Cup Lion Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Probably going to get my [wagon] flamed for this, but just pray about it. I find my strength with big issues through praying to God. Though you can't always get a response, its always nice to have someone to talk to who just stays quiet and doesn't judge. You shouldn't see yourself as a freak. God loves you no matter what. Just find the strength to continue on with life. If you don't believe in God, or hate him and whatnot, disregard my message. EDIT: Simply put, learn to control it. I mean that in the nicest way possible. This isn't something you can entirely get rid of, but the best you can do is control it. Once you do that, I figure it won't ruin the rest of your life, if you may say. |Signature by Jason321| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 Probably going to get my [wagon] flamed for this, but just pray about it. I find my strength with big issues through praying to God. Though you can't always get a response, its always nice to have someone to talk to who just stays quiet and doesn't judge. You shouldn't see yourself as a freak. God loves you no matter what. Just find the strength to continue on with life. If you don't believe in God, or hate him and whatnot, disregard my message. Lol, you wouldn't get flamed. Hell if I haven't (yet...) you sure as hell wont be. I don't believe in god myself but I think spiritual guidance would be helpful. Unfortunately I'm a realist and my logic fails to see how the existence of a deity is possible. Thank you for the advice anyway. Even though you may not have helped too much, at least you have a coping mechanism. EDIT: to avoid a double post, I just want to add, in response to a lot of this thread, that I am not planning to commit suicide or give up on life any time soon. However I do feel I've hit a wall and can't continue on like I want to (some very exciting years of my life lie ahead) without confronting this issue before it starts to define me as a person. I know this is a part of who I am but I don't want my status as a zoo to consume the rest of me. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 It's just sexual preference. You don't have to broadcast it or anything if you don't want to. I don't exactly wear a sign saying "HEY I LIKE VAGINAS" except for that one time. Although if you really do feel you need to confront it, I'm not exactly sure how to help there. Get a pet? catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 It's just sexual preference. You don't have to broadcast it or anything if you don't want to. I don't exactly wear a sign saying "HEY I LIKE VAGINAS" except for that one time. Although if you really do feel you need to confront it, I'm not exactly sure how to help there. Get a pet? I need to confront this. I can't just push it away. It feels like a huge weight on my shoulders, the skeleton in my closet... helps to talk about it though. And I have a pet cat, I love her dearly (innocent though), and that's the most meaningful relationship I have, despite being a part of a good family. I kind of feel like I'm betraying my family and friends by not developing meaningful relationships with them. There isn't anyone I talk to about this sort of thing, I talk money and politics pretty much exclusively even with my own parents... Heh, I can only imagine what a bigger mess I'd be if I didn't have the ability to anonymously talk about this on the internet. Even with that outlet I still have a foolish desire to shout it out to the world #-o. I could never do it though. Everything to lose, nothing to gain. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin64 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I'm not entirely sure how this can affect your day-to-day. I mean, nobody's going to look at you and say, 'that guy's a creep, kill it with fire". Unless your friends catch you in the closet with the dog, it doesn't have to be a burden. SO don't necessarily ignore it, but something like that shouldn't present too much of an obstacle. Unless it's an inner struggle dealing how much of a monster you are. Which, perhaps, you're not. But that's up to you, really. Command the Murderous Chalices! Drink ye harpooners! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful whaleboat's bow- Death to Moby Dick!BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgedThesis Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Control, control, control. We all have urges to do certain, sometimes inexplicable things. Some are drawn to violence--sufferers of illogical snaps that lead to murder. Others have uncontrollable hungers, either for actual food, or knowledge, or sex. But society is kept together with the mortar of human control. Your urges are of rare breed, but they are still just urges. We all have them. You are no monster, you are human. We are human. Don't fret--just keep a handle on what you deem irrational. But I don't want to go among mad people!Oh, you can't help that. We're all mad here..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle229 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 First, let's get something straight. You are not a freak. A freak is someone who lives in an alleyway and attempts to give rats open heart surgery. Like the above poster said, they're just urges. Unusual urges, but urges. Just keep your cool, and you'll be fine. :) You could talk to a psychiatrist, which could help loads (therapy is not just for crazy people). Or, like others have said, you could PM IGoddessI, our unofficial OT shrink. Get back here so I can rub your butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 http://www.biblegateway.com/ Here's my favorite online bible site. Use it if you can't get your hands on a real one. You'll find strength through God, as he loves you no matter who you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Umm... if you read the thread you'd have seen the post where I stated that I don't believe in a god. If you missed that, thank you for your concern. But if you didn't, I don't appreciate the conversion attempt. Thank you. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElkNight Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 as he loves you no matter who you are. I wish all christians/catholics/whatever religion would believe this instead of hating on homosexuals and other people that are different. 8,180WONGTONG IS THE BEST AND IS MORE SUPERIOR THAN ME#1 Wongtong stalker.Im looking for some No Limit soldiers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 And I have a pet cat, I love her dearly (innocent though), and that's the most meaningful relationship I have, despite being a part of a good family. I kind of feel like I'm betraying my family and friends by not developing meaningful relationships with them. There isn't anyone I talk to about this sort of thing, I talk money and politics pretty much exclusively even with my own parents... You should really try getting a better relationship with humans then. They can help you with a lot more than your cat can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastortoise Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 And I have a pet cat, I love her dearly (innocent though), and that's the most meaningful relationship I have, despite being a part of a good family. I kind of feel like I'm betraying my family and friends by not developing meaningful relationships with them. There isn't anyone I talk to about this sort of thing, I talk money and politics pretty much exclusively even with my own parents... You should really try getting a better relationship with humans then. They can help you with a lot more than your cat can. Indeed. I think that although you've come to terms with your sexuality, your emotional needs prevent you from perceiving more complex truths and attaining the metaphysical knowledge you believe you have found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Wha...? You lost at complex truths... what do you mean? OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jernlov Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I don't want to be forever branded as some sicko lumped together in the same category as necros and paedos...You don't want to be persecuted, but you call people also with different urges sickos? Sorry kiddo, you've lost me. Steam | Soup | Last.fm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I don't want to be forever branded as some sicko lumped together in the same category as necros and paedos...You don't want to be persecuted, but you call people also with different urges sickos? Sorry kiddo, you've lost me. It seems more like society is branding these people as "sickos." I'm not sure what the last few posters are on about. Zoosexuality is not a few stray "urges" that can be "controlled" by mere willpower. Like homosexuailty or heterosexuality, it is a sexual orientation. I kind of feel like I'm betraying my family and friends by not developing meaningful relationships with them. You don't have to be straight to develop a meaningful relationship with family and friends. :thumbup: Keep your head up and don't let your sexual preferences get in the way -- it's none of their business, really. It will take some time to adjust, but there's no use in killing yourself or damaging your family/social life about it. Many have lived with zoosexuality, and much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 I don't want to be forever branded as some sicko lumped together in the same category as necros and paedos...You don't want to be persecuted, but you call people also with different urges sickos? Sorry kiddo, you've lost me. It seems more like society is branding these people as "sickos." I'm not sure what the last few posters are on about. Zoosexuality is not a few stray "urges" that can be "controlled" by mere willpower. Like homosexuailty or heterosexuality, it is a sexual orientation. I kind of feel like I'm betraying my family and friends by not developing meaningful relationships with them. You don't have to be straight to develop a meaningful relationship with family and friends. :thumbup: Keep your head up and don't let your sexual preferences get in the way -- it's none of their business, really. It will take some time to adjust, but there's no use in killing yourself or damaging your family/social life about it. Many have lived with zoosexuality, and much worse. Yeah, I meant that society branded these people as sickos - I reserve judgment because of my status... but SilverSword is somewhat right, as I used to think that. However both necrophilia and paedophilia involve acts when it is impossible to get valid consent, zoophilia is different in that respect. I also like your point about the willpower comments. It is a sexual orientation and can't really be controlled by such means forever. But because of the social acceptability I have to suppress it - much like homosexuals in previous centuries. Hmm... disturbing example, many of them committed suicide. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Some committed suicide, but the vast majority did not. There's no need to suppress your feelings -- you just need to learn how to keep them from your peers. It's a sad state of society where we can't all be open about our sexual preferences, but at least it's an improvement from the violent 'queer bashings' that were prevalent not too long ago. We brutally butcher thousands of animals every day without their consent. There's really no argument against zoos. Hopefully the rest of society will come to realize this in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 We brutally butcher thousands of animals every day without their consent. There's really no argument against zoos. Hopefully the rest of society will come to realize this in time. We do it for survival though. This isn't to say I disagree with your main point - merely just that particular example. In fact I don't see how anything that you have no choice over can be considered "wrong". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pureprayer Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm I dont know how to ask what kind of animals without sounding rude... Pureprayer, you're awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 We brutally butcher thousands of animals every day without their consent. There's really no argument against zoos. Hopefully the rest of society will come to realize this in time. We do it for survival though. This isn't to say I disagree with your main point - merely just that particular example. In fact I don't see how anything that you have no choice over can be considered "wrong". Ever heard of vegetarians? Initially, when food was scarce, we did eat meat for survival. However, in this day and age, high meat diets are unnecessary and destructive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 I dont know how to ask what kind of animals without sounding rude... You just did. I don't mind. Legitimate curiosity. The most common are dogs or horses. I have no specific one and have never actually done anything. I just know it's there. I don't see how anything that you have no choice over can be considered "wrong". I agree with the idea but in practice it is hard to think like that. A lot of my problem is that I live in a somewhat intolerant society and have grown up to believe that zoophilia is a sick horrible affront to all that is good and then I find out I'm one of them. On a second note, "zoophilia" (and the variants) is a word but it is counted as misspelled in Firefox's word library... Example of the general view or just coincidence I don't know, but I think it's pretty interesting. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pureprayer Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I dont know how to ask what kind of animals without sounding rude... You just did. I don't mind. Legitimate curiosity. The most common are dogs or horses. I have no specific one and have never actually done anything. I just know it's there. I know, it was as less rude as i could. Seriously email all your friends and tell them to go to 1227.com. Pureprayer, you're awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 I dont know how to ask what kind of animals without sounding rude... You just did. I don't mind. Legitimate curiosity. The most common are dogs or horses. I have no specific one and have never actually done anything. I just know it's there. I know, it was as less rude as i could. Seriously email all your friends and tell them to go to 1227.com. I figured you were asking... And about the rickroll thing, didn't get me - I google unknown URLs to check 'em out... :roll: EDIT: you know, I thought of giving you a double-masked link to a beastiality site but I'm in a good mood. ;) OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Ever heard of vegetarians? Initially, when food was scarce, we did eat meat for survival. However, in this day and age, high meat diets are unnecessary and destructive. That's true but in this day and age it is highly inconvenient to browse the stores and find purely vegetarian cuisines. It's more difficult to completely abstain from meat than one might think. Especially if you live with a family that cooks for you. I didn't mean to say factory conditions are right, but there is a difference between using something for the intention of survival and using something for the intention of sexual activity. You don't have to have sex to survive, but you do need to eat and it's hard to avoid meat in your diets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 I didn't mean to say factory conditions are right, but there is a difference between using something for the intention of survival and using something for the intention of sexual activity. You don't have to have sex to survive, but you do need to eat and it's hard to avoid meat. I suppose it's even sicker then that I love eating meat. Seriously it is amazing. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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