Exactly. He was really a good speaker, he just overdid simplifying everything.

 

 

 

The video speaks the truth.

I love how people are debating that Palin is stupid. Here's a fact, folks: All of them are smarter than you.

 

Obama is a Senator. What was he before he started politics? A lawyer? So, yes, quite smart.

 

 

 

Biden - another Senator (for quite some time), another lawyer.

 

 

 

Palin - a Governor. Was a mayor, right?

 

 

 

McCain - Senator.

 

 

 

If they weren't more qualified than you, you would be running for President or Vice President, I daresay.

 

 

 

Jeez, does it even make a difference? McCain-Palin and Obama-Biden's policies are intensely similar. EDIT: Hm, this coulda gone in the actual election thread as well. Meh.

 

 

 

Never have I been so against a single post on tif before. Congrats. :thumbup:

It's definitely an overreaction, don't believe anything on Fox TV. Anything on Fox is produced, edited and whatever by morons. Especially Fox News.

So, what do you watch? Msnbc? Cnn?

 

 

 

Everyone knows that Fox News has a conservative bias - but people watch CNN and MsNBC and don't even realize they have a liberal bias.

So, what do you watch? Msnbc? Cnn?

 

 

 

Everyone knows that Fox News has a conservative bias - but people watch CNN and MsNBC and don't even realize they have a liberal bias.

 

 

 

I don't see how you can watch Msnbc and not know. I mean Msnbc makes Fox look like Pbs or something. I mean when you see Keith Olbermann anchoring coverage of the conventions, It is just so blatant that they are in the tank for Obama and the democrats. At least I got to see Olbermann make a fool of himself.

So, what do you watch? Msnbc? Cnn?

 

 

 

Everyone knows that Fox News has a conservative bias - but people watch CNN and MsNBC and don't even realize they have a liberal bias.

 

 

 

I don't see how you can watch Msnbc and not know. I mean Msnbc makes Fox look like Pbs or something. I mean when you see Keith Olbermann anchoring coverage of the conventions, It is just so blatant that they are in the tank for Obama and the democrats. At least I got to see Olbermann make a fool of himself.

 

Foxnews has Bill O'Reilly and Karl Rove. How much worse can you get than that?

 

O'Reilly constantly makes a fool out of himself, so maybe people have just grown accustomed to him.

 

Yes MSNBC is one of the most liberal channels, but don't try saying Fox isn't as bad.

So, what do you watch? Msnbc? Cnn?

 

 

 

Everyone knows that Fox News has a conservative bias - but people watch CNN and MsNBC and don't even realize they have a liberal bias.

 

 

 

What news station is less biased than CNN? MSNBC is liberally biased, yes, but just because CNN doesn't have a neocon bias doesn't mean it has a liberal bias... :roll:

CNN is biased too. Not as bad as Msnbc. CNN is mostly fair, but there was just some thing yesterday where a CNN guy tried to ask a getcha question to Palin and misquoted a writer and called Palin 'stupid, corrupt, incompetent and all of the above'

 

 

 

So, what do you watch? Msnbc? Cnn?

 

 

 

Everyone knows that Fox News has a conservative bias - but people watch CNN and MsNBC and don't even realize they have a liberal bias.

 

 

 

I don't see how you can watch Msnbc and not know. I mean Msnbc makes Fox look like Pbs or something. I mean when you see Keith Olbermann anchoring coverage of the conventions, It is just so blatant that they are in the tank for Obama and the democrats. At least I got to see Olbermann make a fool of himself.

 

Foxnews has Bill O'Reilly and Karl Rove. How much worse can you get than that?

 

O'Reilly constantly makes a fool out of himself, so maybe people have just grown accustomed to him.

 

Yes MSNBC is one of the most liberal channels, but don't try saying Fox isn't as bad.

 

 

 

Karl Rove is a guest on their shows and O'Reilly's program is not a news program. He's a commentator not a journalist. Really though, watch both of their programs and compare them. Olbermann really does make O'Reilly actually look 'fair and balanced'. Msnbc had Olbermann anchoring coverage of the conventions. That's a job for journalists not commentators. Fox news doesn't have Sean Hannity and Billo the clown anchoring their coverage. Msnbc said that Olbermann and Chris Matthews 'know the line between journalism and commentating' when it was pretty obvious that they didn't. It is just blatant.

So, what do you watch? Msnbc? Cnn?

 

 

 

Everyone knows that Fox News has a conservative bias - but people watch CNN and MsNBC and don't even realize they have a liberal bias.

 

 

 

I don't see how you can watch Msnbc and not know. I mean Msnbc makes Fox look like Pbs or something. I mean when you see Keith Olbermann anchoring coverage of the conventions, It is just so blatant that they are in the tank for Obama and the democrats. At least I got to see Olbermann make a fool of himself.

 

Foxnews has Bill O'Reilly and Karl Rove. How much worse can you get than that?

 

O'Reilly constantly makes a fool out of himself, so maybe people have just grown accustomed to him.

 

Yes MSNBC is one of the most liberal channels, but don't try saying Fox isn't as bad.

 

 

 

 

 

NOOOO NOT BILL O REILLY!!

 

 

 

I hate that guy, most Republicans do, he'sa self righteous moron. I imagine, if he were to interview Jesus, he'd say in a pompous voice 'So, Jesus, why;d you die so early? That was pretty selfish of you, you could have saved so many people, but no, you took the easy way out." I watch him just to laugh, at what an idiot he is. He's like Pat Robertson, I semi-agree with what they say, but they go about it the completely wrong way.

I think bombastic is the word you are looking for. But compared to Olbermann, O'Reilly should win the Pulitzer prize.

Bill O'Reilly does it on purpose. Having met him in person (completely different guy), he puts on the persona of the tough love type just to get people inflamed and talking. Which obviously works with you guys.

 

 

 

It's not a secret, though, that the media is favoring the left over the right in this election. You would have to have some thick wool over your eyes not to see that.

Bill O'Reilly does it on purpose. Having met him in person (completely different guy), he puts on the persona of the tough love type just to get people inflamed and talking. Which obviously works with you guys.

 

 

 

It's not a secret, though, that the media is favoring the left over the right in this election. You would have to have some thick wool over your eyes not to see that.

 

 

 

 

 

It's so blatant though. I mean, Obama having the media behind him has to give him a considerable boost in the polls also.

I can't really tell you guys much, but seeing the news coverage that arrives to Costa Rica and the week I spent in Colorado some time ago, it's pretty clear to me that Obama has always had the media right behind him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Conservative media. Always trying to attack him. I could constantly hear news on how the communist liberal media always gave him more coverage, but it seemed that the conservative were too busy attacking Obama to give McCain attention.

I can't really tell you guys much, but seeing the news coverage that arrives to Costa Rica and the week I spent in Colorado some time ago, it's pretty clear to me that Obama has always had the media right behind him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Conservative media. Always trying to attack him. I could constantly hear news on how the communist liberal media always gave him more coverage, but it seemed that the conservative were too busy attacking Obama to give McCain attention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that in Costa Rica? Because even Fox News sings Obama's praise at times.

I'd expect more of a bias here, since our economy tends to strive when there are Republican presidents in the US, but it only was so when Obama went to Europe/made his speech in Berlin.

Quite off-topic here, but the only reason the media appears to be favoring the left is because of Bush and Palin's glaring incompetence. Recently, Biden had an interview with Barbara West on WFTV in which her questions tried as hard as they possibly could to connect Obama/Biden with socialism, Karl Marx, and ACORN.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Listen to the way she asks the questions. That's about as biased as you possibly can be. :wall:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd expect more of a bias here, since our economy tends to strive when there are Republican presidents in the US, but it only was so when Obama went to Europe/made his speech in Berlin.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lol...

Actually, the media has ALWAYS favored the Left, in pretty much every election.

Quite off-topic here, but the only reason the media appears to be favoring the left is because of Bush and Palin's glaring incompetence. Recently, Biden had an interview with Barbara West on WFTV in which her questions tried as hard as they possibly could to connect Obama/Biden with socialism, Karl Marx, and ACORN.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Listen to the way she asks the questions. That's about as biased as you possibly can be. :wall:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've seen that video, and god forbid a reporter that actually asks hard-hitting questions and she gets in [cabbage] for it. Biden's a [bleep].

 

Quite off-topic here, but the only reason the media appears to be favoring the left is because of Bush and Palin's glaring incompetence. Recently, Biden had an interview with Barbara West on WFTV in which her questions tried as hard as they possibly could to connect Obama/Biden with socialism, Karl Marx, and ACORN.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Listen to the way she asks the questions. That's about as biased as you possibly can be. :wall:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've seen that video, and god forbid a reporter that actually asks hard-hitting questions and she gets in [cabbage] for it. Biden's a [bleep].

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's a difference between asking tough questions and reading Marx quotes and accusing Obama of wanting to turn the country into a socialist one.

This is waaaay off-topic, and I might have said it before. But I think it's funny how people compare Obama, who's running for president, to Pailin, who's running for Vice. Also, people don't realize, it doesn't mean crap who's elected, the Congress that's in there also matters, If Obama is elected, but it's Republican congress, not much will get done. My Physics teacher brought that to my attention today, I was surprised I didn't even think about that.

This is waaaay off-topic, and I might have said it before. But I think it's funny how people compare Obama, who's running for president, to Pailin, who's running for Vice. Also, people don't realize, it doesn't mean crap who's elected, the Congress that's in there also matters, If Obama is elected, but it's Republican congress, not much will get done. My Physics teacher brought that to my attention today, I was surprised I didn't even think about that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That makes it even worse. Imagine Nancy Pelosi setting the agenda of the country. Anything she wants done will happen. I might start trying to get out the vote for Cindy Sheehan. At least then we would have a sensible Speaker in Steny Hoyer.

As much as I dislike and loath Palin...this is plain ludicrous :roll:! What in the world is so shocking about a smidgen of noticeable facial hairs and the wrinkles of a mother of several children? Sheesh America regresses in IQ like by 50 points every year. Now if you excuse me...I'm going on 24/7 facial hair watch now.

 

Yeah, for a politician, McCain is a terrible debater. Well, all-around terrible public speaker, actually. Which is likely to be the main reason he loses the election.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

it doesn't help when he does that on stage :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Hahahaha, what the heck?! Is that photoshopped?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have fun voting, America.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I have this theory actually....The Republicans *want* to lose these elections. They picked Palin as the sacrificial lamb. Meanwhile they're letting Obama win during this sh***y time with recession and all that, when NO ONE could make things better after Bush f-ed up so badly. And during the next election, there will be McCain (if he's still alive :P) or some other dude, blaming the fiasco of these elections on Palin and the recession on Obama. Voila evil plan!

There was an article in my city's newspaper today about how Olbermann and O'Reilly are dominating the political news, and how there needs to be more middle ground people.