Slayer and Duradel tasks

[Misterknowitall]

I think everyone in this thread is completely missing the pointt he OP was making.

 

He was complaining that he cancelled a task got a new one and it was the same monster he just cancelled. Logically, it shouldn't happen. He is not asking whether black demons are good or not and he is not complaining that it is possible to get the same moster several times in a row. Like I said, he is saying that after cancelling a monster logically the next monster should not be the monster you just cancelled.

 

 

 

Maybe it is not a bug, but it sure as hell doesn't make much sense.

 

 

 

Yes it can.

 

Assignments are given at random, so the possibility that you get the same task after canceling is there.

 

And with few slayer monsters to give it might happen a lot with Duradel/Lapalok/Disciple of the Devourer(whoever you like) .

[Viv]

well before smoking kills we had to go to the burthrope master and get a new task and do that new task and then we had to do that task and then go back to duradel and sometimes when we went back to duradel he gave us the same task again so it is fair that when u cancel you get the same task again.

[Toad]

Well im logging tasks from 90 ive had 3 in a row so far that was

 

 

 

84. 133 Dark Beasts - #1 Dark bow, Charms: 15 Blue, 12 Crimson, 4 Green, 8 Gold

 

85. 174 Dark Beasts - Charms: 26 Blue, 16 Crimson, 8 Green. 14 Gold.

 

86. 149 Dark Beasts - #100 Silver Ore, #1 Dark bow, Charms: 22 Blue, 11 Crimson, 4 Green, 11 Gold.

 

 

 

so like it was said above.. its chance and luck

[psvstef]

Exactly why I switched over to Sumona.

 

Buy Sumona gives dumb tasks, there is not thing in her task that gives you some $$$ & charms

 

 

 

Abyssal demons, nechryaels, banshees, black demons, fire giants, etc. etc. The best thing that Duradel assigns that Sumona doesn't is waterfiends.

 

 

 

But Sumona does give some nooby tasks, like basilisks.

 

 

 

basilisks aren't nooby at all,very good exp in the new dungeon :shame:

[Obtaurian]

You just wasted ~91k slayer exp, ~200+ crimson charm, +alot of melee exp because you don't like afk'able task? Quit slayer if you're gonna whine every good task you get...

 

 

 

This.

[llamster]

Exactly why I switched over to Sumona.

 

Buy Sumona gives dumb tasks, there is not thing in her task that gives you some $$$ & charms

 

 

 

Abyssal demons, nechryaels, banshees, black demons, fire giants, etc. etc. The best thing that Duradel assigns that Sumona doesn't is waterfiends.

 

 

 

But Sumona does give some nooby tasks, like basilisks.

 

abyssal demons - duradel gives them too

 

nechryaels - oh surprise - duradel gives that too

 

banshees - ok that one is correct

 

black demons ... - duradel strikes again

 

fire giants - and again ...

 

 

 

Of course he gives them. But ickdeep said that Sumona didn't give any good tasks.

 

 

 

You just wasted ~91k slayer exp, ~200+ crimson charm, +alot of melee exp because you don't like afk'able task? Quit slayer if you're gonna whine every good task you get...

 

 

 

Not to mention 90 (I think) slayer points.

[Poopingman]

Am I missing something? Whats wrong with Black Demons?

[Misterknowitall]

Nothing, some people are appereantly afraid of their pixelized looks.

[firecat318]

Recently I've noticed a big difference in the tasks I've been getting from duradel.

 

 

 

I used to only get these tasks:

 

 

 

Black, steel and iron dragons

 

Black, greater demons

 

Hellhounds

 

Kalphites

 

Fire giants

 

 

 

I'd never get anything else besides that, even though I could have gotten at least 5-6 more monsters. It was starting to piss me off and made slayer very sickening, but right after my 140'th task was completed I hurried back to Duradel and got Mithril Dragons.... My first time ever getting them. My next task was iron dragons, then I had aberrant spectres.. Again the first time ever getting those. Couple tasks later I got waterfiends.. Which I absolutely love

 

 

 

I don't know what happened, but After my 140'th task was complete I started getting other monsters.

[ShaqAttaq]

I think everyone in this thread is completely missing the pointt he OP was making.

 

He was complaining that he cancelled a task got a new one and it was the same monster he just cancelled. Logically, it shouldn't happen. He is not asking whether black demons are good or not and he is not complaining that it is possible to get the same moster several times in a row. Like I said, he is saying that after cancelling a monster logically the next monster should not be the monster you just cancelled.

 

 

 

Maybe it is not a bug, but it sure as hell doesn't make much sense.

 

 

 

Yes it can.

 

Assignments are given at random, so the possibility that you get the same task after canceling is there.

 

And with few slayer monsters to give it might happen a lot with Duradel/Lapalok/Disciple of the Devourer(whoever you like) .

 

That's not the point at all. While it makes sense, given the way slayer monsters are assigned, that it can happen, it doesn't make sense that it should happen, if you follow me.

 

If you pay to cancel an assignment meaning you do not want to and will not (since it is cancelled) do the current task, it doesn't make sense that the next task (or same task if you look at it in the way of the task cancelled not counting) should be the same monster you just paid to cancel.

[Obtaurian]

I think everyone in this thread is completely missing the pointt he OP was making.

 

He was complaining that he cancelled a task got a new one and it was the same monster he just cancelled. Logically, it shouldn't happen. He is not asking whether black demons are good or not and he is not complaining that it is possible to get the same moster several times in a row. Like I said, he is saying that after cancelling a monster logically the next monster should not be the monster you just cancelled.

 

 

 

Maybe it is not a bug, but it sure as hell doesn't make much sense.

 

 

 

Yes it can.

 

Assignments are given at random, so the possibility that you get the same task after canceling is there.

 

And with few slayer monsters to give it might happen a lot with Duradel/Lapalok/Disciple of the Devourer(whoever you like) .

 

That's not the point at all. While it makes sense, given the way slayer monsters are assigned, that it can happen, it doesn't make sense that it should happen, if you follow me.

 

If you pay to cancel an assignment meaning you do not want to and will not (since it is cancelled) do the current task, it doesn't make sense that the next task (or same task if you look at it in the way of the task cancelled not counting) should be the same monster you just paid to cancel.

 

 

 

You're obviously a troll. If you can get ANY monster as a task at random, it makes perfect sense that your next task will be . . .

 

 

 

ANY RANDOM MONSTER.

[Lets_3ekout]

Ya it happens sometimes, but its only bad if its a task you HATE. Nobody complains about 3 Abyssal Demon tasks in a row!

 

 

 

My Advice:

 

What I do is do shilo until I get bored of repeated tasks, then move to sumona. One thing I like about sumona is that she has VARIETY, while shilo doesn't. In fact she has almost TWICE as many monsters on her list than shilo does. (I would wish Jagex would give more higher level tasks to shilo like Avians and such..) Sure she has some lower level tasks on there, but sometimes those are a nice breather to metal dragons and demons all the time.

 

 

 

Typically the best way to go about doing this is:

 

Tasks 1-5 do Sumona.

 

Tasks 6-10 do Shilo.

 

 

 

This way you get the max points on your 10th tasks by using shilo, but also get a bit of variety in what your killing without losing some good tasks in the process. This typically also cuts down on getting tasks in a row because if you get steel dragons on tasks 4 and 5, you cant get them until task 1 again. Vise versa is true for sumona tasks.

 

The problem with frequently using 2+ slayer masters is that you get one ban list for all of slayer, not per master. So some of the bans you made for Shilo will be completely useless at Summona, and vice versa (Though the ban list should probably be saved for Shilo just because it has a smaller selection of assigments). I can't stand the feeling of skipping tasks when I could have banned them so I just stick with Shilo :)

 

 

 

Although black demons are epic tasks I too get sick of them if I get too many, they just take too long for my liking. Remember that you have just as good of a chance (if not better) of getting multiple good tasks. Yesterday, I got 3 abberant spectre tasks in a row and made over 500k while getting faster slayer xp :mrgreen:

[Allbot]

switch to sumona seriously, while i was using shilo i got the like the same 4 tasks over and over again -.- Black demons, iron dragons, kalphites and black dragons it was so really boring. i mean its not like i dont like these assigments its just doing them over and over again one after another is so boring. since i switched to sumona ive gotten like 15 different tasks, i have to say slayer is alot more enjoyable with her tasks.

 

 

 

i think that some ppl dont like blk demon tasks is that they have so much hp that it takes forever to finish the task, and they have pretty bad drops.

[Misterknowitall]

switch to sumona seriously, while i was using shilo i got the like the same 4 tasks over and over again -.- Black demons, iron dragons, kalphites and black dragons it was so really boring. i mean its not like i dont like these assigments its just doing them over and over again one after another is so boring. since i switched to sumona ive gotten like 15 different tasks, i have to say slayer is alot more enjoyable with her tasks.

 

 

 

i think that some ppl dont like blk demon tasks is that they have so much hp that it takes forever to finish the task, and they have pretty bad drops.

 

 

 

Ranged anyone?

[Randox]

I think everyone in this thread is completely missing the pointt he OP was making.

 

He was complaining that he cancelled a task got a new one and it was the same monster he just cancelled. Logically, it shouldn't happen. He is not asking whether black demons are good or not and he is not complaining that it is possible to get the same moster several times in a row. Like I said, he is saying that after cancelling a monster logically the next monster should not be the monster you just cancelled.

 

 

 

Maybe it is not a bug, but it sure as hell doesn't make much sense.

 

 

 

Yes it can.

 

Assignments are given at random, so the possibility that you get the same task after canceling is there.

 

And with few slayer monsters to give it might happen a lot with Duradel/Lapalok/Disciple of the Devourer(whoever you like) .

 

 

 

What the OP is trying to say that most people are not grasping is that if you cancel a task, it means you don't wan't to do it so it should be eliminated from the possible tasks for your next assignment, kind of like a 1 time task ban. If you cancel a task, you shoul dnot be getting the same task. Now, if you cancel it, get something else and then get the task you cancelled again, thats perfectly fair, you should have disabled it, but you really should not get a task you just cancelled as your next task, it completly defeats the point of cancelling. You cancel a task so you don't have to do it (ie you don't want that task now but you may wan't it another time in the future). What part of getting the exact same task after cancelling it helps. Its a waste of points, the cancel is doing nothing. Like I said, it should elimiate that task (that type of monster actualy) from the availible list of monsters for your next task (and only your next task).

[Silver_Corner]

I think everyone in this thread is completely missing the pointt he OP was making.

 

He was complaining that he cancelled a task got a new one and it was the same monster he just cancelled. Logically, it shouldn't happen. He is not asking whether black demons are good or not and he is not complaining that it is possible to get the same moster several times in a row. Like I said, he is saying that after cancelling a monster logically the next monster should not be the monster you just cancelled.

 

 

 

Maybe it is not a bug, but it sure as hell doesn't make much sense.

 

 

 

Yes it can.

 

Assignments are given at random, so the possibility that you get the same task after canceling is there.

 

And with few slayer monsters to give it might happen a lot with Duradel/Lapalok/Disciple of the Devourer(whoever you like) .

 

 

 

What the OP is trying to say that most people are not grasping is that if you cancel a task, it means you don't wan't to do it so it should be eliminated from the possible tasks for your next assignment, kind of like a 1 time task ban. If you cancel a task, you shoul dnot be getting the same task. Now, if you cancel it, get something else and then get the task you cancelled again, thats perfectly fair, you should have disabled it, but you really should not get a task you just cancelled as your next task, it completly defeats the point of cancelling. You cancel a task so you don't have to do it (ie you don't want that task now but you may wan't it another time in the future). What part of getting the exact same task after cancelling it helps. Its a waste of points, the cancel is doing nothing. Like I said, it should elimiate that task (that type of monster actualy) from the availible list of monsters for your next task (and only your next task).

 

 

 

But what people are trying to show you is, this is nothing new, even with the smoking kills system. Here's a better example:

 

 

 

OLD SYSTEM:

 

63 Black Demons

 

45 Iron Dragons (Skip with Burthrope)

 

20 Skeletons

 

32 Iron Dragons (Skip with Burthrope)

 

12 Monkeys

 

54 Iron Dragons

 

 

 

 

 

NEW SYSTEM:

 

63 Black Demons

 

45 Iron Dragons (Cancel for 30 points)

 

32 Iron Dragons (Cancel for 30 points)

 

54 Iron Dragons

 

 

 

The ONLY difference is that you don't have to do a burthrope task inbetween. The slayer system is not designed to let you block more than 4 monsters anytime you want if you have the points, otherwise we'd have more than 4 slots. Its only designed to reshuffle your task and hope you get a different one. So this is nothing new, the only difference is your using points, rather than doing a meaningless task like skeletons.

 

 

 

We had the same exact chances before as we do now, to be re-assigned a task a task after canceling it (either by burthrope or slayer points), the only difference is with the points you don't do a task inbetween.

 

 

 

So no, this is the way its supposed to be, because it hasn't changed from how it was originally.. I don't see why that's an issue.

[Kragg3802]

You could block black demons for point you used to cancel these tasks

[Allbot]

switch to sumona seriously, while i was using shilo i got the like the same 4 tasks over and over again -.- Black demons, iron dragons, kalphites and black dragons it was so really boring. i mean its not like i dont like these assigments its just doing them over and over again one after another is so boring. since i switched to sumona ive gotten like 15 different tasks, i have to say slayer is alot more enjoyable with her tasks.

 

 

 

i think that some ppl dont like blk demon tasks is that they have so much hp that it takes forever to finish the task, and they have pretty bad drops.

 

 

 

Ranged anyone?

 

 

 

that is how i do blk demon tasks, but that still takes forever.

[ShaqAttaq]

I think everyone in this thread is completely missing the pointt he OP was making.

 

He was complaining that he cancelled a task got a new one and it was the same monster he just cancelled. Logically, it shouldn't happen. He is not asking whether black demons are good or not and he is not complaining that it is possible to get the same moster several times in a row. Like I said, he is saying that after cancelling a monster logically the next monster should not be the monster you just cancelled.

 

 

 

Maybe it is not a bug, but it sure as hell doesn't make much sense.

 

 

 

Yes it can.

 

Assignments are given at random, so the possibility that you get the same task after canceling is there.

 

And with few slayer monsters to give it might happen a lot with Duradel/Lapalok/Disciple of the Devourer(whoever you like) .

 

 

 

What the OP is trying to say that most people are not grasping is that if you cancel a task, it means you don't wan't to do it so it should be eliminated from the possible tasks for your next assignment, kind of like a 1 time task ban. If you cancel a task, you shoul dnot be getting the same task. Now, if you cancel it, get something else and then get the task you cancelled again, thats perfectly fair, you should have disabled it, but you really should not get a task you just cancelled as your next task, it completly defeats the point of cancelling. You cancel a task so you don't have to do it (ie you don't want that task now but you may wan't it another time in the future). What part of getting the exact same task after cancelling it helps. Its a waste of points, the cancel is doing nothing. Like I said, it should elimiate that task (that type of monster actualy) from the availible list of monsters for your next task (and only your next task).

 

 

 

But what people are trying to show you is, this is nothing new, even with the smoking kills system. Here's a better example:

 

 

 

OLD SYSTEM:

 

63 Black Demons

 

45 Iron Dragons (Skip with Burthrope)

 

20 Skeletons

 

32 Iron Dragons (Skip with Burthrope)

 

12 Monkeys

 

54 Iron Dragons

 

 

 

 

 

NEW SYSTEM:

 

63 Black Demons

 

45 Iron Dragons (Cancel for 30 points)

 

32 Iron Dragons (Cancel for 30 points)

 

54 Iron Dragons

 

 

 

The ONLY difference is that you don't have to do a burthrope task inbetween. The slayer system is not designed to let you block more than 4 monsters anytime you want if you have the points, otherwise we'd have more than 4 slots. Its only designed to reshuffle your task and hope you get a different one. So this is nothing new, the only difference is your using points, rather than doing a meaningless task like skeletons.

 

 

 

We had the same exact chances before as we do now, to be re-assigned a task a task after canceling it (either by burthrope or slayer points), the only difference is with the points you don't do a task inbetween.

 

 

 

So no, this is the way its supposed to be, because it hasn't changed from how it was originally.. I don't see why that's an issue.

 

You can still burthrope assignments, so cancelling tasks isn't a replacement it is just a new (and better) option. Besides, you said it yourself, when you Burthrope an assignment you get a new task so it makes perfect sense that the next task could be the task you originally Burthroped.

 

I don't really see why you talked about blocking tasks because this topic is about cancelling tasks. It is completely irrelevent. I'm pretty sure no one is thinking that cancelling tasks is a viable means to "block" a monster. Cancelling a task should mean that for whatever reason you don't want to or can't do a specific monster now so choose to do another task instead.

[Toad]

blackdemons are good i take geyser titan there atm, planning on iron titan at 95, quick task, good xp, good charms, rune chains etc pay back the prayer pots.

[Kenneh]

if Duradel annoys you do While Guthix Sleeps and kill him (wtach him die). That pretty much solves every problem 8-)

 

Duradel was a good guy :cry: Lapalok on the other hand is a noob :D

[llamster]

blackdemons are good i take geyser titan there atm, planning on iron titan at 95, quick task, good xp, good charms, rune chains etc pay back the prayer pots.

 

 

 

At your level you could easily tank them.

[Toad]

blackdemons are good i take geyser titan there atm, planning on iron titan at 95, quick task, good xp, good charms, rune chains etc pay back the prayer pots.

 

 

 

At your level you could easily tank them.

 

 

 

then i cant watch tv for like 2 mins at a time :(

[3PointMan]

Lapalok has been extremelllllly nice to me today.

 

 

 

3 Dusty Tasks, 2 Veld, 3 Dagg and 3 Kalphite.

 

 

 

Yeah, today has been an awesome day.

[brunokiller]

blackdemons are good i take geyser titan there atm, planning on iron titan at 95, quick task, good xp, good charms, rune chains etc pay back the prayer pots.

 

 

 

At your level you could easily tank them.

 

You can just barely do it with unicorn. If he prays that means he can use a fighter familiar.