Has Slayer become a skill for high combat levels?

[IHasChicken]

I have just restarted my membership after a near year long hiatus from runescape, and was looking for something I can do to give me a good taste of what members has to offer. Being a combat lover, I decided to get into slayer as my first members only skill I would raise, and am so far loving it, getting my slayer from 1 to 53 atm in about 3 days :thumbsup:

 

 

 

I am not a particularly high leveled player (Level 98, with 33 summoning - am enjoying that too, but that's a different story,) but I can handle myself around the various slayer monsters relatively well. However, everywhere I go, whether it be fire giants, basilisks or bloodvelds, all I see are quite a few level 120's and 130's with slayer helmets, sara swords, bandos and godswords - and no one else really around my level. Now this is not a rant, flaming all of these high levels for stealing my kills and not giving me a fair go - there are always plenty of monsters to go around. What does concern me is the lack of people my level at these slayer hotspots.

 

 

 

Is there really no low levelled slayers left in the world? Has the generation of lower levels been repelled by these high levelled people? Or are all of these high levelled people hardcore slayers who have started off where I am, with 30 slayer points to their name, and a whip in their hand, and have patiently done task, after task until they can wear the fancy slayer helmets, and make enough money off loot to afford their bandos and sara swords.

 

 

 

It really does not matter to me - I love the initial impression that slayer gives me, and can't wait to carve up some turoths for their clue-y goodness when I hit 55 slayer (after this bloodveld task, of course. They keep giving me 3 blood rune drops :evil: :evil: :evil:

 

 

 

BTW, you can all lol at my lack of avatar and sig - I've just signed up and are still figuring it all out :wall:

[Kellis]

I'm your level, and I do slayer all the time . . .

 

 

 

Probably what you're noticing is the slower experience phenomenon - it is far faster to gain levels in attack, strength, and defense than in slayer. Many people who started slayer after already being a fairly high combat level have zoomed up in combat levels, while their slayer level grew only slowly. Now they're high levels, as you're noticing, but they need to fight these lower monsters to increase their slayer.

 

 

 

Also, one way to accumulate slayer points more quickly is to use a lower levelled master for most of the tasks, then switch to a higher levelled one for the tasks on which you receive bonus points. These high levels may be doing this, "farming" for slayer points. Also, slayer monsters do have good drops, and a high level can go through them pretty fast to get those drops quickly.

[langer]

Slayer used to be one of the best way to make a combination of combat XP and money. This isn't the case anymore. There are faster way to gain both on select monsters. Aviansies and armored zombies are amongst those monsters.

 

Some players train combat for other purposes than gainind levels. Hence they ignore slayer in their training and get back to it when they feel they don't need to train combat efficiently anymore or just get bored.

[Fairness]

Hey, I don't have an avatar either. That's not because I don't know how, though :P

 

 

 

Like everything, Slayer advances too as time passes in RuneScape 2. Everything will slowly become dominated by higher levels, 70 [insert skill] here is not worth to mention at all now, you're expected to have a whip as soon as you can equip it, etc.

[IHasChicken]

So, the general message I'm getting is that many people are deciding to hold off slayer until they have a high enough combat level?

 

 

 

If so, then that's really the exact point of my post, that there are an abundance of higher levels at low to medium levelled monsters such as jellies and bloodvelds and spiritual mages (if you can actually find it through all of the other dribble I put down :roll:

 

 

 

EDIT: Ment infernal mages. Boy, things can sure get confusing in runescape

[Zierro]

The general status of the Runescape community - as a whole - will always be progressing. Eventually it won't be too uncommon to see maxed out players anymore. But of course, there is a counter to this. High leveled players quit all the time.

[IHasChicken]

So far I've heard a lot of discussion about the advancement of people in runescape, and the general increase in the mean level of the players - and that's just fine and dandy :thumbsup:

 

 

 

However, the other part of my question was about the relative lack of new slayers. Sure, if the whole population was generally increasing in level faster than the number of new recruits, it would be expected to see a jump in the number of higher levelled people within skills such as slayer. However, I personally believe that there should not be a jump of such magnitude as I am seeing. I guess the general question should be changed to where are all of the lower levelled players in slayer? Where are all of the unfunded pures who use slayer as a means to both train, and to provide themselves with income before they jump into the wild world of pking? Are they down killing the avianses, or the dragons, or something else completely unrelated to slayer? Where are all of the new members like me, who only got so far in f2p and are looking for something new in members? I don't know, maybe i'm just ignorant, running around with my fingers in my eyes and closing my ears (wait, wrong way round :lol: ) and there is a whole host of lower levelled slayers that I have not heard from? Who knows?

[Zierro]

I think they are just doing other things. Personally I didn't really "start" training Slayer until around 90 Combat. The higher your combat skills are, the easier Slayer Xp will be to acquire so I think people are overall just too impatient to do Slayer with restricted combat abilities.

[IHasChicken]

I see where you are coming from Zierro, and I do tend to agree with you partly. However, I disagree with the fact that you refer to the pures as having restricted combat abilites. I mean, come on, all you need for slayer is a bow, a staff, or a sword, and you're set. The slayer skill also has many different trainers and even within the trainers, in my opinion, the tasks adjust themself to both the slayer levels and combat levels of the people undertaking them. I'm level 98, and I have not had anything harder than a bloodveld in 10 tasks (i'm using Sumona, btw,) and I've made a mill at least from all of the herbs and half keys and pure essences and nature runes and rune items and all of the other general slayer drops. It is definitely appealing enough to the lower levelled players, so where the heck are they? :? :? :?

[Zierro]

I didn't mean pures, I meant people who have a hard time killing monsters as fast as us high levels. Plus pures are almost extinct nowadays and for those who do exist, most prefer PVP over Skilling.

[F0TH]

This may seem a little bit sterotypical, however i believe that the higer level players have a longer attention span (on the whole). They have spent the time developing their other skills, and trying most things on the game. Meaning that there are fewer distractions for them, allowing them to stick at slayer for a longer period of time.

 

 

 

The lower level players however, will try many other things before comiting to one skill (in most cases). This usually means that they will gain combat experience and usually kill non-slayer monsters/camp for alot of their experince. This means that they only really begin to slay seriously when they get to a higher level, this would explain what you, and also I experience while slaying.

[The_Maddest]

In my month of members this summer I found the opposite to you :P . I saw that just about EVERY P2Per, regardless of level trained combat with slayer.

[Sir_Redhead]

To tell you the trush, i have noticed that. Most all I see are in the 90's, unless it is one of those weaker assignments, I see many lower levels. But, this is just what I see :shock:

[Miner52289]

Slayer points are one of the huge incentives for slayer. Once you have the slayer helmet and have bought all the useless abilities, blocked 4 tasks, the only thing to spend points on are Slayer Dart runes, basically for 35 points you get 80k.

 

 

 

Before Smoking Kills, you couldn't block tasks, didn't get slayer points, and pretty much the tasks sucked. This just shows that great improvements on 'dead' skills can revive them altogether.

[Viv]

i think i agree with the high levels training slayer thing completely

 

 

 

i started slay from 1 at level 76 and then at 93 almost 94 slay i had maxed all my melees and then a few months later i decided to go for 99 slayer and gather charms for summoning

 

 

 

charms is another reason you see higher levels slaying i think i got charms for 80-92 summoning getting 99 slayer(waiting b4 getting 92)

 

 

 

when i was slaying at your level i always saw level 110+ with me(summon wasnt out yet)

 

 

 

and when i was slaying til 99s i saw other 130s with me

 

 

 

slayer is a very very very very long skill probably the longest in the game so alot of players put slayer til later when they are happy with their other skills and can be content with the speed but most put it ahead of alot of the less fun skills because they had trained combat w/ slayer in the past.

 

 

 

so anyway most of the low levels are off doing quest, training on bandits or another monster, training noncombat skills to a decent level most people dont really stick to slay until happy with thier current skills.

[Seraphyna]

It seems to me that post people want fast xp as opposed to efficient training (meaning effectively training 3 skills at once with slayer). People want the fast levels, the fast 99s in combat, so they train on the fast xp...not slayer.

 

 

 

The other theory is that people want money. Slayer isn't great for money at low levels, though some lower levelled tasks do drop some pretty decent items. I notice that people often say they'll lose money training slayer because of the pots and food so they train on other things instead of getting a slayer level where they will make good money.

[liuqi007]

I've trained my combats skills solely on slayer. i'm 50k from 99 att, str and def each :D.

 

Training slayer is much more than training just one single skill. I'm training combat, gathering charms for summoning and money for skilling all at the same time. In my opinion. It is pointless to have 13m xp in a combat skill before you decide to train slayer, and end up with 25m xp when you hit 99. It is just a waste of time.

 

I train slayer because I believe it is one of the most effective way of leveling many skills.

[killerbeer0]

I slay a lot at 96 cb. Almost 70 slayer now, and my combat wont be rising much as I range exclusively.

[Obtaurian]

I have not read any of the replies. I would just like to say that I started Slayer around 70 combat, and I fell in love with it. I think it's great that you're slaying at your level. Keep it up.

[Reded]

Well I started slayer at a fairly low combat (About 50, I couldn't even afford a Rune set :D) And although it'd be a lie to say I've trained everything since on Slayer, I really can't say I've used any other methods for very long.

 

 

 

High levels seem to just train Slayer for 'Free Whips' and just end up camping Abyssal Demons to max their combats and try to make lots of profit from it... I always found this strange, as Demons never seem to drop whips for me :P

 

 

 

So yeah, maybe the high levels you're seeing at all the spots are the sort that have been at Slayer since they were too, a lower combat level. Or maybe they're just bored of camping Dagganoths and want to try Abyssal Demons :P Who knows?

[zotto]

I couldn't start slayer at a very 'low' level since slayer hadn't been released yet.

 

 

 

I never see lower levels because I use the highest slayer master.

 

 

 

I used to be one of the lowest levels always at the abyssal demons. I remember that well. All the people had higher combat and better equipment.

 

 

 

But now I progressed with slayer and I have become one of 'them'.

[Viv]

I couldn't start slayer at a very 'low' level since slayer hadn't been released yet.

 

 

 

I never see lower levels because I use the highest slayer master.

 

 

 

I used to be one of the lowest levels always at the abyssal demons. I remember that well. All the people had higher combat and better equipment.

 

 

 

But now I progressed with slayer and I have become one of 'them'.

 

 

 

yah i know that feeling i got 85 at 111 and everyone at abysal demons was 120+(f2p) and i wondered howcome everyone was so high combat and now i'm one of them most dedicated players to the game are 130+ combat and mostly those are the ones that decide to train up thier slayer or stick to it for awhile and low levels that do slayer dont stay low very long. getting 74-85 slay i got 103-111 cb in f2p and when i finally reached 99 i had 136 combat :).

[Slayer_Jesse]

I'm high combat BECAUSE of slayer. i dont see many lower lvls anymore. however, i dont hang at the low level tasks either, lol. when i do see a lower lvl, i feel compelled to share my knowledge with them

[Outsanity]

The general population of Runescape is always training something at all times. Slayer has notoriously been known to be one of the hardest (some say THE hardest) skill to get 99 in, or experience in general for that matter.

 

 

 

However, with time comes the inevitable. People are growing in level. Some faster than others and some slower. The higher leveled slayers used to be few in numbers, because they powertrained all the way to those levels. They did nothing else, or they did it quickly. Meanwhile, people in the 60s or less slowly trained or seldomly trained. Now, with time, those slow trainers have managed to rack up enough exp to become higher leveled.

 

 

 

Let me put it to you this way. When I got 85 Slayer, 3,500 people had the level. Now, with 97 Slayer, 3,500 people have my exp. I got 85 slayer probably over a year ago, and in that year, I've gotten 97 but my rank is no higher than it was a year ago due to the many people training.

[Alg]

I'd think another reason would be that a lower level can't complete the same tasks in the same places as a higher level. I'm 98 or so f2p and I couldn't do a metal dragon task, for example, as well as the 127 player that also has the task: I'd probably have burthroped it if it wasn't for points. Higher slayer masters might also be a factor: one can take a task from Shilo Village, that doesn't always mean that one is a high enough level to do it effectively.

 

 

 

But then, I can't say I know much about it, I don't like slayer.