l0l0lpur34 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Of course not, simply because of the human trafficking etc behind it - "decriminalising, regulating and taxing" it would just make this problem worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 So regulating the industry, making it accountable to government agencies and turning it into a source of revenue for the government would make the human trafficking aspect worse? I'd like to hear the logic behind that one. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0l0lpur34 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Only a small fraction of the prostitution which goes on would be "registered" with the government and the stuff which does legally go on would be used as a place to "recruit" for the "unregistered" (illegal) stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Just like how decriminalising and regulating the sale of alcohol has led to a rise in alcohol smuggling, right? Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnIIx Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Its legal in NZ and from what i've heard, the implementation of said law has led to the decline of the quality of prostitutes as any fugly witch can advertise themselves. I New Zealand. Half are fugly witch'es tho :'( Current goal: Legends, Regicide, Roving Elf's, Barrows RFD, 95+ Attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1991 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Of course not, simply because of the human trafficking etc behind it - "decriminalising, regulating and taxing" it would just make this problem worse. Even if you were right about this, which you aren't, what is your view on the freedom standpoint? Why should women not have the freedom to have sex for money? Is it the role of government to tell you what you can and cannot do to yourself/with others in a consensual relationship? If I govern myself and choose to do something to myself, yet for this the government uses force and coercion against me to lock me in a cell, how is this not tyranny? The only possible justification you could have would be saying that the majority can decide what you can and cannot do to your own body, which is basically the same as saying "the majority owns you." Hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_love_burritos Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Most of you are presenting the argument that: Its "my" body and its "my" right. Freedom presides over "correctness". Again, who are you to say, what other people can or cant do, what code they live by. Conversely, it is my body and thus my right to commit an act of... How can you judge what impact this has on someone's life. How can you determine whether this is safe [i' putting this up because many of you are saying its entirely safe.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 They are providing a service to meet demand. It is the consumer's choice to take whatever risks that service might entail. Nobody forces clients to have sex with prostitutes, in the same way that nobody forces anyone to drink alcohol or smoke tobacco. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_love_burritos Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 They are providing a service to meet demand. It is the consumer's choice to take whatever risks that service might entail. Nobody forces clients to have sex with prostitutes, in the same way that nobody forces anyone to drink alcohol or smoke tobacco. True, but you can't really say in which situation these people are in. Maybe they do it because they are poor. Although no forces you to have sex, however you can't compare sex with a complete stranger to drinking or smoking. It's on an entirley different scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Maybe people clean toilets for a living because they are poor. Should we make that illegal as well? Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 It *should* be legal. Imagine all the STDs you'll spare people if there was a proper system for being a pimp. Health check ups, safety precautions, etc. I'll never consider using a prostitute, but I can understand why people would want it. :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 True, but you can't really say in which situation these people are in. Maybe they do it because they are poor. Although no forces you to have sex, however you can't compare sex with a complete stranger to drinking or smoking. It's on an entirley different scale. Why can't you compare sex with smoking? :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecold638 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't think so, it will spread stds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgedThesis Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Institutionalized prostitution sounds good-- it can be taxed, safety measures can be kicked in, and there will be a lot less underground business in which laws cannot enforce business deals and anything can happen. Several of you fear that such an act will reduce the sanctity of sex--and this is true. It will suddenly be commercialized, a supply to meet a biological demand rather than a union of two personalities into one loving act. But the atmosphere around the subject of sex has already changed to this in several developed countries. Sex is now an event rather than a physical manifestation of love, and many other countries are accelerating towards this viewpoint as well. As soon as prostitution is mandated by government, it's just a signal that this societal idea has reached it's final stages. But I don't want to go among mad people!Oh, you can't help that. We're all mad here..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0l0lpur34 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Of course not, simply because of the human trafficking etc behind it - "decriminalising, regulating and taxing" it would just make this problem worse. Even if you were right about this, which you aren't, what is your view on the freedom standpoint? Why should women not have the freedom to have sex for money? Is it the role of government to tell you what you can and cannot do to yourself/with others in a consensual relationship? If I govern myself and choose to do something to myself, yet for this the government uses force and coercion against me to lock me in a cell, how is this not tyranny? The only possible justification you could have would be saying that the majority can decide what you can and cannot do to your own body, which is basically the same as saying "the majority owns you." Normally I'd agree with this but it's very rarely "women using freedom to have sex for money". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1991 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Of course not, simply because of the human trafficking etc behind it - "decriminalising, regulating and taxing" it would just make this problem worse. Even if you were right about this, which you aren't, what is your view on the freedom standpoint? Why should women not have the freedom to have sex for money? Is it the role of government to tell you what you can and cannot do to yourself/with others in a consensual relationship? If I govern myself and choose to do something to myself, yet for this the government uses force and coercion against me to lock me in a cell, how is this not tyranny? The only possible justification you could have would be saying that the majority can decide what you can and cannot do to your own body, which is basically the same as saying "the majority owns you." Normally I'd agree with this but it's very rarely "women using freedom to have sex for money". What is your point? Because a lot of them are trafficked/forced into it (which bear in mind is increased by forcing the practice into the criminal underground), people shouldn't have the freedom to do whatever they want to themselves? Just from a freedom standpoint, the state doesn't have the justification to tell you what you can and cannot do to yourself. Hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I would never consider doing it, but, some people have lower standards than me. Why not? Some girl in England, in just a few months (she was in high school. like 16 or 17, I think), made over 30000 in something like two months selling herself. I don't think it should be legal for under 18's but, if someone is willing to do it, and they play their cards right, they could make more money than most normal people in normal jobs. Again, I wouldn't do it, but who am I to say what people should be allowed to do? Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_love_burritos Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Maybe people clean toilets for a living because they are poor. Should we make that illegal as well? You dont' lose [too much of] your dignity in that profession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Maybe people clean toilets for a living because they are poor. Should we make that illegal as well? You dont' lose [too much of] your dignity in that profession Who says prostitutes have no dignity? :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_love_burritos Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Well they are selling their bodies to make a quick buck. Aside from that, their moral compass is astray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nenga Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Well they are selling their bodies to make a quick buck. Aside from that, their moral compass is astray.Who are you to say what is moral? Everyone has different morals so to make them obey only one is a form of control, isn't it? Ponies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 ^Well, a moral is a personal thing, but seriously, selling your body for money is something you should be ashamed of.. >.> Also, seriously, if prostitution was legal everywhere, I think the risk of AIDS and HIV (etc) will (obviously) rise by a-helluva-lot. So the government would step in and: a) Illegalise it B) Make government run brothels. lol. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nenga Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 You should be ashamed if you do a lot of things: murder arson (fire!!! :twisted:) framing people embezzling torture working at a fast food restaurant etc but sex? It's natural. That's like me coming up to you and saying "you can no longer use your right hand at a job". You do get payed for using your hands at a job and it's as natural as sex is. Ponies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Well they are selling their bodies to make a quick buck. Aside from that, their moral compass is astray.Who are you to say what is moral? Everyone has different morals so to make them obey only one is a form of control, isn't it? True, but prostitution is generally looked upon as immoral. After all if we start claiming morality is entirely subjective we go down that nice road I call "why cant I kill anyone I want" road. Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 You should be ashamed if you do a lot of things: murder arson (fire!!! :twisted:) framing people embezzling torture working at a fast food restaurant etc but sex? It's natural. That's like me coming up to you and saying "you can no longer use your right hand at a job". You do get payed for using your hands at a job and it's as natural as sex is. Bolded =lol. Italic = misread ;p. Well, that *is* your opinion. I'm not against it or anything, but selling sex is really kinda low. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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