best conspiracy of them all is did man really set foot on the moon, July 20, 1969? ;)

 

 

 

I have a friend who swears blind that the moon-landings never happened. We were away on a holiday when the argument happened so we couldn't check the internet to back up our arguments so it didn't really go anywhere. Conspiracy theories always sound so compelling because it's much more interesting to believe it's all a coverup.

 

There's a couple of people on these forums who agree with your friend. And now that I think about it.. where did all out conspiracy nutters run off to?

[saif]

Best conspiracy of them all is did man really set foot on the moon, July 20, 1969? ;)

 

 

 

I have a friend who swears blind that the moon-landings never happened. We were away on a holiday when the argument happened so we couldn't check the internet to back up our arguments so it didn't really go anywhere. Conspiracy theories always sound so compelling because it's much more interesting to believe it's all a coverup.

 

 

 

If I could get a link it would be help ful... by the way guys we can also discuss conspiracies from governments outside of the u.s.a. :twss:

[BlueLancer]

Best conspiracy of them all is did man really set foot on the moon, July 20, 1969? ;)

 

 

 

I have a friend who swears blind that the moon-landings never happened. We were away on a holiday when the argument happened so we couldn't check the internet to back up our arguments so it didn't really go anywhere. Conspiracy theories always sound so compelling because it's much more interesting to believe it's all a coverup.

 

 

 

If I could get a link it would be help ful... by the way guys we can also discuss conspiracies from governments outside of the u.s.a. :twss:

 

 

 

International syndicate of maple syrup smugglers connected to canadian UN aid programme? Cmon, besides middle-east, USA and Africa, nothing interesting happens in the world of corruption and political crime. :cry:

[Lenticular_J]

Best conspiracy of them all is did man really set foot on the moon, July 20, 1969? ;)

 

 

 

I have a friend who swears blind that the moon-landings never happened. We were away on a holiday when the argument happened so we couldn't check the internet to back up our arguments so it didn't really go anywhere. Conspiracy theories always sound so compelling because it's much more interesting to believe it's all a coverup.

 

That's one of the few plausible conspiracy theories. I believe Lancy actually pwned the Moon, but it could have been faked - plenty of reason to do it, even though I don't think that's what happened.

[jackattack]

^^ That is completely bs. I've met Buzz Aldrin. He's been to the moon.

[Agunimon979]

What i think is that the actually shuttle actually launched off into space, but never made it to the moon, so while the shuttle was still "traveling to the moon," Nasa went to hollywood and faked the moon landing to convince everyone that they have been to the moon.

 

 

 

Also, how come in the "moon video" all the astronaut's shadows are not in one place? I know light reflects on the moon, but not like that i think, seems like the effect of stage lighting to me.

[Lateralus]

What i think is that the actually shuttle actually launched off into space, but never made it to the moon, so while the shuttle was still "traveling to the moon," Nasa went to hollywood and faked the moon landing to convince everyone that they have been to the moon.

 

 

 

Also, how come in the "moon video" all the astronaut's shadows are not in one place? I know light reflects on the moon, but not like that i think, seems like the effect of stage lighting to me.

 

 

 

It's most likely just the topography of the moon making it look like the shadows aren't parallel. Experts have been saying this for a while, and the guys from Mythbusters recreated the photo quite accurately and made it look as if the shadows weren't parallel just by adjusting rocks and 'moon dust'.

 

 

 

The moon landing was absolutely real.