TWR Multiclanning rule, discussion + poll.

[generaldesor]

I like Yguys one.

[Danny_TeamDan]

The only exceptions I'm willing to make is if my members want to be in a P2P based clan and they can still be active then great :thumbup: . Also since we're not doing pkri's since we're clearly not ready for those yet :lol: I'd tell my members sure go for it but realise some pkri's can take up a lot of time and if you can't be active in my clan then you'll have to make a decscion. And ofcourse there's pc/sw/gw/teams etc. that can be excused. So I think for TWR it should be up to the leaders when making the declaration and a mixture of a cap of clans allowed to be in.

[thiesje]

Personally I'd rather have multiclanning outside TWR not to be allowed, just for the list to be official. You'd also be done with the multiclanning issue (assuming all official clans disallow that) right away. No offense to teams, but I think it's better for the list itself, also for the image non-TWR clans have now. I have the feeling that some teams might hinder clans to join TWR now, with the rules we have.

[Gamerr]

Added the poll. You can vote for 1 option, so think wisely. When there's a clear winner that rule will be brought into action, however if it's close between 2 (for example 25% and 24% of the votes) we'll hold a new poll with only those 2 options etc.

 

 

 

The poll will be running for 2 weeks (so until the 28th of july 2009).

 

All vote please! :thumbup:

 

 

 

Note: it would be higly appreciated if you also wrote down what you voted & why.

[Uffan5]

The cap makes the most sense so there isn't as much complaining just about a couple members. A cap would put every person in TWR on a fair playing field with multi clanners so no clan has an advantage in that area.

[decebal]

I said let the clans decide because it allows flexibility. So, if we say multiclanning is not allowed, but the player declaring wants there to be like the old twr rules, they can say in the declaration so.

[Gamerr]

Oh I'd like to add that if you choose the option "let the clans decide" that it isn't a reason to decline a war eh. If clan A declares and says "no multiclanners allowed" but clan B doesn't agree, they will have to find a solution inter-clanwise (or with the help of a TWR mod).

[kerrigo]

for me personaly i like option #4, as some clans dont mind multi-clanning whilist others are more strict.

 

so letting the clans declaring/negotiating make their own resolve works.

[Viking_Ship]

Tip.it has teams and country clans in this tournament/league

 

 

 

Second option is utopic

[Kimberly]

Mind you, just because the poll options exist doesn't mean that these are the only options being considered. Don't hesitate to give feedback! :thumbup:

 

 

 

Thanks for those who have been voting and contributing recently. I know that TWR issues don't exactly concern the entire clan world and I appreciate everyone else's tolerance in this matter.

[khaloude]

I think we should not encourage the Multiclanning.

 

 

 

Multiclanning will make alot of problems, so I think being in 1 TWR clan is enough.

[Dfdarkpyro]

Deffinitely only 1 TWR clan, I'd say cap it at 2 official clans, and both of them can't be on the same warring list.

[MrGwas]

well multi-clanning generally isn't in the spirit of clanning at all. Some clans forbid it completely. It takes commitment to be in one clan and it means that your dedication won't be to a sole clan, i believe that it shouldn't be encouraged on TWR meaning that if a person participates in another clan that is an official Warrring (be it pvp or cwa or what have you) and that a no multi-clanning rule is placed then the clan is to lose that war. as jc stated inthe other topic it wouldn't be fair if one clan had another whole clan helping them. So to recap I think TWR rules should be that you can only in one official warring clan (some are obiviously and widley known as country clans/teams)

[ipwnage4lyfe]

well multi-clanning generally isn't in the spirit of clanning at all. Some clans forbid it completely. It takes commitment to be in one clan and it means that your dedication won't be to a sole clan, i believe that it shouldn't be encouraged on TWR meaning that if a person participates in another clan that is an official Warrring (be it pvp or cwa or what have you) and that a no multi-clanning rule is placed then the clan is to lose that war. as jc stated inthe other topic it wouldn't be fair if one clan had another whole clan helping them. So to recap I think TWR rules should be that you can only in one official warring clan (some are obiviously and widley known as country clans/teams)

 

 

 

 

Yeah I agree with David though. Not meant as a flame bait here but I am going to show an example.

 

 

 

!clan Siul_72

 

-[OO]RuneScript- *** [ CLAN ]: Siul 72 is in 4 clans: Echo of Silence, Tempted Killers, redemption army, Echo of Silence Tournament

 

!clan Lyfe_Rang3r

 

-[OO]RuneScript- *** [ CLAN ]: Lyfe Rang3r is in 7 clans: Tempted Killers, Failed Tankers United, Divine Kings Future Applicants, Byah Squad, Team Kenya, Team Dark Hearts, Divine Kings

 

!clan Apparitor

 

-[OO]RuneScript- *** [ CLAN ]: Apparitor is in 3 clans: ALL DK EVER, Divine Kings, Tempted Killers

 

!clan Wallygayter

 

-[LO]RuneScript- *** [ CLAN ]: Wallygayter is in 14 clans: Zoey Jelly Belly, Blood and Honor, Team Relentless Ending List, Tempted Killers, Eternal Soul Keeper For Life, All Exodus for CJ Tournament, Dark Dynasty Darkness Awaits RSC Tourney, Dark Dynasty Retired, Zeldy, Association of Short Shorts Elite Squad, A Warrior For Life, Dark Dynasty Combat Competition Under 115, Soulja Melles Zoo, Exodus Future Applicants

 

I lol'd at the above

 

 

 

Mr Snickerz is in 9 clans: Spirit List10, Team Ashley, Chefs Hat Unit, Generation X, ALL DK EVER, All Adrenaline Ever, Soul Slayer FTW List 8, Tempted Killers, Divine Kings

 

 

 

J Unior5 is in 12 clans: ALL DK EVER, Team Adrenaline FA List, All Exodus for CJ Tournament, All Adrenaline Ever, Team Alan, Noob Power, Tempted Killers, Exodus Future Applicants, flip flops, Spirit List12, Zoey Jelly Belly, Flawwless

 

 

 

Neto242 is in 14 clans: Eternal Soul Keeper For Life, Afro, All Soldiers of Destiny Ever, Tempted Killers, friends of hassanahmadk, A Warrior For Life, All Darkness Awaits Ever, Zoey Jelly Belly, JTs Crew, Fast Food Crew, Exodus Future Applicants, Grudge, All Exodus for CJ Tournament, Heart Unit CM List 7

 

 

 

Lovelost is in 20 clans: Exodus, I Was Once Ec1ipse, IS End List, Teezys Real G Friends, All MoW Ever, Team Bella, All GK Ever, All tkoblitz ever, Anti Racism Unit, Sals Clan Discussion, All Unknown Bounty Hunters Ever, Pack of Wolves, Dylagors Epic Army, Tempted Killers, Legendary Kenyans, Runescape Pro Tankers, Operation Defeat, Anti Terrorist Foundation For Anti Terrorism, All Exodus for CJ Tournament, Runescap

 

 

 

Sparze is in 12 clans: Violent Resolution, Tempted Killers, redemption army, ALL DK EVER, Team Adrenaline FA List, Justice League, Team Ashley, Violent Resolution, Sals Clan Discussion, Generation X, All Adrenaline Ever, Souls Fury

 

 

 

]: Blaze Five is in 15 clans: Collision, Teezys Real G Friends, Spirit List6, Soulja Melles Zoo, All Unknown Bounty Hunters Ever, All Soldiers of Destiny Ever, Robs Fruit Basket, Tempted Killers, Soul Slayer FTW List 3, Chefs Hat Unit, Justice League, Collision CJ, redemption army, Heart Unit CM List 5, W141 Krew

 

 

 

-[LO]RuneScript- *** [ CLAN ]: Stijn3vs is in 4 clans: Tempted Killers, ALL DK EVER, Divine Kings, Team Alan

 

 

 

-[LO]RuneScript- *** [ CLAN ]: Hackyslash43 is in 4 clans: Godz Of Wild, Tempted Killers, Justice League, shadowfalls

 

 

 

So that is 12 names right there. If these people are fairly active and come to most of their wars. This could make a big difference in a fullout.

 

 

 

Discuss.

[Uffan5]

LOL i guess any clan could ask people from clans outside of TWR to join for these wars with the current rules which clearly puts the clans against multiclanning at a big disadvantage :?

[Danny_TeamDan]

LOL i guess any clan could ask people from clans outside of TWR to join for these wars with the current rules which clearly puts the clans against multiclanning at a big disadvantage :?

 

 

 

I disagree because you can compromise a fair set of rules, if you feel the opposing clan has a significant amount of multi clanners put a cap on it :thumbup: Just hopefully the other clan will understand that both side want a fair match :pray:

[Uffan5]

Not with the current rules you can't.

[generaldesor]

Deffinitely only 1 TWR clan, I'd say cap it at 2 official clans, and both of them can't be on the same warring list.

 

 

 

this.

 

 

 

also, no mean to flamebait,but ever since the last week I see some exodus joined tk,evertons post kinda show that too, and their helping them in their wars,I dont know if this is good or not under TWR mod eyes, but to me I think it isnt, and it is affecting the ranks.

[sparze]

Deffinitely only 1 TWR clan, I'd say cap it at 2 official clans, and both of them can't be on the same warring list.

 

 

 

this.

 

 

 

also, no mean to flamebait,but ever since the last week I see some exodus joined tk,evertons post kinda show that too, and their helping them in their wars,I dont know if this is good or not under TWR mod eyes, but to me I think it isnt, and it is affecting the ranks.

 

 

 

Well people from exo can join other clans from TWR if they chose to

 

 

 

nothing wrong with 1 pvp clan and 1 TWR ;)

[Kimberly]

Deffinitely only 1 TWR clan, I'd say cap it at 2 official clans, and both of them can't be on the same warring list.

 

 

 

this.

 

 

 

also, no mean to flamebait,but ever since the last week I see some exodus joined tk,evertons post kinda show that too, and their helping them in their wars,I dont know if this is good or not under TWR mod eyes, but to me I think it isnt, and it is affecting the ranks.

 

 

 

Words don't get a lot done, proof does :thumbup:

 

 

 

Matters like this should be brought up in the Conclave until then try not to name any names.

[ipwnage4lyfe]

Ninane read my post....

[Kimberly]

I'm refraining from posting my opinion regarding multiclanning at this time. It would be counterproductive, since most people would confuse it and take what a cl/mod says as a final decision.

[Viking_Ship]

We went personal, I see

 

 

 

When you war some clan, you look at combat average and amount of members. If they suit you, you declare/accept. If they have multi-clanners, it's their loss, maybe they have war or something

 

 

 

Our multi-clanners are in PvP clans and they are daily active in TK, they are part of TK (though I had no idea about 3 of them)

 

Holding eye on multi-clanners amount is in every clan's intrest, if you don't want become a team, so we are holding eye on multi-clanners and we try hold it below 10

 

 

 

TK isn't only one in Tip.it who has multi-clanners. Look at Legendz, Dragon Hunters, and teams like Legends Never Die, The Sparta and TKO Blitz.

 

Multi-clanner rule would make resign all teams/country clans and make Tip.it very small

 

 

 

Best solution is too put that multi-clanning is valid reason to decline and end this discussion but even Downfall has 3 multi-clanners.

[Nobody]

You should only be able to fight for one TWR clan banning multi-clanning in general is a good way to gut the TWR and CD.

[generaldesor]

Deffinitely only 1 TWR clan, I'd say cap it at 2 official clans, and both of them can't be on the same warring list.

 

 

 

this.

 

 

 

also, no mean to flamebait,but ever since the last week I see some exodus joined tk,evertons post kinda show that too, and their helping them in their wars,I dont know if this is good or not under TWR mod eyes, but to me I think it isnt, and it is affecting the ranks.

 

 

 

Words don't get a lot done, proof does :thumbup:

 

 

 

Matters like this should be brought up in the Conclave until then try not to name any names.

 

 

 

 

 

I thought evertons proof and the words of viking ship would be enough.

 

Tk has ALOT of multiclanners.Not sure if is below or above 10. If this is acceptable or not is up to the TWR mods.