Safing? Really noobish or just a tactic?

[50Athlete50Lazy]

Honestly, safing is simply a tactic; in F2P i acknowledge it is stupid seeing as the max hit isn't far above 30 but in P2P the hits are simply getting too high. I know from personal experience that once you get into the 120s you aren't even safe for long on full hp, two specs with an AGS can knock over 140hp off you.

 

As far as P2P goes i think "safing" is justifiable, it's the full-time pkers that need to grow up, if they can't deal with some "noob" preventing himself from dying then is PVP really for them?

 

In reality i think we need more hitpoints or an ad-on to agility that allows us to partially avoid blows, resulting in a weakened hit.

 

Oh, and i forgot to mention i was continuously getting called a safer on my low level range pker by obby maulers hitting 26s at lvl 34.. i had 40 hp. Well really, how is that safing- all it is is STAYING ALIVE. I might add i had 33 successful kills that day before I died once.

[Yomyth105]

I'm f2p so I can't speak for members pvp, I know how high people can hit and that you can't really safe in p2p.

 

 

 

Here's the way I see it for f2p:

 

 

 

A fight with safing:

 

 

 

When someone safes most of the time the other leaves the fight of safes themselves. If they safe themselves, then both players just eat up their food and use up their arrows/pots/runes. They both leave the fight having no chance of winning, and having deliberately wasting their food.

 

 

 

A fight without safing:

 

 

 

Both players have a chance of getting a kill, and it comes down to who doesn't mess up. Items are actually being risked, which fuels the fun of pvp. Either nobody gets koed and both players think it was a good fight, and they 'almost' killed him. If somebody does get koed, the winner makes a profit and the loser has had a good fight and perhaps learned from his mistake.

 

 

 

Clicking food isn't fun, maybe that's just me.

 

 

 

It's not about "I'm not going to let you kill me," its that pvp isn't for you if you aren't comfortable with risking losing items.

 

 

 

I don't safe and I rarely die, If I do die it's because I've made a mistake. I don't mind dying because it's always a learning experience. If some people in f2p can't afford to lose their items, they shouldn't be wasting food for those that should be there.

 

 

 

it is so much better without safing but u cant trust ur opponent. they always do it tho. :x

[Lethargick]

The way I think of it is safe all you want more xp for me less food for you. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

BTW your all master debaters

[IHasChicken]

Master...debater? :shock: :shock: :shock:

 

 

 

Just try to say that over and over again as fast as you can :lol: :lol: :lol:

[ski1lz0wner]

safing is noobish but its just as noobish when an idiot calls you a safer when you clearly arent safing then they say h il lsafe now just as an exscuse for them to safe

 

 

 

alot of players have no idea what safing is so seem to use the word when ever someone eats players need to be educated

[Live2Live]

Safing if called anything is "Pure Strategy" i pk alot on my account and i do not want to be a victim. Yes i do safe but that is because if u consider all the factors in runescape u are never really safe with a max hit being as high as 70 with the ags or 80+ with d claws and coupled with a spell called vengeance can be quite devastating lol im sure everyone discussing this has koed themselves a couple times from not safing and dont forget those pjers after all the point of pvp is not for fun it is for money although most of the time u end up in lumbridge with negative effects on your income,But im sure that the majority of ppl saying that safers are noobs almost always run when out of food if u are such a Noble warrior then stand and fall to your death!

[The_Maddest]

You Wanna Live? You eat food.

 

Wanna take less hits? Wear high defensive Armor.

 

If you try and fight like this in F2P all you're going to do is lose money in food/potions. You won't have any fun PKing either because there's no danger involved.

 

 

 

Master...debater? :shock: :shock: :shock:

 

 

 

Just try to say that over and over again as fast as you can :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

LOL!

[Lan735]

remember the old saying.All is fair in love and war.But we are talking about war right?Well safing is a smart and a bit annoying tactic.Its not noobish.But oversafing is kind of annoying after a while.Unless you happen to be a ranger or mage yourself.Most f2ps are low to mid level players,They think full rune is the most valuble set of armour evar.F2ps ussually dont know a good way to make money so they assume that 100k is almost impossible to get.Thats why they safe.That full green d hide armour means alot to them.Same goes for members,That black drag armour,dark bow,and drag arrows are worth alot to them.

 

 

 

It depends on what your wearing in RS.For f2ps:Are you wearing really bad range armour?High level but just for fun?Are you using the worst bow ever with bronze arrows?Then you wont care.Same with mems.Are you using willow bow and green d hide armour?You ussually dont give a donkey poo.unless you are broke.Its noobish if your fighting a level 50 new mem with barely any good armour and you have the best range armour in the entire game and you dont let him attack you because you might have to eat a cooked meat to get 2HP BACK!!!WOW!!!2HP!!!ISNT THAT ALOT!!?!?!?Ahem...Sorry about that.ITS A TACTIC

[Vuvuzela]

safers r noobs who cant pk, dont want to learn how to pk, and are scared of losing a few items

 

 

 

safers just safe to annoy other people...talk about [developmentally delayed]...wasting supplies to annoy people LOL :shame:

 

Oh yes! let me just get down to 30hp and not eat so you can kill me!

 

Not safing is just like handing over your items to the person trying to kill you.

[mmmcannibalism]

it depends on how you define safing

 

 

 

the only real pking experience i have is ranging on ftp servers, I swallow two swordfish as soon as im at less then 30hp and get called a safer. I understand that it makes no sense to eat after everyhit but i figure if im within 2 hits of being killed its reasonable to eat. I have some friends that eat too soon and the fight is boring to watch because its all zeroes and i have another friend who wont eat if he cant be easily 1hit, i think hes crazy but not my choice

 

 

 

so basically, I think its okay to safe if you arent eating at a constant rate, i figure if you are within 2 non maxed hits then its fine to eat, if your eating above that its very boring.

[angra]

Safing can be both a tactic or really noobish, in the way that I personally find whilst PKing, for example, if I am confident in a fight but know my opponent can potentially hit high (eg rune x bow) I will safe but if i am in a fight and my opponent has extremely high levels for his combat level and hits regular 20's on me i begin to panic and click sharks like my life depends on it lol.

[mmmcannibalism]

Safing can be both a tactic or really noobish, in the way that I personally find whilst PKing, for example, if I am confident in a fight but know my opponent can potentially hit high (eg rune x bow) I will safe but if i am in a fight and my opponent has extremely high levels for his combat level and hits regular 20's on me i begin to panic and click sharks like my life depends on it lol.

 

 

 

agreed, situation determines action

[xen]

I don't think safing is noobish. Seeing as now people can combo well over 100 damage at once, it doesn't really matter anymore lol. So to me, safing or not, it's all fair game. Besides, safing uses all your food very quickly.

[niels586]

Tactic. I personally agree with the opinion that free too play safing is a bad thing but I will never call them "noobish". See safing is just getting an "advantage" above your oponnent (typo sorry), so this comparable to a high defence or a high strength level.

 

 

 

The whole idea of pures is to get an advantage above other players in your combat range. So if they are called heroes why are safers (who use plain tactics to gain advantage) noobish? Especially with the big knock out punchers like the dark bow and the godswords (always have range prayer on for the pjers in pvp :thumbsup: ).

 

 

 

Bottom line: if you hate safers don't fight them problem solved. I personally hate tank rangers (no offense) and therefore I won't fight them. No unnescesary hate used. If the whole world would do this our lives would be much brighter \ .

 

 

 

So yeah tactics.

[Friendyboy]

I'm f2p so I can't speak for members pvp, I know how high people can hit and that you can't really safe in p2p.

 

 

 

Here's the way I see it for f2p:

 

 

 

A fight with safing:

 

 

 

When someone safes most of the time the other leaves the fight of safes themselves. If they safe themselves, then both players just eat up their food and use up their arrows/pots/runes. They both leave the fight having no chance of winning, and having deliberately wasting their food.

 

 

 

A fight without safing:

 

 

 

Both players have a chance of getting a kill, and it comes down to who doesn't mess up. Items are actually being risked, which fuels the fun of pvp. Either nobody gets koed and both players think it was a good fight, and they 'almost' killed him. If somebody does get koed, the winner makes a profit and the loser has had a good fight and perhaps learned from his mistake.

 

 

 

Clicking food isn't fun, maybe that's just me.

 

 

 

It's not about "I'm not going to let you kill me," its that pvp isn't for you if you aren't comfortable with risking losing items.

 

 

 

I don't safe and I rarely die, If I do die it's because I've made a mistake. I don't mind dying because it's always a learning experience. If some people in f2p can't afford to lose their items, they shouldn't be wasting food for those that should be there.

 

 

 

 

 

So there are people out there that are not ignorant. To sum up, if you are not willing to die, do not PK. Also, if you safe, you are almost never going to get a kill without umbelieveable "undeserved" luck. Stick your [blanks] on the line, and the risk WILL pay off!

[Owned_Nex]

I look at it like a RL war,

 

Your in it to win, it shouldn't matter how you do it.

 

 

 

I am sorry, but you have got to be one of the most addicted person to RS ever.

 

 

 

RS is for fun...it is NOT real life.

[minicliper13]

 

 

 

Some say trash honor. I have been nh, i've lured. But I have NEVER safed. Sure, some might say "oh i wanna b a nub!11!! me no cares" but its about fun.

 

 

 

 

 

and dying and losing your stuff is fun?

 

i dont care if somone calls me a noob

 

I DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU DO YOU ARE A NOOB OK? LIVE WITH IT!!!!

 

EVEN IF YOU KILL LIKE 100 PLAYERS IN LIKE 5 SECONDS YOUR SOME KIND OF HAX0R NOOB OR SUMTIN...

 

 

 

...O_o soz bout the ehh.. caps...

 

 

 

anyway pretty much everyone in RS is a noob