Gin_and_Tonic Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Since summoning has released Familars with the extraordinary power of healing, many players are turning to Bandits as a means of training, whilst going to the shops, playing football, watching tv etc... With the school term starting many players (like I) are using them to train whilst focusing on College/School work... They're easy, great xp and cheap to slay... But i have just one problem - the over-crowding and free-loading gate-crashing happy players who deem it justified, simply because they have a higher combat level, to attempt to steal your spot... Along with the compulsory 'Homg, nub gtfo out of meh spot nub, nub ,nub nub ubunububvunubvunuvunudufd'... Fun, right? -.- In short; Players who gate-crash you at Bandits are pathetic... So, heres my solution - There are 5 possible places to slay them (If you put two in the pub) - Make them all into tents with closed doors, where you pay a guard at the entrace a small fee to enter, for an allocated amount of time, and once inside you're the only player allowed in... And you can only log-out if you leave the tent. This will do two things - Prevent huge amounts of AFK'ing by using a time-system (e.g. those people who literally sit in Guthans at Defence mode for 15 hours at a time), and it will also prevent players gate-crashing your training. Its a simple rant with a relatively simple solution - it wouldn't even be too hard to implement as with less players playing due to School/college, the least they can do is help those who can do both... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Nope. There are no rules to prevent someone from "stealing" your spot. They can and have every right to do so. Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omali Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Or players could just learn to accept the fact that in any MMO, the best training places are going to be crowded. How many times does it need to be pointed out on the rants forum that this is a massively multiplayer ONLINE game and that the players aren't paying to stand in line and wait for you to finish AFK-training while you do your college work? Competition for scarce resources will always end up with someone getting booted out. Why is it that Rune miners, who get 2 ore per world before having to go to the next, hoping it hasn't been taken, why are they the ones who complain the least about people stealing their resources? Looking at it from a purely lore point of view; Bandits charging you money to kill them? Also, you're hardly one to complain about others AFK training, considering you just admitted to doing it yourself. Jagex should be bringing in more competition to Runescape, not holding their player's hands. That's the kind of strategy that brought so many kiddies to this game. If someone steals your spot, be better than them. Make it not worth their time and effort and force them off of the world. If you sit down and throw a tantrum, you're going to accomplish nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselX Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I don't mean it in a bad way, but it seems like you want some sort of low attention AFK exp "machine" haha :P Press button, insert coin, and there you go worry free for an hour :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto_the_Phoenix Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 IMHO, anyone that camps at a place like Bandits is pathetic. If you're going to level, go level and get some Slayer while you're at it (hell, that's the entire point of the skill right there -- to get you to move around to different monsters and training spots). My advice to you is to find a new spot to camp, or learn to deal with it. You're not supposed to be able to AFK anything anyway. Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallettheif Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Cry more? The game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 You're not supposed to be able to AFK anything anyway. Agreed. I think the solution is to actually make bandits non-aggressive after 15 minutes in the area. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 IMHO, anyone that camps at a place like Bandits is pathetic. If you're going to level, go level and get some Slayer while you're at it (hell, that's the entire point of the skill right there -- to get you to move around to different monsters and training spots). My advice to you is to find a new spot to camp, or learn to deal with it. You're not supposed to be able to AFK anything anyway. I agree. And also, just because something is overcrowded doesn't mean it needs to be fixed. If that were true, Runescape as a whole would need a complete revamp. They'd have to fix Hunter, Mining, oh man... the list goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordhand20 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 So a system to remove the only thing that balances the AFKing at bandits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elit9 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Eh, bandit crashers are annoying but I can't see this gaining any traction because we already know that a "fix" is coming: when pvp worlds come out, I'm pretty you'll find spots open on those worlds. And you won't really be able to afk too well, either. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Isn't AFK training a little, hmmm, what's the word...? IMMORAL? People spend hours training and you just sit there with your POT-BELLIED GUTHAN'S ARMOR, training for hours on end, without even clicking once. The ability to crash the place is the only way to balance it. Right now, it's a pretty popular, but rather unfair thing, and if you were to make it EASIER... only Saradomin knows what will happen then... [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corn_corn2 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I think we (by we I mean regular people who understand combat training should take even a thread of effort. Oh hi there Slayer) can agree on one solution to this problem: Remove bandits completely. Then we dont have all this "its my spot gtfo" crappage. Simplicity, beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin_and_Tonic Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 Nearly all your posts are based around the same thing - Slayer -.- Not everyone gets turned on by slaying beats for hours on end for little/no rewards, and many plays, like myself, have little time to play - thus, we'd like the most productive experience in the few hours we are spend playing. If you also look, i have stated i DO NOT AFK, and if you read the suggestion, it can actually help to prevent AFK'ing for long periods of time. Many of you people all seem to side against me, simply because you believe slayer is the 'miracle cure' to all combat related issues - well here's the thing - it aint... Bandits is just like using Chinchompa's for range, or Barraging at a spot for Mage xp, or using nat runners... Take the time to look at this from a logical point of view, not the typical moany arse Runescape player point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto_the_Phoenix Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 ... Take the time to look at this from a logical point of view, not the typical moany arse Runescape player point of view. ...but you're taking the exact same view when it comes to bandits. You don't like it when players steal your spot, so we suggested that you try more popular spots. Can't help that they're normally Slayer monster spots, either -- many players seem to enjoy camping dust devils or Abyssal Demons. I go to college too, so my time to play/train is either strained or completely nonexistent. That's a fact of life. But, when I do train, I usually do my slayer tasks. They give more experience for me, since I know how to do it effectively. Anyway, you have to either accept that Bandits isn't the best place to be training, or deal with the crashers. What more could you possibly want?! Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 why kill bandits anyway, when you can get nearly 30k/hr elsewere I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Bandits is just like using Chinchompa's for range, or Barraging at a spot for Mage xp, or using nat runners... Take the time to look at this from a logical point of view, not the typical moany arse Runescape player point of view. Wrong. How much does it take for Range to get to 99 with chins? 35m. How much for barraging to 99? A lot more than 35m. Let's say 50m, event though it's a lot more. How much does it take for bandits to all 99 melees? Guthans armour, which is like 5m now. You're just lazy, as all bandit slayers are. Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Bandits is just like using Chinchompa's for range, or Barraging at a spot for Mage xp, or using nat runners... Take the time to look at this from a logical point of view, not the typical moany arse Runescape player point of view. Wrong. How much does it take for Range to get to 99 with chins? 35m. How much for barraging to 99? A lot more than 35m. Let's say 50m, event though it's a lot more. How much does it take for bandits to all 99 melees? Guthans armour, which is like 5m now. You're just lazy, as all bandit slayers are. I'm inclined to agree. What you are suggesting is a "perfect" training spot. No spot is or should be perfect, therefore the major drawback of this one is the fact that it is overcrowded. So stop being lazy. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salad Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 No. Bandits was not meant for power training (same with ape atoll monkeys) and paying guards for some time to kill some bandits is just stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenkana Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 No. Bandits was not meant for power training (same with ape atoll monkeys) and paying guards for some time to kill some bandits is just stupidI can see it now: You: "Excuse me, I wish to slay you and your brethren; may I request entrance into this tent so I may do so? I'm willing to pay 50 gp..." Bandit: "50 gp?!? HOT DAMN!!!" Although considering Runescape's owners, it'd be "50 gp?!? Hot ****!!!" If the CORPORAL beast is this hard, imagine how hard a GENERAL or COLONEL beast would be. a corporal is not even an admirable rank in armies that use that ranking system. Yeah, it is a pking minigame, so any arguments anybody makes will probably be biased.The best way this will end :Everybody just says,"I'm not arguing with you anymore, goodbye."The worst way this will end: I don't really know, psychological warfare? Worldwide thermonuclear war? Pie eating contest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decid3 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I'm sorry but your idea fails on epic levels =D> Psionic Elem - friend stole it and sold it to a school mate...wellplayed2 7 3 - i go on a break and forget the pw...imsmartT 3 R R 3 T - waiting to fail :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omali Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 If you also look, i have stated i DO NOT AFK, and if you read the suggestion, it can actually help to prevent AFK'ing for long periods of time. Yea, after you edited your post to remove the "I AFK there while doing my college work" Great job censoring yourself to look better. Unfortunately, people like myself had already seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 If you also look, i have stated i DO NOT AFK, and if you read the suggestion, it can actually help to prevent AFK'ing for long periods of time. Yea, after you edited your post to remove the "I AFK there while doing my college work" Great job censoring yourself to look better. Unfortunately, people like myself had already seen it. Agreed. I saw that as well. Do yourself a favor and quit while you still have that little bit of dignity left. Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin_and_Tonic Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 If you also look, i have stated i DO NOT AFK, and if you read the suggestion, it can actually help to prevent AFK'ing for long periods of time. Yea, after you edited your post to remove the "I AFK there while doing my college work" Great job censoring yourself to look better. Unfortunately, people like myself had already seen it. Agreed. I saw that as well. Do yourself a favor and quit while you still have that little bit of dignity left. What on earth are you young fiends talking about? Afking is when you leave the key board, there is nothing against looking at a different screen while you are at Bandits... Unless you believe im capeable of do my Assignments on Powerpoint while looking at the Runescape screen... -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin_and_Tonic Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 Bandits is just like using Chinchompa's for range, or Barraging at a spot for Mage xp, or using nat runners... Take the time to look at this from a logical point of view, not the typical moany arse Runescape player point of view. Wrong. How much does it take for Range to get to 99 with chins? 35m. How much for barraging to 99? A lot more than 35m. Let's say 50m, event though it's a lot more. How much does it take for bandits to all 99 melees? Guthans armour, which is like 5m now. You're just lazy, as all bandit slayers are. Im not lazy... Im in education, and doing a bloody good job at it. Maybe you should try doing some extra curricular activities? Might help you realise Runescape isn't actually, ever going to become real-life, no matter how many times you put it on your Christmas list. EDIT: Oh, i also work 50 hours a week (around 24 hours of collegE), am in charge of the entire Christmas operation inside 14 different restaurant outlets for the Restaurant Group PLC and im going to be Dad is less than 2 months... Don't call me lazy, Kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Bandits is just like using Chinchompa's for range, or Barraging at a spot for Mage xp, or using nat runners... Take the time to look at this from a logical point of view, not the typical moany arse Runescape player point of view. Wrong. How much does it take for Range to get to 99 with chins? 35m. How much for barraging to 99? A lot more than 35m. Let's say 50m, event though it's a lot more. How much does it take for bandits to all 99 melees? Guthans armour, which is like 5m now. You're just lazy, as all bandit slayers are. Im not lazy... Im in education, and doing a bloody good job at it. Maybe you should try doing some extra curricular activities? Might help you realise Runescape isn't actually, ever going to become real-life, no matter how many times you put it on your Christmas list. EDIT: Oh, i also work 50 hours a week (around 24 hours of collegE), am in charge of the entire Christmas operation inside 14 different restaurant outlets for the Restaurant Group PLC and im going to be Dad is less than 2 months... Don't call me lazy, Kid. Lets see.. All you did was insult me, while throwing out random "facts" about your life. I don't care about that. You're lazy in this game, which is the matter at hand. Another, rather stupid thing, was that you assume I'm a kid. I'd love to see evidence of this. Please. You just want the easy levels, and I say your idea is stupid and lazy. Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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