pureprayer Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I dont know how to ask what kind of animals without sounding rude... You just did. I don't mind. Legitimate curiosity. The most common are dogs or horses. I have no specific one and have never actually done anything. I just know it's there. I know, it was as less rude as i could. Seriously email all your friends and tell them to go to 1227.com. I figured you were asking... And about the rickroll thing, didn't get me - I google unknown URLs to check 'em out... :roll: EDIT: you know, I thought of giving you a double-masked link to a beastiality site but I'm in a good mood. ;) I wanted you to give them to your friends :mrgreen: You could of... I have a spyware blocker keeping me from the accidental necro/pedo/beast/etc. sites. Pureprayer, you're awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 I wanted you to give them to your friends :mrgreen: You could of... I have a spyware blocker keeping me from the accidental necro/pedo/beast/etc. sites. Would have been run through a web proxy & [Censored for time being] disguised as something else. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 As much as I feel for you, stop it with the talk about these sites. Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryjoe Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I suppose it's even sicker then that I love eating meat. Seriously it is amazing. Not really, I quite like eating women mate. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 That's true but in this day and age it is highly inconvenient to browse the stores and find purely vegetarian cuisines. What? It's more convenient than ever to be vegetarian. Just because you have a "hard" time avoiding meat doesn't mean its necessary "for your survival." :lol: Point in case is: A high meat diet is absolutely not necessary for survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 As much as I feel for you, stop it with the talk about these sites. I was planning to move away from the topic. Not particularly discussion worthy and inappropriate. @joe... I didn't say meat curtains... Though I must say I'd agree. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orpheus Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I suppose it's even sicker then that I love eating meat. Seriously it is amazing. Not really, I quite like eating women mate. :thumbup: This man knows what he's talking about, I, from personal experience, think they taste like chicken in all the right places ;) Either way, to the TC, I think it's a bit unusual that you're a zoophile, but still, it's a sexual orientation. Nothing really wrong with it. I was going to eat hot dogs for dinner tonight. I think I will settle for cereal. OPEN WIDE HERE COMES THE HELICOPTER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 I'm really surprised at the tolerance you guys exhibit. There's a lot of hate out there... OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgedThesis Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 [ However both necrophilia and paedophilia involve acts when it is impossible to get valid consent, zoophilia is different in that respect. How are you sure of an animal's 'consent'? They'd be just as innocent and unknowing as children. But I don't want to go among mad people!Oh, you can't help that. We're all mad here..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 How are you sure of an animal's 'consent'? They'd be just as innocent and unknowing as children. It doesn't matter that we don't have an animal's consent. We kill and eat them, we skin them, we use their tusks, we brand them, we debeak them, etc all without their consent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 [ However both necrophilia and paedophilia involve acts when it is impossible to get valid consent, zoophilia is different in that respect. How are you sure of an animal's 'consent'? They'd be just as innocent and unknowing as children. Body language. You can tell when a person likes something without verbal cues, the same goes for animals. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathdrow Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 [ However both necrophilia and paedophilia involve acts when it is impossible to get valid consent, zoophilia is different in that respect. How are you sure of an animal's 'consent'? They'd be just as innocent and unknowing as children. Body language. You can tell when a person likes something without verbal cues, the same goes for animals. if you rub a kitty right in front of the tail. they get off on it. my friend showed me that in sixth grade. apparently it gives them orgasms. not that I'd trust what the kid would say. but he does masturbate to squirrels. he's a bit of a beastiality ish person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 That's true but in this day and age it is highly inconvenient to browse the stores and find purely vegetarian cuisines. What? It's more convenient than ever to be vegetarian. Just because you have a "hard" time avoiding meat doesn't mean its necessary "for your survival." :lol: Point in case is: A high meat diet is absolutely not necessary for survival. Are you kidding? How is it more convenient to completely abstain from one certain type of food, even though it is in the majority of dishes presented to you? With vegetarianism, you have to go out of your way. If you're an omnivore, you don't. Also, I never said anything about a high meat diet - just a diet with any meat in it at all or else we aren't talking about true vegetarianism then. I don't understand where these "you eat meat, so that means we can do whatever we want to animals" arguments are coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 I don't understand where these "you eat meat, so that means we can do whatever we want to animals" arguments are coming from. Me neither. But even though I don't necessarily agree it does make me feel better... OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGoddessI Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I'm about to send you a private message so make sure you read it. Suicide is kind of a big deal, let's talk off this forum and see what help is available for you. The only people who tell you that you can't do something are those who have already given up on their own dreams so feel the need to discourage yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nenga Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 How do these topics always end up "is _____ morally right?" Right or wrong shouldn't even be a question before you accept it yourself. To do that it is usually a matter of looking into yourself, figuring out why you are the way you are, and justifying your decision in your own mind. Human emotions can toss aside any religion, morals, etc with the slightest ease. It can cause a feeling of isolation but you just have to live with it. Life is too short to kill yourself over what makes you happy. and as long as you have your happiness you don't need anything else. Just keep on moving and you'll find that person animal living organism that makes you happy. Obviously I can't say anything specific for your situation, but I hope I helped, in some way. (or in any way) As for people being more accepting online, they're generally not. It's just on tipit the stupid people tend to stay in general discussion. Either that or they are weeded out by the time they make it to off topic. Ponies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGoddessI Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 One thing that stuck out for me is your relationship with your father. How has the relationship been with other members of your family? friends? other relatives? The only people who tell you that you can't do something are those who have already given up on their own dreams so feel the need to discourage yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 I have a generally good relationship with my father... but that day didn't go well. How do these topics always end up "is _____ morally right?" As for people being more accepting online, they're generally not. It's just on tipit the stupid people tend to stay in general discussion. Either that or they are weeded out by the time they make it to off topic. Well, as for the morality I know I shouldn't worry because it is just me but something just tells me no despite how I otherwise feel. As for your comment on acceptance, that's why I was surprised. EDIT: Damn clicked submit... meant to change windows. finishing this post soon. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 How is it more convenient to completely abstain from one certain type of food, even though it is in the majority of dishes presented to you? I take it you misread my post. "It's more convenient than ever to be vegetarian" means that it is more convenient to be a vegetarian now than it ever was in the past. This is primarily because we have such a wide variety of foods available to us (i.e. supermarkets, restaurants), but also because vegetarian alternatives are very prevalent. Also, I never said anything about a high meat diet - just a diet with any meat in it at all or else we aren't talking about true vegetarianism then. Neither diet is necessary for survival in this day and age, regardless of whether they are inconvenient. I don't understand where these "you eat meat, so that means we can do whatever we want to animals" arguments are coming from. Zierro, can you actually form a rebuttal without misrepresenting my argument? I'll be explicitly clear: "In no case do we require consent from animals; thus the argument of whether an animal can 'consent to sex' is irrelevant." This doesn't mean we can "do anything we want to them" -- there exist laws against animal abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 "In no case do we require consent from animals; thus the argument of whether an animal can 'consent to sex' is irrelevant." That first bit is not true. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 When is consent required, by law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 When is consent required, by law? There's rules that are followed. Research the community and you'd find out. It is a big concern. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I take it you misread my post. "It's more convenient than ever to be vegetarian" means that it is more convenient to be a vegetarian now than it ever was in the past. This is primarily because we have such a wide variety of foods available to us (i.e. supermarkets, restaurants), but also because vegetarian alternatives are very prevalent. Which means it's still far more inconvenient than having a normal diet. Neither diet is necessary for survival in this day and age, regardless of whether they are inconvenient. Ah, so I see you've taken "necessary" to the most unnecessary extreme. Allow me to rephrase myself then: We eat meat because it is expedient when it comes to our diets (our diets being necessary for survival). Zierro, can you actually form a rebuttal without misrepresenting my argument? Don't start that with me. You're the one who said I'm talking about a high meat diet. This doesn't mean we can "do anything we want to them" -- there exist laws against animal abuse. So where is this irregularly placed line drawn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pureprayer Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Im back (my computer has a proxy filter too but no more talk of that.) I would talk to a friend about this. Trust me. Pureprayer, you're awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 I have a friend in mind, she's bi - possibly more understanding. But she's a friend I like and wouldn't want to drive away. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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