In the meeting history quest, the stone is a limeish grey color.

 

For all we know, that crimson THING in the picture could be the stone of jas and someone holding a torch up to it.

 

 

 

If you light a torch in a dark cave, you cant say the rocks in the cave are the same color as it would be on the surface.

 

 

 

I personaly only se a round object in that picture. :P

In the meeting history quest, the stone is a limeish grey color.

 

For all we know, that crimson THING in the picture could be the stone of jas and someone holding a torch up to it.

 

 

 

If you light a torch in a dark cave, you cant say the rocks in the cave are the same color as it would be on the surface.

 

 

 

I personaly only se a round object in that picture. :P

 

Yea, as I'm a quest lover I've seen the thing that we THINK is the Stone of Jas in the cutscene.

 

I just find it very weird that they would place a large normal rock on their front page....

 

 

 

Anyways, Norwegians ftw! :thumbsup:

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Hmm, as a certified historian *cough* I must say Amundogus, that you jump to conclusions way too fast. The Ancient Page you were referring to is this one:

 

 

 

A momentary flash but I saw it! Hornless but the same deep crimson of its set-mates. A glorious thing to see, guarded by the creatures in the upper galleries. I must have it, I will have it!

 

 

 

Now I can see that you might interpret this as the Stone of Jas, but there are some things I don't get. Why does he call the Stone 'hornless'? And what are these 'setmates' he is referring to?

 

 

 

I think (and with me many others, looking at the replies) that you read this, got an idea and now you present this idea as if it was undenieable truth, the only logical outcome. Let me tell you, it is not. This sentence right here sums it all up nicely:

 

You meen the "It has the right shape, colour, location and look"-argument : But yea, I see your point.

 

You don't have any proof it's the right colour, now do you? You don't have any proof at all it's the right shape, do you? You don't have any proof at all it has the right look, do you? Well? Do you?

 

 

 

To me it looks like a Runecrafting Altar, because it's round like a Runecrafting altar, the same size as an ingame Runecrafting Altar and in a cave like multiple Runecrafting Altars. And that, my friend, was a good point I made with solid proof.

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Oh, right, thats the Ancient page. I agree that it doesn't look very convincing :oops: But there was a thread made by a forum mod on the RSOF where it didn't seem like there were much doubt about the colour of the Stone being crimson. He had other sources than just the Ancient page, but I cant remember them right now. But I thought we knew the Stone was circular? I thought that was kind of a given.... oh well, don't wanna go up against Hippodo :o I have seen enough of your posts to know that you are much more knowledgeable about this than I am :lol:

 

 

 

But about the RC altar theory, it doesn't really look like it has a flat top like the other altars. And it looks red/crimson, and most other altars have grey as the main colour. And I don't think a soul altar would be crimson... but you never know. Might be the light that is playing tricks on us :)

 

Well first of all thanks for the compliment :), finally some recognition :lol: . And I apologise if I was a bit harsh the last time. Your first few posts made me think I was talking to a headstrong kind of person, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

 

 

 

About the Forum Mod and his arguments, I honestly can't remember one book, text or tome in which the Stone of Jas was described crimson, but that doesn't mean I am right. I've done Meeting History as well, and I too have seen the strange rock floating in the middle of the screen. To me it seems logical that it is the Stone of Jas, looking at the context of the cutscene, but remember that this is still an assumption. Many assumptions are presented as facts, but facts can be proven, while assumptions are only thoughts made by one mind. You can see here that other people do not share your vision and some don't even see the rock at all!

 

 

 

Finally, regarding 'my' altar theory. Looking at it the right way I AM able to discover at least somewhat the same shape as an altar, including the flat top, but again that's just me. And furthermore, you must not confuse real colour with added colour. The picture is probably edited to make it more 'medieval-like', and so it blends in better with the rest of the site. It's all about the same brown/beige/gold kind of thing. So the object itself can be any colour in the world.

 

 

 

Anyway, this topic turned out quite nicely, and I enjoy reading it :

To clarify, the crimson, hornless object presented in the Ancient Page most probably refers to the DFH, which is crimson, and hornless, unlike the other pieces of dragon armour ;).

To clarify, the crimson, hornless object presented in the Ancient Page most probably refers to the DFH, which is crimson, and hornless, unlike the other pieces of dragon armour ;).

 

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Aaargh I'm blind!! #-o And you sir, are a freaking genius! =D>

I do personally believe that the picture there is just there to make the game look cooler. It's not any mystical relic from the past of RS, it's just a button. I seriously don't think Jagex would put the stone of Jas into a button.

 

But you never know with Jagex...

I do personally believe that the picture there is just there to make the game look cooler. It's not any mystical relic from the past of RS, it's just a button. I seriously don't think Jagex would put the stone of Jas into a button.

 

But you never know with Jagex...

 

by clicking on runescape you are releasing a great power :)

After taking a closer look, I say its a globe made out of wood, and a candle shining light on it from behind the goblin.

 

 

 

Take a look for yourself and think about what I said:

 

 

 

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to me its looks like a lava-ish random render that fits in with the main page style

May I ask where, in Meeting History, do you see the stone?

May I ask where, in Meeting History, do you see the stone?

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC00nJ5n9XQ

 

 

 

2:24 - 2:29

May I ask where, in Meeting History, do you see the stone?

 

the cut scene at the end I think, where you see Guthix speaking to the family

May I ask where, in Meeting History, do you see the stone?

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC00nJ5n9XQ

 

 

 

2:24 - 2:29

 

 

 

Worth noting its not confirmed to be the stone.

 

 

 

But given its in a cutscene about the making of runes and magic and we know they were created using the stone of jas it is a highly likely assumption it is

May I ask where, in Meeting History, do you see the stone?

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC00nJ5n9XQ

 

 

 

2:24 - 2:29

 

 

 

Worth noting its not confirmed to be the stone.

 

 

 

True, for all we know, it could just be the fist of guthix.

 

(Because the pattern on the cutscene stone matches the fist of guthix one.)

Ignore this post :D

May I ask where, in Meeting History, do you see the stone?

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC00nJ5n9XQ

 

 

 

2:24 - 2:29

 

 

 

Worth noting its not confirmed to be the stone.

 

 

 

True, for all we know, it could just be the fist of guthix.

 

(Because the pattern on the cutscene stone matches the fist of guthix one.)

 

 

 

true true very true.

 

 

 

Thou fact the fist dips down and the stone is round more likely fist is somewhere the stone has been hit down or dropped.

 

 

 

But equally all we know the stone and the fist are the same thing

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Hmm, as a certified historian *cough* I must say Amundogus, that you jump to conclusions way too fast. The Ancient Page you were referring to is this one:

 

 

 

A momentary flash but I saw it! Hornless but the same deep crimson of its set-mates. A glorious thing to see, guarded by the creatures in the upper galleries. I must have it, I will have it!

 

 

 

Now I can see that you might interpret this as the Stone of Jas, but there are some things I don't get. Why does he call the Stone 'hornless'? And what are these 'setmates' he is referring to?

 

 

 

I think (and with me many others, looking at the replies) that you read this, got an idea and now you present this idea as if it was undenieable truth, the only logical outcome. Let me tell you, it is not. This sentence right here sums it all up nicely:

 

You meen the "It has the right shape, colour, location and look"-argument : But yea, I see your point.

 

You don't have any proof it's the right colour, now do you? You don't have any proof at all it's the right shape, do you? You don't have any proof at all it has the right look, do you? Well? Do you?

 

 

 

To me it looks like a Runecrafting Altar, because it's round like a Runecrafting altar, the same size as an ingame Runecrafting Altar and in a cave like multiple Runecrafting Altars. And that, my friend, was a good point I made with solid proof.

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Oh, right, thats the Ancient page. I agree that it doesn't look very convincing :oops: But there was a thread made by a forum mod on the RSOF where it didn't seem like there were much doubt about the colour of the Stone being crimson. He had other sources than just the Ancient page, but I cant remember them right now. But I thought we knew the Stone was circular? I thought that was kind of a given.... oh well, don't wanna go up against Hippodo :o I have seen enough of your posts to know that you are much more knowledgeable about this than I am :lol:

 

 

 

But about the RC altar theory, it doesn't really look like it has a flat top like the other altars. And it looks red/crimson, and most other altars have grey as the main colour. And I don't think a soul altar would be crimson... but you never know. Might be the light that is playing tricks on us :)

 

Well first of all thanks for the compliment :), finally some recognition :lol: . And I apologise if I was a bit harsh the last time. Your first few posts made me think I was talking to a headstrong kind of person, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

 

 

 

About the Forum Mod and his arguments, I honestly can't remember one book, text or tome in which the Stone of Jas was described crimson, but that doesn't mean I am right. I've done Meeting History as well, and I too have seen the strange rock floating in the middle of the screen. To me it seems logical that it is the Stone of Jas, looking at the context of the cutscene, but remember that this is still an assumption. Many assumptions are presented as facts, but facts can be proven, while assumptions are only thoughts made by one mind. You can see here that other people do not share your vision and some don't even see the rock at all!

 

 

 

Finally, regarding 'my' altar theory. Looking at it the right way I AM able to discover at least somewhat the same shape as an altar, including the flat top, but again that's just me. And furthermore, you must not confuse real colour with added colour. The picture is probably edited to make it more 'medieval-like', and so it blends in better with the rest of the site. It's all about the same brown/beige/gold kind of thing. So the object itself can be any colour in the world.

 

 

 

Anyway, this topic turned out quite nicely, and I enjoy reading it :

 

Apology accepted : I think this should become more of a discussion about what the stone in the picture could possibly be, rather than a discussion about whether it's the Stone of Jas or not. Good idea? I will need a mod to change the title though.

After taking a closer look, I say its a globe made out of wood, and a candle shining light on it from behind the goblin.

 

 

 

Take a look for yourself and think about what I said:

 

 

 

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It does look sort of like a globe :o But why would a huge globe be lying down in a cavern? :) I still think there is something more special about that stone.

 

True, for all we know, it could just be the fist of guthix.

 

(Because the pattern on the cutscene stone matches the fist of guthix one.)

 

 

 

true true very true.

 

 

 

Thou fact the fist dips down and the stone is round more likely fist is somewhere the stone has been hit down or dropped.

 

 

 

But equally all we know the stone and the fist are the same thing

 

 

 

Can't remember where I heard it (somewhere on tif, cba to find the quote), but supposedly FoG is the site of a Saradominist camp that had the Stone of Jas in its possession during the Godwars (which in turn, was supposedly for control of this powerful relic). After Guthix stopped the war, he tried and failed to destroy the stone (but in the process he obliterated the camp). Instead, an imprint of the stone's power and some of Guthix's remained; which is the fist itself. If all of that is true then if anything the pattern of the FoG only serves to prove that the stone showed in the cutscene is, in fact, the Stone of Jas.

 

True, for all we know, it could just be the fist of guthix.

 

(Because the pattern on the cutscene stone matches the fist of guthix one.)

 

 

 

true true very true.

 

 

 

Thou fact the fist dips down and the stone is round more likely fist is somewhere the stone has been hit down or dropped.

 

 

 

But equally all we know the stone and the fist are the same thing

 

 

 

Can't remember where I heard it (somewhere on tif, cba to find the quote), but supposedly FoG is the site of a Saradominist camp that had the Stone of Jas in its possession during the Godwars (which in turn, was supposedly for control of this powerful relic). After Guthix stopped the war, he tried and failed to destroy the stone (but in the process he obliterated the camp). Instead, an imprint of the stone's power and some of Guthix's remained; which is the fist itself. If all of that is true then if anything the pattern of the FoG only serves to prove that the stone showed in the cutscene is, in fact, the Stone of Jas.

 

Hmm, I've heard of this theory before, but this is the first time it contained a 'Saradomin camp'. Would make sense though... :-k

 

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Yes, that explains the numerous Saradomin symbols on the pillars in the Fog cave! I never really figured that one out... And yes, I think the Godwars (partly/mostly) revolved around the Stone of Jas, as the Oracle said: 'The god wars are over...as long as the thing they were fighting over remains hidden'. Some think the Oracle talks about the Godsword here, but I'm not sure... Can't the Saradominist Icyene just destroy it (and maybe secretly make another one)? No, I think the item they were fighting over was much more that a sword, even as powerful as this. You don't mobilise entire races and destroy continents for just one weapon. they fought over something bigger, more powerful. Something which had the power to create (and destroy...) the very elements of this world; magic, life, the Anima Mundi...

 

 

 

Hey, maybe Lucien wants the Stone of Jas so that Zamorak can finish off Zaros once and for all! Zamorak lives in constant fear of Zaros, because he isn't gone for real, only banished. Even the mention of his name could give him enough power to break free and chase Zamorak the Betrayer to the end of the Cosmos. What great ideas a topic like this can give me :) .

 

True, for all we know, it could just be the fist of guthix.

 

(Because the pattern on the cutscene stone matches the fist of guthix one.)

 

 

 

true true very true.

 

 

 

Thou fact the fist dips down and the stone is round more likely fist is somewhere the stone has been hit down or dropped.

 

 

 

But equally all we know the stone and the fist are the same thing

 

 

 

Can't remember where I heard it (somewhere on tif, cba to find the quote), but supposedly FoG is the site of a Saradominist camp that had the Stone of Jas in its possession during the Godwars (which in turn, was supposedly for control of this powerful relic). After Guthix stopped the war, he tried and failed to destroy the stone (but in the process he obliterated the camp). Instead, an imprint of the stone's power and some of Guthix's remained; which is the fist itself. If all of that is true then if anything the pattern of the FoG only serves to prove that the stone showed in the cutscene is, in fact, the Stone of Jas.

 

Hmm, I've heard of this theory before, but this is the first time it contained a 'Saradomin camp'. Would make sense though... :-k

 

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Yes, that explains the numerous Saradomin symbols on the pillars in the Fog cave! I never really figured that one out... And yes, I think the Godwars (partly/mostly) revolved around the Stone of Jas, as the Oracle said: 'The god wars are over...as long as the thing they were fighting over remains hidden'. Some think the Oracle talks about the Godsword here, but I'm not sure... Can't the Saradominist Icyene just destroy it (and maybe secretly make another one)? No, I think the item they were fighting over was much more that a sword, even as powerful as this. You don't mobilise entire races and destroy continents for just one weapon. they fought over something bigger, more powerful. Something which had the power to create (and destroy...) the very elements of this world; magic, life, the Anima Mundi...

 

 

 

Hey, maybe Lucien wants the Stone of Jas so that Zamorak can finish off Zaros once and for all! Zamorak lives in constant fear of Zaros, because he isn't gone for real, only banished. Even the mention of his name could give him enough power to break free and chase Zamorak the Betrayer to the end of the Cosmos. What great ideas a topic like this can give me :) .

 

I salute you :o Thats pretty interesting. But can you explain what an "Icyene" is? I seem to remember that they have something with the Godsword to do, but I can't seem to remember what...

To clarify, the crimson, hornless object presented in the Ancient Page most probably refers to the DFH, which is crimson, and hornless, unlike the other pieces of dragon armour ;).

 

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...

 

 

 

 

 

........ :shock:

 

 

 

Aaargh I'm blind!! #-o And you sir, are a freaking genius! =D>

 

...But it does have horns...

 

 

[Credits to darkjab for the avatar]

That's a pretty big stretch to call that the Stone of Jas.

 

 

 

Honestly, if I squint, it looks more like a Runecrafting Altar than anything else.

To clarify, the crimson, hornless object presented in the Ancient Page most probably refers to the DFH, which is crimson, and hornless, unlike the other pieces of dragon armour ;).

 

..

 

 

 

...

 

 

 

 

 

........ :shock:

 

 

 

Aaargh I'm blind!! #-o And you sir, are a freaking genius! =D>

 

...But it does have horns...

 

 

[Credits to darkjab for the avatar]

 

 

 

Those are more [bleep]es than horns. Horns tend to be the largest chunk of bone on your head, and be on the top of your skull.

Am i the only one that sees nothing but the two buttons and a circular shape between them?

 

 

 

I'm really not buying into all this hype when...well...its the play rs buttons.