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Please don't discuss moderator actions and/or repost rule-breaking material. >_<

 

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Please don't censor inanely. <_<

 

I was part of the mod team, I know you guys aren't some sort of oppressive institution. But honestly, deleting a post asking about a friend being muted is incredibly ridiculous.

 

As an ex-mod you should also know that what happens between a moderator and a user is private. I'm sure you remember that. And even though you don't agree with it (and there might be a lot of individual moderators who don't like it either) we do it because 9/10 it's irrelevant to discussion and diverts the topic, like it is now. But I'm sure you remember that, too, since you were a moderator for so long.

 

I'm sure you guys are able to contact him via AIM or MSN or IRC if you need to, since he's your friend. I'm just doing what I have to do, and complaining to me isn't going to change policy. :/ Make a topic in Website Discussion, that might actually get more motion behind it if the userbase expresses a group desire for it. It'll be time better used instead of raging at me. :P

 

Anyway, I'm sorry for invading your 'turf' for lack of a better word. I hope I won't have to again as a moderator, because I enjoy reading the thread as a regular user. >_<'

The point of LOTPW is that there isn't a topic. As is, most of what is discussed here is on a personal level, hence when a person is taken out of the picture it is entirely relevant to discussion for us to know why.

 

I don't have any sort of messaging any more, nor do I have contact information for anyone here. And I should think my reaction is something less than rage... I think I'm being rather reasonable.

 

It's not an invasion, this thread isn't private. I'm sure no one here minds your presence alone.

LOTPW is not a special topic. It does not have special rules, except for more leniency with spam. Just because you guys are a close community does not mean other forum rules do not apply and it does not mean that you guys get special attention or special privileges.

 

 

HUBGLUBLUGHYIDFDSYUGH Tripsis-HUBGLUBLUGHUBGLUBLUG stop-HUBGLUBLUGHUBGLUBLUGHUBGLUBLUG I'm drowning in the bullshit.

Just because you dislike or don't agree with something or because you have a problem with authority and rules doesn't mean it's bullshit.


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HUBGLUBLUGHYIDFDSYUGH Tripsis-HUBGLUBLUGHUBGLUBLUG stop-HUBGLUBLUGHUBGLUBLUGHUBGLUBLUG I'm drowning in the bullshit.

Just because you dislike or don't agree with something or because you have a problem with authority and rules doesn't mean it's bullshit.

The runarounds and the dead ends, and the "stop asking questions" reminiscent of totalitarian regimes makes it bullshit.


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God dammit Seany, STOP SHARING MY MIND

" I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin. I'm not going to live there. There's no place for me there... I'm a monster.What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done."

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The runarounds and the dead ends, and the "stop asking questions" reminiscent of totalitarian regimes makes it bullshit.

 

...But all your questions were answered, save for those that it's Goon's right to explain :$

 

I don't ever expect users to love moderators but I tried to make every effort to answer what I could >_<'


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HUBGLUBLUGHYIDFDSYUGH Tripsis-HUBGLUBLUGHUBGLUBLUG stop-HUBGLUBLUGHUBGLUBLUGHUBGLUBLUG I'm drowning in the bullshit.

Just because you dislike or don't agree with something or because you have a problem with authority and rules doesn't mean it's bullshit.

The runarounds and the dead ends, and the "stop asking questions" reminiscent of totalitarian regimes makes it bullshit.

We never said "stop asking questions" and no one here is even asking why a certain rule is in place or suggesting alternatives. Here's how it works around here:

 

  • You break the rules.
  • We enforce the rules.
  • You kick, scream, whine, moan.
  • We explain why we have the rule.
  • You cry about how it's unfair and scream "bullshit".

You're not being constructive. You're not making legitimate suggestions to change the rules. You're not asking questions about our reasoning. You're just sitting there saying our rules are stupid and moan when you get caught breaking them.


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Oh boy, you guys are at it again. Driving me out of my slumber just for this.

 

As an ex-member of the moderating team I can give you the following information. The TIF forum staff aren't out in some sort of conspiracy against their users. They respect their privacy. If they gave information why someone was banned, they'd be breaching that privacy. If exceptions were made to this rule, then they'd be breaking that rule. There are no legitimate grounds to give why a person on these forums are banned. If you want to find out, ask them yourself. They know why they were banned. It's explained in detail in the ban email sent.

 

I would also like to address the following... a person isn't banned for one offence. A person is NEVER banned for one offence bar something serious such as keylogging or pornography. A person is typically banned after a multitude of warnings. The TIF forum staff are often very generous in terms of this favouring warnings and reminders instead of bans. Furthermore, every single PM and communication sent is available for every single member of the moderating staff to view. So, if they did something wrong, it can be easily picked up by other members of the moderating staff, so there is no real "rogue" moderating happening, ever. Of course there are staff members with different ideologies, and because of this they may choose to take action on something. However, I can assure you that mostly every major action done is done with due process including, but not limited to, discussion amongst the greater moderating team.

 

If you disagree with a specific rule, feel free to make a topic in Forum Updates and Suggestions. That's honestly the best way to get a response. Even though this topic is relaxed in terms of that because you can' t really get off topic, it is still a more suitable action.

 

Just listen to the moderating team and what they have to say. Every rule and action is done with due process and in good faith.

 

Kevin out.


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The runarounds and the dead ends, and the "stop asking questions" reminiscent of totalitarian regimes makes it bullshit.

 

...But all your questions were answered, save for those that it's Goon's right to explain :$

 

I don't ever expect users to love moderators but I tried to make every effort to answer what I could >_<'

How long is Goon banned?

 

DOH, CAN'T TELL YOU.


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God dammit Seany, STOP SHARING MY MIND

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Oh boy, you guys are at it again. Driving me out of my slumber just for this.

 

As an ex-member of the moderating team I can give you the following information. The TIF forum staff aren't out in some sort of conspiracy against their users. They respect their privacy. If they gave information why someone was banned, they'd be breaching that privacy. If exceptions were made to this rule, then they'd be breaking that rule. There are no legitimate grounds to give why a person on these forums are banned. If you want to find out, ask them yourself. They know why they were banned. It's explained in detail in the ban email sent.

 

I would also like to address the following... a person isn't banned for one offence. A person is NEVER banned for one offence bar something serious such as keylogging or pornography. A person is typically banned after a multitude of warnings. The TIF forum staff are often very generous in terms of this favouring warnings and reminders instead of bans. Furthermore, every single PM and communication sent is available for every single member of the moderating staff to view. So, if they did something wrong, it can be easily picked up by other members of the moderating staff, so there is no real "rogue" moderating happening, ever. Of course there are staff members with different ideologies, and because of this they may choose to take action on something. However, I can assure you that mostly every major action done is done with due process including, but not limited to, discussion amongst the greater moderating team.

 

If you disagree with a specific rule, feel free to make a topic in Forum Updates and Suggestions. That's honestly the best way to get a response. Even though this topic is relaxed in terms of that because you can' t really get off topic, it is still a more suitable action.

 

Just listen to the moderating team and what they have to say. Every rule and action is done with due process and in good faith.

 

Kevin out.

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The runarounds and the dead ends, and the "stop asking questions" reminiscent of totalitarian regimes makes it bullshit.

 

...But all your questions were answered, save for those that it's Goon's right to explain :$

 

I don't ever expect users to love moderators but I tried to make every effort to answer what I could >_<'

How long is Goon banned?

 

DOH, CAN'T TELL YOU.

And once again.. just more whining. We made it very clear what our reason was and you can't even challenge the logic in it. You just complain. All action taken against users is private. The user in question may share it. Ask Goon. He can tell you.


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Oh boy, you guys are at it again. Driving me out of my slumber just for this.

 

As an ex-member of the moderating team I can give you the following information. The TIF forum staff aren't out in some sort of conspiracy against their users. They respect their privacy. If they gave information why someone was banned, they'd be breaching that privacy. If exceptions were made to this rule, then they'd be breaking that rule. There are no legitimate grounds to give why a person on these forums are banned. If you want to find out, ask them yourself. They know why they were banned. It's explained in detail in the ban email sent.

 

I would also like to address the following... a person isn't banned for one offence. A person is NEVER banned for one offence bar something serious such as keylogging or pornography. A person is typically banned after a multitude of warnings. The TIF forum staff are often very generous in terms of this favouring warnings and reminders instead of bans. Furthermore, every single PM and communication sent is available for every single member of the moderating staff to view. So, if they did something wrong, it can be easily picked up by other members of the moderating staff, so there is no real "rogue" moderating happening, ever. Of course there are staff members with different ideologies, and because of this they may choose to take action on something. However, I can assure you that mostly every major action done is done with due process including, but not limited to, discussion amongst the greater moderating team.

 

If you disagree with a specific rule, feel free to make a topic in Forum Updates and Suggestions. That's honestly the best way to get a response. Even though this topic is relaxed in terms of that because you can' t really get off topic, it is still a more suitable action.

 

Just listen to the moderating team and what they have to say. Every rule and action is done with due process and in good faith.

 

Kevin out.

KEEEEEEVIIIIIIIN!

 

WE LOVE YOU KEVIN!

 

COME BACK TO US!


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How long is Goon banned?

 

DOH, CAN'T TELL YOU.

 

I PM'd you telling you, in hopes you'd tell him, that he should have received an email. I was candid and said I'm not allowed to say anything further. You said he has emails from TIF blocked. I told you that Account Problem forms can be used to find out why and/or appeal and/or disagree with moderator action.

 

I don't know what else you want me to do, knowing that I can't do the one thing you're asking, and knowing that I don't have the power to change that policy. I even showed you where you can get user opinion on getting a policy you disagree with changed :/

 

You're kind of being unreasonable Sean :/


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OH GOD WHAT IS HAPPENING?!

 

Can't we all just get along...?

 

also, KEVIN COME BACK

 

ZENO DG WITH ME


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Oh boy, you guys are at it again. Driving me out of my slumber just for this.

 

As an ex-member of the moderating team I can give you the following information. The TIF forum staff aren't out in some sort of conspiracy against their users. They respect their privacy. If they gave information why someone was banned, they'd be breaching that privacy. If exceptions were made to this rule, then they'd be breaking that rule. There are no legitimate grounds to give why a person on these forums are banned. If you want to find out, ask them yourself. They know why they were banned. It's explained in detail in the ban email sent.

 

I would also like to address the following... a person isn't banned for one offence. A person is NEVER banned for one offence bar something serious such as keylogging or pornography. A person is typically banned after a multitude of warnings. The TIF forum staff are often very generous in terms of this favouring warnings and reminders instead of bans. Furthermore, every single PM and communication sent is available for every single member of the moderating staff to view. So, if they did something wrong, it can be easily picked up by other members of the moderating staff, so there is no real "rogue" moderating happening, ever. Of course there are staff members with different ideologies, and because of this they may choose to take action on something. However, I can assure you that mostly every major action done is done with due process including, but not limited to, discussion amongst the greater moderating team.

 

If you disagree with a specific rule, feel free to make a topic in Forum Updates and Suggestions. That's honestly the best way to get a response. Even though this topic is relaxed in terms of that because you can' t really get off topic, it is still a more suitable action.

 

Just listen to the moderating team and what they have to say. Every rule and action is done with due process and in good faith.

 

Kevin out.

KEEEEEEVIIIIIIIN!

 

WE LOVE YOU KEVIN!

 

COME BACK TO US!

lol this does just confirm that kevin has been lurking tif for like a month anyways and never even "left"


 

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10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc
10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes?

 

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RIP Dawngate ;-;

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OH GOD WHAT IS HAPPENING?!

 

Can't we all just get along...?

 

also, KEVIN COME BACK

 

ZENO DG WITH ME

 

sure, i just got an essay to write later

 

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its dg time gogogogo


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HUBGLUBLUGHYIDFDSYUGH Tripsis-HUBGLUBLUGHUBGLUBLUG stop-HUBGLUBLUGHUBGLUBLUGHUBGLUBLUG I'm drowning in the bullshit.

Just because you dislike or don't agree with something or because you have a problem with authority and rules doesn't mean it's bullshit.

The runarounds and the dead ends, and the "stop asking questions" reminiscent of totalitarian regimes makes it bullshit.

We never said "stop asking questions" and no one here is even asking why a certain rule is in place or suggesting alternatives. Here's how it works around here:

 

  • You break the rules.
  • We enforce the rules.
  • You kick, scream, whine, moan.
  • We explain why we have the rule.
  • You cry about how it's unfair and scream "bullshit".

You're not being constructive. You're not making legitimate suggestions to change the rules. You're not asking questions about our reasoning. You're just sitting there saying our rules are stupid and moan when you get caught breaking them.

I very specifically remember someone (I believe cowman) saying "stop asking"

 

Lets clarify, when I break the rules you do jack shit to me. When goon posts some harmless pictures, he gets muted for however long.

 

I honestly can't tell if you read from a script most of the time.

 

My "whining" consists of pointing out the stupidity of your responses in a inappropriate, hyperbolic manner.

 

Also, I have yet to be told where I can apply to be a mod.


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God dammit Seany, STOP SHARING MY MIND

" I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin. I'm not going to live there. There's no place for me there... I'm a monster.What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done."

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OH GOD WHAT IS HAPPENING?!

 

Can't we all just get along...?

 

also, KEVIN COME BACK

 

ZENO DG WITH ME

 

sure, i just got an essay to write later

 

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its dg time gogogogo

 

I'm on right now but you aren't on

 

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Lets clarify, when I break the rules you do jack shit to me. When goon posts some harmless pictures, he gets muted for however long.

this is true


 

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OH GOD WHAT IS HAPPENING?!

 

Can't we all just get along...?

 

also, KEVIN COME BACK

 

ZENO DG WITH ME

 

sure, i just got an essay to write later

 

IM SIGNING ON NOW

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its dg time gogogogo

 

I'm on right now but you aren't on

 

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IM COMING ON NOW


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Well, 321, you just asked to be banned. Good job.

 

Drop it while you're ahead. For the sake of not wanting to lose my favorite bear, drop it. 2 in one day would be terrible.


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Well, 321, you just asked to be banned. Good job.

 

Drop it while you're ahead. For the sake of not wanting to lose my favorite bear, drop it. 2 in one day would be terrible.

Banned for human emotion.

 

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10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc
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RIP Dawngate ;-;

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Well, 321, you just asked to be banned. Good job.

 

Drop it while you're ahead. For the sake of not wanting to lose my favorite bear, drop it. 2 in one day would be terrible.

Sorry tyler, but the higher leadership just relaly pisses me off.

 

Kimberly was all nice about it, as are the local mods, who tolerate my typical obnoxiousness. Then tripsis rides in on a high horse with a sandblaster between her legs and tosses a bucket of bull on me.


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God dammit Seany, STOP SHARING MY MIND

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