While reading, keep in mind the ever-mutating list of myths surrounding the polyphasic sleep schedule:

 

 

 

most animals are polyphasic and so must be humans

 

adaptation period is hard but it ends at some point

 

polyphasic sleep saves you time

 

polyphasic naps are REM-only

 

you are more alert if you sleep polyphasically

 

you are more productive if you sleep polyphasically

 

you lose weight on the polyphasic sleep schedule (opposite may happen)

 

polyphasic sleep is healthy

 

long naps are bad for you

 

many naps are better than one nap even if you are not sleep deprived (see FAQ for more)

 

Claudio Stampi recommends polyphasic sleep to everyone

 

polyphasic sleep maximizes the amount of REM an individual gets

 

http://www.supermemo.com/articles/polyp ... ightenment

 

 

 

I like this site. It seems to for the most part support polyphasic sleep, but at the same time it is very unbiased. This is a much better read than those blogs you're offering.

 

 

 

Ah, debates. I feel young again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Helping astronauts nap was the goal of a recent series of experiments funded by NASA in cooperation with the National Space Biomedical Research Institute. In those experiments, led by David Dinges, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, 91 volunteers spent 10 days living on one of 18 different sleep schedules, all in a laboratory setting. The sleep schedules combined various amounts of "anchor sleep," ranging from about 4 to 8 hours in length, with daily naps of 0 to 2.5 hours.

 

 

 

To measure how effective the naps were, the scientists gave the volunteers a battery of tests probing memory, alertness, response time, and other cognitive skills throughout the experiment. They also measured things like core body temperature and hormone levels in blood and saliva, all of which fluctuate in a natural daily cycle known as a person's "biological clock."

 

 

 

They also found that some cognitive functions benefited more from napping than others:

 

 

 

"To our amazement, working memory performance benefited from the naps, [but] vigilance and basic alertness did not benefit very much," says Dinges.

This suggests that another polyphasic system works.

 

if i'm understanding that right they actually got 4-8 hours of sleep plus naps so it sounds like its further contradicting your theory.

 

My theory is that polyphasic sleep can work in a way that allows your body to gain the energy it needs in under 8 hours with few side effects. This supports my theory with some astronauts gettin 4 hours of sleep.

Sleeping for 2 hours? hell no!

 

I enjoy my sleep so much, it what gets me through the day. After I'm out of bed I'm like kapow! kapow! I'll wake up the house by singing loudly. Ofcourse 20 minutes later when I'm at school, Ill be bored stiff.

 

But man do I love my dreams, I like the ones where you think youve gone through a day of your life and you go back to sleep.

 

But I haven't any strange dreams because I can't stop think about this girl :wall:

I have to account for your biases against bloggers now? I'm really quite annoyed with you Quoi, you seem determined to point out a flaw in every post. If you don't believe this then thats fine, but please leave this thread alone. I don't have time to gallivant across the web searching for articles that you will accept.

 

 

 

It's been said, but bloggers are not good sources. Much worse than an uncited wiki page. This isn't some opinion on sleep, it's a scientific argument, start treating it like one. Don't get mad at me for pointing out faults.

 

 

 

 

My theory is that polyphasic sleep can work in a way that allows your body to gain the energy it needs in under 8 hours with few side effects. This supports my theory with some astronauts gettin 4 hours of sleep.

 

Some people naturally sleep for less time than others. For example, Bill Clinton was well known to sleep very little, but the average person is not Bill Clinton nor an astronaut.

I would try this.. If it weren't for having insomnia. Insomnia means I usually don't get to sleep for at least an hour once I get in bed, even at 2 in the morning. So trying to take a nap in the middle of the day, won't work.

 

 

 

I too have insomnia, sometimes I lie there for 2 hours before nodding off, yet I am capable at taking short naps through the day and then being more alert and energised than if I had slept for 8 hours

I would try this.. If it weren't for having insomnia. Insomnia means I usually don't get to sleep for at least an hour once I get in bed, even at 2 in the morning. So trying to take a nap in the middle of the day, won't work.

 

 

 

I too have insomnia, sometimes I lie there for 2 hours before nodding off, yet I am capable at taking short naps through the day and then being more alert and energised than if I had slept for 8 hours

 

 

 

How old are both of you? Back when I was in high school about 4 years ago it would take ~2hrs every night to get to sleep. Now however it usually only takes an hour. Do you exercise? That can help you go to sleep quicker. I didn't and still don't exercise, but I do a manual labour job so it kind of counts.

Kramer has,in my mind,proven it is not very good to sleep in such a pattern.I'm usually up till 5 in Singapore anyway.

 

 

 

Isn't 8 hours for little kids,6 or less will work for adults,no?

 

Isn't 8 hours for little kids,6 or less will work for adults,no?

 

 

 

No, 8 hours is the recommended minimum. It's higher when you're younger, levels off at 8 hours/night when you're in your "peak years" (as I like to call them), and raises slightly as you get older.

I'm just about ready to kill all these morons who can't be bothered to read the explanation behind this before attacking it with their incredible quantity of insufficient knowledge. Reb, read pages 2+3 on this page, this explains why it works. Then click on my links of experimentation with this, and go explain to the people who sleep like this that it doesn't work.

 

I would also like to note as the friendly narc that I was banned for a month in the past for making threats very similiar to this one.

 

Isn't 8 hours for little kids,6 or less will work for adults,no?

 

 

 

No, 8 hours is the recommended minimum. It's higher when you're younger, levels off at 8 hours/night when you're in your "peak years" (as I like to call them), and raises slightly as you get older.

 

Ideally the sleep for the average human who has not altered their sleep pattern would be 8 hours at night and a 1 hour nap(time can be altered) in the middle of the day, before I get yelled at for saying that this is ideal, this is the ideal sleep pattern as shown by numerous studies and tests and is not to be confused with polyphasic sleep, this is diphasic sleep.

Link to awesome experiment video:

 

 

 

http://vvi.onstreammedia.com/cgi-bin/visearch?user=pbs-saf&template=play220asf.html&query=sleep&squery=%2BClipID%3A5+%2BVideoAsset%3Apbssaf105&inputField=undefined&ccstart=2124726&ccend=2822889&videoID=pbssaf105

 

 

 

http://vvi.onstreammedia.com/cgi-bin/visearch?user=pbs-saf&template=play220asf.html&query=sleep&squery=%2BClipID%3A5+%2BVideoAsset%3Apbssaf105&inputField=undefined&ccstart=2124726&ccend=2822889&videoID=pbssaf105

Takes me around 30 minutes to fall asleep, more if I'm not tired. This wouldn't work for me, but if it were possible and kept me as awake as I am now with 6 hours of sleep a day I would totally go for it.

The point with this is that it doesn't fit in with an active social life. When you're used to such short naps you can't do anything else, so no sleeping with your girlfriend, no activities that take longer than 3,5 hours (or whatever is the interval for your naps) and much more cons. Ofcourse if you're only interested in productivity this is the way to go.

The point with this is that it doesn't fit in with an active social life. When you're used to such short naps you can't do anything else, so no sleeping with your girlfriend, no activities that take longer than 3,5 hours (or whatever is the interval for your naps) and much more cons. Ofcourse if you're only interested in productivity this is the way to go.

 

No, naps can be prolonged for as much as an hour and a half, you can sleep if with your girlfriend on occassion as a bonus sleep block, which is beneficial.

The point with this is that it doesn't fit in with an active social life. When you're used to such short naps you can't do anything else, so no sleeping with your girlfriend, no activities that take longer than 3,5 hours (or whatever is the interval for your naps) and much more cons. Ofcourse if you're only interested in productivity this is the way to go.

 

No, naps can be prolonged for as much as an hour and a half, you can sleep if with your girlfriend on occassion as a bonus sleep block, which is beneficial.

 

 

 

I'm sure that's exactly what your gf wants. Only being able to sleep together on occasion. And hell, it for an entire hour! :D

The point with this is that it doesn't fit in with an active social life. When you're used to such short naps you can't do anything else, so no sleeping with your girlfriend, no activities that take longer than 3,5 hours (or whatever is the interval for your naps) and much more cons. Ofcourse if you're only interested in productivity this is the way to go.

 

No, naps can be prolonged for as much as an hour and a half, you can sleep if with your girlfriend on occassion as a bonus sleep block, which is beneficial.

 

Look, you're a surgeon. I know you guys have it choca, but think of the regular person working 9-5. Can they honestly adjust their body clocks to a pattern like this? It's one way to get fired, I guess.

 

 

 

Imagine going out for drinks, and having a nap for an hour in the middle. It would kinda kill the mood. :|

 

 

 

This schedule just isn't compatible with how human society organises its working day.

The point with this is that it doesn't fit in with an active social life. When you're used to such short naps you can't do anything else, so no sleeping with your girlfriend, no activities that take longer than 3,5 hours (or whatever is the interval for your naps) and much more cons. Ofcourse if you're only interested in productivity this is the way to go.

 

No, naps can be prolonged for as much as an hour and a half, you can sleep if with your girlfriend on occassion as a bonus sleep block, which is beneficial.

 

 

 

I'm sure that's exactly what your gf wants. Only being able to sleep together on occasion. And hell, it for an entire hour! :D

 

deloria, I don't want you posting irrelevant things to this discussion, until you can do that please, stop posting.

 

 

 

On topic: So far studies have shown that the polyphasic sleep benefits very well from a sleep bonus, which is like a rare extra hour or two of sleep.

 

 

 

Ginger, a suggest you take a serious look at google, who encourages the occasional nap at work, studies show it increases a person's efficiency.

 

 

 

As for drinking, I don't see why you need to go out for more then 5 hours to get a drink, if you do then your liver is incompatible with this sleep regiment.

 

On topic: So far studies have shown that the polyphasic sleep benefits very well from a sleep bonus, which is like a rare extra hour or two of sleep.

 

So extra sleep benefits a person under a decreased sleep pattern?

 

 

 

Ginger, a suggest you take a serious look at google, who encourages the occasional nap at work, studies show it increases a person's efficiency.

 

Naps have been shown beneficial when used with normal sleep patterns.

Ginger, a suggest you take a serious look at google, who encourages the occasional nap at work, studies show it increases a person's efficiency.

 

You know what would also increase efficiency? Scraping the concept of a week. Seriously.

 

 

 

Studies show that workers are more likely to slack off on a Tuesday because psychologically the weekend seems ages away. So, scrap Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, and efficiency will improve ten-fold! :roll:

 

 

 

Some things, no matter how many studies are done, are just not practical.

Its ok,I know nothing about sleep.Somedays I get 2,somedays I get 20. :twss:

 

On topic: So far studies have shown that the polyphasic sleep benefits very well from a sleep bonus, which is like a rare extra hour or two of sleep.

 

So extra sleep benefits a person under a decreased sleep pattern?

 

 

 

Ginger, a suggest you take a serious look at google, who encourages the occasional nap at work, studies show it increases a person's efficiency.

 

Naps have been shown beneficial when used with normal sleep patterns.

 

Alright quoi, if you had watched the video I had posted you would have learned that if i test you before you start to sleep polyphasically and after your score will be about the same. If I give you an extra sleep chunk on the polyphasic sleep cycle your test results will be higher then before you started sleeping polyphasically.

 

 

 

ginger, naps are VERY practical even if you aren't a polyphasic sleeper, if you won't take my word for it look back a few pages until you see NASA's take on naps.

The point with this is that it doesn't fit in with an active social life. When you're used to such short naps you can't do anything else, so no sleeping with your girlfriend, no activities that take longer than 3,5 hours (or whatever is the interval for your naps) and much more cons. Ofcourse if you're only interested in productivity this is the way to go.

 

No, naps can be prolonged for as much as an hour and a half, you can sleep if with your girlfriend on occassion as a bonus sleep block, which is beneficial.

 

 

 

I'm sure that's exactly what your gf wants. Only being able to sleep together on occasion. And hell, it for an entire hour! :D

 

deloria, I don't want you posting irrelevant things to this discussion, until you can do that please, stop posting.

 

 

 

What I was posting was completely relevant as you, the OP, brought it up. Please refrain from making such accusations. Also, I refuse to stop posting here as it is my right to post in any open discussion I choose to. Thank you.

The point with this is that it doesn't fit in with an active social life. When you're used to such short naps you can't do anything else, so no sleeping with your girlfriend, no activities that take longer than 3,5 hours (or whatever is the interval for your naps) and much more cons. Ofcourse if you're only interested in productivity this is the way to go.

 

No, naps can be prolonged for as much as an hour and a half, you can sleep if with your girlfriend on occassion as a bonus sleep block, which is beneficial.

 

 

 

I'm sure that's exactly what your gf wants. Only being able to sleep together on occasion. And hell, it for an entire hour! :D

 

deloria, I don't want you posting irrelevant things to this discussion, until you can do that please, stop posting.

 

 

 

What I was posting was completely relevant as you, the OP, brought it up. Please refrain from making such accusations. Also, I refuse to stop posting here as it is my right to post in any open discussion I choose to. Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

Please refrain from talking about other people's girlfriends in a thread about sleep.

The point with this is that it doesn't fit in with an active social life. When you're used to such short naps you can't do anything else, so no sleeping with your girlfriend, no activities that take longer than 3,5 hours (or whatever is the interval for your naps) and much more cons. Ofcourse if you're only interested in productivity this is the way to go.

 

No, naps can be prolonged for as much as an hour and a half, you can sleep if with your girlfriend on occassion as a bonus sleep block, which is beneficial.

 

 

 

I'm sure that's exactly what your gf wants. Only being able to sleep together on occasion. And hell, it for an entire hour! :D

 

deloria, I don't want you posting irrelevant things to this discussion, until you can do that please, stop posting.

 

 

 

What I was posting was completely relevant as you, the OP, brought it up. Please refrain from making such accusations. Also, I refuse to stop posting here as it is my right to post in any open discussion I choose to. Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

Please refrain from talking about other people's girlfriends in a thread about sleep.

 

 

 

Please refrain from taking the topic astray and complaining when others follow your lead. And I would like to bring attention that my post was not only about girlfriends, but it also mentioned sleep. Thank you for fully reading my post before complaining about it.

deloriagod, for once in his life, had a point Maulmachine. But if you're so damned worked up about "productivity" (with a sleep schedule that, chances are, will not work the way you say it does) than it's no wonder you didn't get it. Or maybe you're just not old enough to get it yet, who knows.

 

 

 

 

 

ginger, naps are VERY practical even if you aren't a polyphasic sleeper, if you won't take my word for it look back a few pages until you see NASA's take on naps.

 

 

 

Stop spouting off the same crap, you didn't even read what he said. People are not going to just "take a nap" in the middle of the work day. Not only would some professions deem that impossible but pretty much any profession is not going to allow that, especially not two 20-30 minute naps in one day, every day.