Woofkittens Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Hello. I want to buy full dragon, cause i have wanted it for a while now. Should i buy it or is it bad? Ive heard theres a special stat on the dragon plate.. Proud Owner Of The Quest CapeProud Owner Of The Attack CapeProud Owner Of The Defence Cape Dragon Drops: 1 Shield Left Half, 2 Dragon Claws, 10 Dragon Platelegs, 4 Dragon Medium Helmets GWD Drops: Gs shard 1: 3 times GS Shard 2: Nil GS shard 3: 2 times 1 Bandos Tassets, 1 Bandos Hilt 1 Bandos Boots, Armadyl Hilt, 3 Saradomin swords Misc: Ranger boots, Dragonic Visage, Guthix bow, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Your stats stick with barrows and bandos. The only reason dragon is brought by 70+ defense players is for the looks nothing more. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 For stats, it sucks. Alot. I believe there's a +1 stab/slash/crush stat on the plate, pretty negligble. If you want effective armour, Barrows was, is and most likely will be the way to go for years to come. A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffy1 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 For stats, it sucks. Alot. I believe there's a +1 stab/slash/crush stat on the plate, pretty negligble. If you want effective armour, Barrows was, is and most likely will be the way to go for years to come. Actually, it doesn't suck. I personnally have full dragon because I dislike barrows armour. Sure, barrows gives slightly higher bonues, but dragon isn't thát bad, doesn't degrade, and looks much better. :D Personally I find that when doing castle wars for example, the gs-wielding melee people that try to kill me when I steal flags, can't kill me because they hit too low on me.. If I'm in very dangerous places I might use barrows for a short while, but usually my dragon is more than sufficient, and isn't ugly like barrows. I'd say go for it. :thumbsup: Tip.It Website Crew Leader[hide=Quotes]I love it how Jafje comes outa nowhere and answers my questionsHehe now we know what real life does...drugs, drugs, more drugs. Thank god we are addicted to something that won't kill us. [/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dragon full helm and plate body has 30 (ish) defense less on all 3 melee, about 60 less on ranged and about 20 summoning than guthans. (all barrows are about the same def) Dragon plate has about 30 (ish) more defense in stab and slash (10 more in crush), about 30 better in range and 2 better in summoning than dragon chain. Hope that helps. : IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khandajatt Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 For stats, it sucks. Alot. I believe there's a +1 stab/slash/crush stat on the plate, pretty negligble. If you want effective armour, Barrows was, is and most likely will be the way to go for years to come. Actually, it doesn't suck. I personnally have full dragon because I dislike barrows armour. Sure, barrows gives slightly higher bonues, but dragon isn't thát bad, doesn't degrade, and looks much better. :D Personally I find that when doing castle wars for example, the gs-wielding melee people that try to kill me when I steal flags, can't kill me because they hit too low on me.. If I'm in very dangerous places I might use barrows for a short while, but usually my dragon is more than sufficient, and isn't ugly like barrows. I'd say go for it. :thumbsup: i agree with you i have full drag and i so hate barrow because you need to repair it again and again, i dont mind bandos either, but full drag with dfs is fine for slayer task, i like my drag, tou can expriment using diff armour piece but i would say dont buy dragon sq shield get dfs instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffy1 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dfs? Nothing wrong with dragon sq... Sure as hell beats obby shield (which is what many people actually think is better -.- ). Tip.It Website Crew Leader[hide=Quotes]I love it how Jafje comes outa nowhere and answers my questionsHehe now we know what real life does...drugs, drugs, more drugs. Thank god we are addicted to something that won't kill us. [/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khandajatt Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dfs? Nothing wrong with dragon sq... Sure as hell beats obby shield (which is what many people actually think is better -.- ). yes i dont like d sq, dfs looks better with drag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MstrMonopoly Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 First of all the Rune Defender is the best melee shield in the game unless you need super high defence. If you can make over 25k/hr Barrows is best. I piety the fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khandajatt Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 First of all the Rune Defender is the best melee shield in the game unless you need super high defence. If you can make over 25k/hr Barrows is best. second off all rune defender is not a shield, third off all its only gud for str bonuses, forth of all dfs is better then defender it got str bonuses and defence bonuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 First of all the Rune Defender is the best melee shield in the game unless you need super high defence. If you can make over 25k/hr Barrows is best. second off all rune defender is not a shield, third off all its only gud for str bonuses, forth of all dfs is better then defender it got str bonuses and defence bonuses The rune defender is considered a shield, as it is wielded in the shield slot. It has good offensive bonuses besides strength. The dfs is only necessary against high leveled monsters. Against most monsters that you will train against offense is more important than defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 First of all the Rune Defender is the best melee shield in the game unless you need super high defence. If you can make over 25k/hr Barrows is best. second off all rune defender is not a shield, third off all its only gud for str bonuses, forth of all dfs is better then defender it got str bonuses and defence bonuses 2. Rune defender goes in the shield slot so yes its a shield. 3. Nope look at the attack bonus' 4. But lacks the attack bonus' mentioned above and barrows armour+ rune defender>dragon+dfs as you'll hit more. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 First of all the Rune Defender is the best melee shield in the game unless you need super high defence. If you can make over 25k/hr Barrows is best. second off all rune defender is not a shield, third off all its only gud for str bonuses, forth of all dfs is better then defender it got str bonuses and defence bonuses I agree the defender isn't a shield in a conventional sense but it deos go in the shield slot. I think that is what is meant by it being a shield. On the topic of how good a defender is I cant comment cos I don't even have a bronze defener but I am aware that defence is more or less a usless skill so all out attack doesn't seems like a bad idea. IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 First of all the Rune Defender is the best melee shield in the game unless you need super high defence. If you can make over 25k/hr Barrows is best. second off all rune defender is not a shield, third off all its only gud for str bonuses, forth of all dfs is better then defender it got str bonuses and defence bonuses First off, it is by all intents and purposes a shield because of the fact that it goes in the shield slot. Don't be a smartass, it's not clever. Second of all, did you forget the attack, i.e. accuracy bonuses which are exponentially more valuable than defense which is amazingly easy to come by? Third off, the DFS is not better than the defender if you have a decent defense and/or armor. It IS NOT better than the defender. That's a fact, not an opinion. The Defender get's more exp per hour and saves more food because you're killing the monster faster. Lastly, the defender has Strength Bonuses as well as a bit defense and most importantly Attack Bonuses. The DFS is an useless piece of junk and if the only use for one is purely for asthetic purposes. If you use a DFS over a Rune Defender for efficiency, then you're an idiot. Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khandajatt Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 First of all the Rune Defender is the best melee shield in the game unless you need super high defence. If you can make over 25k/hr Barrows is best. second off all rune defender is not a shield, third off all its only gud for str bonuses, forth of all dfs is better then defender it got str bonuses and defence bonuses First off, it is by all intents and purposes a shield because of the fact that it goes in the shield slot. Don't be a smartass, it's not clever. Second of all, did you forget the attack, i.e. accuracy bonuses which are exponentially more valuable than defense which is amazingly easy to come by? Third off, the DFS is not better than the defender if you have a decent defense and/or armor. It IS NOT better than the defender. That's a fact, not an opinion. The Defender get's more exp per hour and saves more food because you're killing the monster faster. Lastly, the defender has Strength Bonuses as well as a bit defense and most importantly Attack Bonuses. The DFS is an useless piece of junk and if the only use for one is purely for asthetic purposes. If you use a DFS over a Rune Defender for efficiency, then you're an idiot. then call me an idiot :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Idiot. Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khandajatt Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Idiot. thanks you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MstrMonopoly Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 DFS can be useful as a surprise PKing weapon, equip it and dragonfire that n00b. I piety the fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyWL Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I will put it plain and simple.. Statswise; a Dragonfire Shield uncharged is a useful as a Mithril Kiteshield. Whereas Charged it is the best shield in the game in both offence(st, att) and defence. Rune Defender is THE BEST AVAILABLE (at lower levels) shield in the game as it offers good attack and strength bonuses. If you combine with barrows it can be just as good as a Dragonfire Shield's defence. So the weigh in.. Rune Defender = Dragonfire Shield. They are equally good. But: Rune Defender: 100,000 coins in Supplies to get. Such as food, armour in the animator, potions etc etc Dragonfire Shield: 15,000,000 coins MINIMUM! (unless dropped as a visage but goodluck anytime soon lol) and may even be close to 20M! I know which one i would prefer.. 99 Fishing | 99 Cooking | 99 Woodcutting | | 99 Herblore | 99 Prayer | | 99 Runecrafting | 99 Fletching | 99 Hitpoints | 99 Range |Youtube: AnthonyOnRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I will put it plain and simple.. Statswise; a Dragonfire Shield uncharged is a useful as a Mithril Kiteshield. Whereas Charged it is the best shield in the game in both offence(st, att) and defence. Rune Defender is THE BEST AVAILABLE (at lower levels) shield in the game as it offers good attack and strength bonuses. If you combine with barrows it can be just as good as a Dragonfire Shield's defence. So the weigh in.. Rune Defender = Dragonfire Shield. They are equally good. But: Rune Defender: 100,000 coins in Supplies to get. Such as food, armour in the animator, potions etc etc Dragonfire Shield: 15,000,000 coins MINIMUM! (unless dropped as a visage but goodluck anytime soon lol) and may even be close to 20M! I know which one i would prefer.. Even with costs weighted. DFS has *almost* no uses. Barrows degradation costs ~3-5k/hour, so it's the best. Bandos is a little above it, but not by much. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I will put it plain and simple.. Statswise; a Dragonfire Shield uncharged is a useful as a Mithril Kiteshield. Whereas Charged it is the best shield in the game in both offence(st, att) and defence. Rune Defender is THE BEST AVAILABLE (at lower levels) shield in the game as it offers good attack and strength bonuses. If you combine with barrows it can be just as good as a Dragonfire Shield's defence. So the weigh in.. Rune Defender = Dragonfire Shield. They are equally good. But: Rune Defender: 100,000 coins in Supplies to get. Such as food, armour in the animator, potions etc etc Dragonfire Shield: 15,000,000 coins MINIMUM! (unless dropped as a visage but goodluck anytime soon lol) and may even be close to 20M! I know which one i would prefer.. No, no, no. Rune defender is BETTER than Dragonfire shield. You are taking less damage due to faster kills, and gaining more experience as well. Dragonfire shield is, for all intents and purposes, overpriced crap. Dear god, 90% of the Runescape community is deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meb Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 DFS can be useful as a surprise PKing weapon, equip it and dragonfire that n00b. BOOM 20 IN YOUR FACE Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I will put it plain and simple.. Statswise; a Dragonfire Shield uncharged is a useful as a Mithril Kiteshield. Whereas Charged it is the best shield in the game in both offence(st, att) and defence. Rune Defender is THE BEST AVAILABLE (at lower levels) shield in the game as it offers good attack and strength bonuses. If you combine with barrows it can be just as good as a Dragonfire Shield's defence. So the weigh in.. Rune Defender = Dragonfire Shield. They are equally good. But: Rune Defender: 100,000 coins in Supplies to get. Such as food, armour in the animator, potions etc etc Dragonfire Shield: 15,000,000 coins MINIMUM! (unless dropped as a visage but goodluck anytime soon lol) and may even be close to 20M! I know which one i would prefer.. No, no, no. Rune defender is BETTER than Dragonfire shield. You are taking less damage due to faster kills, and gaining more experience as well. Dragonfire shield is, for all intents and purposes, overpriced crap. Dear god, 90% of the Runescape community is deluded. I don't claim to know which is best but it seems it's a case of every body else is wrong and your right ... IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I will put it plain and simple.. Statswise; a Dragonfire Shield uncharged is a useful as a Mithril Kiteshield. Whereas Charged it is the best shield in the game in both offence(st, att) and defence. Rune Defender is THE BEST AVAILABLE (at lower levels) shield in the game as it offers good attack and strength bonuses. If you combine with barrows it can be just as good as a Dragonfire Shield's defence. So the weigh in.. Rune Defender = Dragonfire Shield. They are equally good. But: Rune Defender: 100,000 coins in Supplies to get. Such as food, armour in the animator, potions etc etc Dragonfire Shield: 15,000,000 coins MINIMUM! (unless dropped as a visage but goodluck anytime soon lol) and may even be close to 20M! I know which one i would prefer.. No, no, no. Rune defender is BETTER than Dragonfire shield. You are taking less damage due to faster kills, and gaining more experience as well. Dragonfire shield is, for all intents and purposes, overpriced crap. Dear god, 90% of the Runescape community is deluded. I don't claim to know which is best but it seems it's a case of every body else is wrong and your right ... Simple fact is: Extensive testing by myself and other people have consistantly showed rune defender far outwieghing Dragonfire shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I will put it plain and simple.. Statswise; a Dragonfire Shield uncharged is a useful as a Mithril Kiteshield. Whereas Charged it is the best shield in the game in both offence(st, att) and defence. Rune Defender is THE BEST AVAILABLE (at lower levels) shield in the game as it offers good attack and strength bonuses. If you combine with barrows it can be just as good as a Dragonfire Shield's defence. So the weigh in.. Rune Defender = Dragonfire Shield. They are equally good. But: Rune Defender: 100,000 coins in Supplies to get. Such as food, armour in the animator, potions etc etc Dragonfire Shield: 15,000,000 coins MINIMUM! (unless dropped as a visage but goodluck anytime soon lol) and may even be close to 20M! I know which one i would prefer.. No, no, no. Rune defender is BETTER than Dragonfire shield. You are taking less damage due to faster kills, and gaining more experience as well. Dragonfire shield is, for all intents and purposes, overpriced crap. Dear god, 90% of the Runescape community is deluded. I don't claim to know which is best but it seems it's a case of every body else is wrong and your right ... Simple fact is: Extensive testing by myself and other people have consistantly showed rune defender far outwieghing Dragonfire shield. Well I could say I have done extensive testing and a few other's have come to same conclusion that the defender is crap, were is the proof? This is off topic since the headline of the thread is about dragon armour. IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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