OR however you call it, well my question is, I'm kinda sure I'm atheist but I believe in ghosts. so do atheists believe in ghosts or is it another 'God' matter to them?

Ghosts may or may not have anything to do with religion.

I'm kinda sure I'm atheist

 

Wouldnt that make you agnostic?

 

But I dont recall any connection between religion and ghosts, although there are references of both to each other.

 

Things like this are like fairies; they exist, but only if you believe they do.

Strictly speaking, like the above poster said... Atheism itself means the lack of theism, as in not believing in a god. It has nothing to do with ghosts.

 

 

 

Atheists usually only believe proven things with verifiable evidence though, so they more often than not, wont believe in ghosts either.

 

 

 

'Ghosts' aren't a theistic phenomena, there's also lots of religious folks who don't believe in ghosts (if not the majority)

OR however you call it, well my question is, I'm kinda sure I'm atheist but I believe in ghosts. so do atheists believe in ghosts or is it another 'God' matter to them?

 

 

 

Do you pray to ghosts?

OR however you call it, well my question is, I'm kinda sure I'm atheist but I believe in ghosts. so do atheists believe in ghosts or is it another 'God' matter to them?

 

 

 

Do you pray to ghosts?

 

I'm just saying how ghosts are existant because they never 'passed' to the other side.

 

'The other side' is religious imo.

That depends on the religion.

 

 

 

Anyway, I believe in God and I believe in ghosts. But I don't believe there is any relation.

OR however you call it, well my question is, I'm kinda sure I'm atheist but I believe in ghosts. so do atheists believe in ghosts or is it another 'God' matter to them?

 

 

 

Do you pray to ghosts?

 

I'm just saying how ghosts are existant because they never 'passed' to the other side.

 

'The other side' is religious imo.

 

 

 

That's 2 indirect assumptions; That 1. there are ghosts, and 2. there is such a place as "the other side". A debate doesn't really work by stating something as fact which can't be verified (not that this is really a debate though).

 

 

 

Personally, I wouldn't even equate belief in ghosts to belief in a God. Countless people stop believing in ghosts as they age by a natural process, just like other stories their parents tell them, the usual Santa Claus and whatnot... A 'God', while it can't be proven either, is a deeper running concept which also regards the origins of the universe/life.

Power of Wiki?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist

 

 

 

:P

 

 

 

According to Socrates:

 

Although he disputed the accusation that he was a "complete atheist", saying that he could not be an atheist as he believed in spirits

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I assume spirits are ghosts?

 

 

 

Looks like there are two versions of it?

 

Someone who doesn't believe in a god (but can believe in ghosts).

 

And someone who only believes in material things (no ghosts either).

 

 

 

Personally, I believe in ghosts but not in a god.

It's hard to find the difference between a spirit and a ghost, but I'd say a spirit is a much more religious concept than a ghost. Some indigenous people in Asia/Africa still worship natural spirits, ghosts on the other hand are often seen as 'cursed' or 'haunting'.

 

 

 

Good find on Socrates though 8-) Didn't remember reading that.

When I mean ghosts I mean like, a person died at Place A and stays there and bugs people.

I'm agnostic, but I believe there is a perfectly good scientific explanation for all these 'ghost' phenomenons.

I am an atheist. I do not believe in ghosts. I remember reading that a survey found that ~50% of Americans believe in ghosts.

OR however you call it, well my question is, I'm kinda sure I'm atheist but I believe in ghosts. so do atheists believe in ghosts or is it another 'God' matter to them?

 

 

 

Do you pray to ghosts?

 

I'm just saying how ghosts are existant because they never 'passed' to the other side.

 

'The other side' is religious imo.

 

 

 

That's 2 indirect assumptions; That 1. there are ghosts, and 2. there is such a place as "the other side". A debate doesn't really work by stating something as fact which can't be verified (not that this is really a debate though).

 

 

 

Personally, I wouldn't even equate belief in ghosts to belief in a God. Countless people stop believing in ghosts as they age by a natural process, just like other stories their parents tell them, the usual Santa Claus and whatnot... A 'God', while it can't be proven either, is a deeper running concept which also regards the origins of the universe/life.

 

are you saying santa claus doesn't exist?! :o

 

are you saying santa claus doesn't exist?! :o

 

 

 

Even working 24-hour shifts and using a MiG as his sleigh, his job description isn't even remotely viable by pure math, given the distances he has to cover and manufacture over 2 billion presents every year. He's best left in children's books. :lol:

 

 

 

Ghosts could be easier to prove than a God, given they supposedly can make recurring physical manifestations... But it seems very unlikely. How come every piece of evidence on ghosts has been without exception been found a forgery/fraud, or a fraternity prank/grainy YouTube video...

 

 

 

Let's just say if they really existed, James Randi would've been bankrupt years ago. Or is there a worldwide conspiracy of vowed poverty amongst witnesses of supernatural phenomena?

Sorry, as an atheist, I cannot take this thread/topic seriously, rofl.

Sorry, as an atheist, I cannot take this thread/topic seriously, rofl.

 

definitely. you're way better than these sorry religious douchebags amirite

definitely. you're way better than these sorry religious douchebags amirite

 

The OP is an Atheist and believes in ghosts. What's your point?

 

 

 

Except for some vague, half-baked link between God and ghosts, where is the relevance to Atheism here?

Sorry, as an atheist, I cannot take this thread/topic seriously, rofl.

 

definitely. you're way better than these sorry religious douchebags amirite

 

 

 

No, I simply find it amazing that anyone can believe in ghosts. :roll:

Umm, I'd say there's only a slight connection between god and ghosts, I don't think they're referenced in the bible (unless spirits and ghosts are the same?) but I won't pretend I'm an expert on religion. I'd still probably say you're more likely agnostic than athiest though.

 

are you saying santa claus doesn't exist?! :o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ghosts could be easier to prove than a God, given they supposedly can make recurring physical manifestations... But it seems very unlikely. How come every piece of evidence on ghosts has been without exception been found a forgery/fraud, or a fraternity prank/grainy YouTube video...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because they aren't all fake, in fact many of them are very possible. Also, people always say there's a "scientific" explanation for ghosts? Who says ghosts aren't scientific? Not understanding something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Remember when the world being round used to be a 'crazy' theory?

I'm not expect on the matter, but aren't ghosts 'Spirits' of the dead? Athiest don't really believe in spirits, thus they don't believe in ghosts.

I'm not expect on the matter, but aren't ghosts 'Spirits' of the dead? Athiest don't really believe in spirits, thus they don't believe in ghosts.

 

 

 

As said, atheism generally refers to lack of theistic belief (not believing in deities/gods). It's unusual, but not impossible, to be an atheist and still believe in "spirits".

 

 

 

I do find it a bit awkward from a logical view, because people mostly become atheists after realizing there isn't enough evidence/concrete proof to support the existence of a God... Yet they would believe in visible (or invisible) ghosts existing when there is no scientific evidence they exist at all (and there is a $1 million dollar reward for anyone who can prove the existence of any paranormal phenomena) :?

 

 

 

For all the creeking doors, sounds under the floor, flashes of light... More often than not there's a perfectly valid, non-mythical explanation which doesn't involve 'ghosts' at all.

 

 

 

I mean.. It would be interesting as heck if supernatural things existed. I for one think it would make the world much more fascinating.. But it just seems silly to believe in it based on nothing provable.

I've gone through phases of spiritual atheism.

 

 

 

Ghosts and spirits of the dead are essentially one in the same, but 'ghost' has more of a popular fiction interpretation.

 

 

 

and there is a $1 million dollar reward for anyone who can prove the existence of any paranormal phenomena

 

The James Randi Challenge is a bunch of BS, and more or less a total scam. :lol:

I don't believe in any supernatural phenomenon. I don't believe in leprechauns, ghouls, ghosts, vampires, witches, werewolves, zombies, or any gods, etc.

 

 

 

Aliens, however, could very well exist somewhere in the vast universe.