Dracula_Magic Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 Could it have something to do with the Serbian currency?? Um no. The reasoning clearly says that due to financial sanctions on the current regime, Jagex cannot offer member services to him anymore. Serbia was sanctioned before, but definitely not right now. Legally, Jagex CAN provide this user members. It's a MISTAKE for sure. Well seeing as the last time I can find that Serbia was sanctioned was 1992, and dracula has been a member for 7 years and has not received this message before, there must be some reasoning for the messages recent creation in the first place, right? It's not like these things just appear out of thin air. The financial sanctions they speak of likely have to do either with their national currency, trade deficit, or outstanding debt. Also it could be some trade embargo that the UK put into place with Serbia.. I'd like to think that this is a mistake, but it seems to be an odd case and i would assume all Serbs are being denied membership... not just this individual.. why would they deny membership (revenue $$) to anyone without a good reason? They'd probably be pretty reluctant to edit their code to do this and I can't imagine them "accidentally" doing it.. I can't imagine them accidentally doing it nether But I will see... zzZZ [- Glory From Beyond -]ZZzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula_Magic Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 It is not a mistake,I just recieved an email from Jagex as a responce for email I sent to them: My email (sent on 12th july): " I have recieved an email telling me that there are financial sanctions affecting my country,and that I am no longer able to subscribe for a membership I have been member for 6 years,and I live and play in Serbia.I would like to know if this was a mistake,and I would like to see more details on this,and the reason why such action has been taken? " Responce (received on 13th July,day later) " Thank you for contacting Jagex Billing Support. I am afraid that we are duty bound to adhere these sanctions in a number of countries worldwide. This is the stance that we are now taking and will remain doing so for the foreseeable future. Please remember that you have full access to all our free content which I advise that you continue to take full advantage of. Hope this answers your query. Please always refer to the Game Guide and Help link on the top of our website to find the answer to your queries quicker. Also check out our Billing Forums for other questions and answers. Only members will be able to post, but non-members can still view all information. Yours sincerely, Mod Chris B Love RuneScape? Then master the minigame with FunOrb, the new gaming site from Jagex, at http://www.funorb.com. " zzZZ [- Glory From Beyond -]ZZzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotch_Blade Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Maybe they know something we don't... It's highly possible that these sanctions have been put in place, before the public's knowing... My step-dad set up for the war in Iraq four or five months before the "conflict" began. Good luck, try selecting a different account/getting a trusted friend from overseas to buy membership. You could set-up a PayPal with your country as the UK or the US, add money, and if that doesn't work, find a trusted friend and send them money for one of those membership giftcards, and have the e-mail you the code. That really sucks though mate. #-o My Gamercard | Click for Blog | Mining Guide | Illumination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauke Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 It's weird how they don't answer the "why" question... Twitter ||| Google+ ||| Facebook ||| LinkedIn ||| My very interesting weblog about science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula_Magic Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 It's weird how they don't answer the "why" question... I guess they never do... Its just thing that made me sure its not a mistake,so I dont really care why... And btw,Im not going to waste my time on runescape anymore because I know that f2p isnt that great,and I dont want to spend time on a game that brings me no future So I guess i quit Edit: From what I understood it wasn't just my country,it was series of countries I think,but not quite sure,and I cant even guess why zzZZ [- Glory From Beyond -]ZZzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast647 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Wow that really sucks dude. Come to #tip-it on Swift IRC, if you're cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I'd check out the "financial sanctions" that Serbia has. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordThyse Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 How about going to a different country (i don't know if you live close to a border) and trying to upgrade your account to members there? Boooooooooochackalackaaa!!! >:o Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 do you have family living somewhere in an other country? give them the money and let them pay for you ;) http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaer Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 That is such bs. Ask them what sanctions are in place against Serbia? And you might want to take a look at the UN website to see if you can find something.. that's so ridiculous. I doubt that mod even understands what he's talking about... That's why he didn't answer "why".. Write another query to them again, and this time emphasize the WHY part. But I think there is a way to mask your IP using mirrors or something, so they don't see your IP is from Serbia.. but I have no idea how to do it. Edit: Okay I've done some research and there are NO sanctions in place against Serbia.. the closest I could find was back in 2000. Trust me people; sanctions are not something taken lightly. It's a pretty serious thing for relations to sanction another country.. they are pretty much a last resort when it comes to diplomacy.. if Serbia was sanctioned again, we would know about it. Send them another query and tell them that they've made a mistake, and that there are no sanctions against Serbia. [2010] Proud Member of Downfall[2004-2005] Former Leader of The Unbreakables, Former Member of Corruption, Former Member of 'The' Clan(...and Anarchy for a few weeks... shhh...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 That is such bs. Ask them what sanctions are in place against Serbia? And you might want to take a look at the UN website to see if you can find something.. that's so ridiculous. I doubt that mod even understands what he's talking about... That's why he didn't answer "why".. Write another query to them again, and this time emphasize the WHY part. But I think there is a way to mask your IP using mirrors or something, so they don't see your IP is from Serbia.. but I have no idea how to do it. I do know :D go to www.proxy.org, select a proxy and go to runescape.com, you will be having problems with java but just select that you can only see a white box ;) http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 do you have family living somewhere in an other country? give them the money and let them pay for you ;) Just a note: That would be against the rules unless it is of your direct family. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 do you have family living somewhere in an other country? give them the money and let them pay for you ;) Just a note: That would be against the rules unless it is of your direct family. I am not english what is the difference between family and direct family? uncles and cousins etc. aren't direct family? http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaer Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 do you have family living somewhere in an other country? give them the money and let them pay for you ;) Just a note: That would be against the rules unless it is of your direct family. I am not english what is the difference between family and direct family? uncles and cousins etc. aren't direct family? Yeah, that's actually a pretty funny thing I've noticed. I guess Jagex doesn't realize that for different cultures, direct/immediate families mean different things. Families in Canada, the US, and most of Europe tend to be smaller than other places.. Direct families in the "Western" sense = your mother, father, and siblings. Your cousins and uncles are not part of that kinship. But yeah I could see that confusing lots of people. [2010] Proud Member of Downfall[2004-2005] Former Leader of The Unbreakables, Former Member of Corruption, Former Member of 'The' Clan(...and Anarchy for a few weeks... shhh...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Just try contacting Jagex directly, or using the billing section on the FSOF for a clearer answer. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meme79 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 do you have family living somewhere in an other country? give them the money and let them pay for you ;) Just a note: That would be against the rules unless it is of your direct family. yeh, gl inforcing that XBL gamertag: SeismicTriangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePie Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 That's strange. I wonder what other countries are they talking about. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Tails Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 That's odd. I mean REALLY odd. There are NO sanctions (that any of us know of), the mod from Jagex doesn't answer the "why" question, and no proof of anything being wrong and so on... and there's the fact that Jagex is cutting itself some revenue, albeit a little for now. Why don't you try finding someone else from Serbia who pays for Runescape. Not sure how you would go about doing that, but maybe it'd shed some light on the matter. Follower of GuthixThe quill is a miracle, for it drinks darkness and sheds light. Oh right, by the way, I'm a girl. No more calling me a guy you lot~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsofthelord Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 It might be hard but I think that this ^^ is your best bet. Maybe that way you can find out what is going on. It seems weird that Jagex would get advance notice of any possible sanctions. I also dug a little into this matter and the last sanctions against your country were as you said, almost 10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 do you have family living somewhere in an other country? give them the money and let them pay for you ;) Just a note: That would be against the rules unless it is of your direct family. yeh, gl inforcing that It would be just like the blocking adverts offense. They can only get you if you admit it (eg, you're an idiot). ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaer Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 That's odd. I mean REALLY odd. There are NO sanctions (that any of us know of), the mod from Jagex doesn't answer the "why" question, and no proof of anything being wrong and so on... and there's the fact that Jagex is cutting itself some revenue, albeit a little for now. Why don't you try finding someone else from Serbia who pays for Runescape. Not sure how you would go about doing that, but maybe it'd shed some light on the matter. The mod didn't answer "why" because he had no idea.. he just assumed there were sanctions against Serbia.. if you tell them there are NO sanctions against your country, they will look into it. It must be a bug. Like I said, sanctions are a serious matter, and we would know if there were sanctions against Serbia, like there are on Iran and North Korea right now.. Big Bad Serbia (that's why my social studies teacher used to call it in high school :lol: ) has been behaving well in the last decade, so there is no way it is being sanctioned right now! Good luck! [2010] Proud Member of Downfall[2004-2005] Former Leader of The Unbreakables, Former Member of Corruption, Former Member of 'The' Clan(...and Anarchy for a few weeks... shhh...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovorette Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 It is not a mistake,I just recieved an email from Jagex as a responce for email I sent to them: My email (sent on 12th july): " I have recieved an email telling me that there are financial sanctions affecting my country,and that I am no longer able to subscribe for a membership I have been member for 6 years,and I live and play in Serbia.I would like to know if this was a mistake,and I would like to see more details on this,and the reason why such action has been taken? " Responce (received on 13th July,day later) " Thank you for contacting Jagex Billing Support. I am afraid that we are duty bound to adhere these sanctions in a number of countries worldwide. This is the stance that we are now taking and will remain doing so for the foreseeable future. Please remember that you have full access to all our free content which I advise that you continue to take full advantage of. Hope this answers your query. Please always refer to the Game Guide and Help link on the top of our website to find the answer to your queries quicker. Also check out our Billing Forums for other questions and answers. Only members will be able to post, but non-members can still view all information. Yours sincerely, Mod Chris B Love RuneScape? Then master the minigame with FunOrb, the new gaming site from Jagex, at http://www.funorb.com. " This response is quite strange. It sounds as if Jagex, on its own, is taking a stance against certain countries. I wonder if they have decided to implement a company policy of some sort. Though why against Serbia is quite the question. It's really pretty fascinating, unless it's a mistake which it very well could still be, and I don't blame you at all for washing your hands of the whole matter. But please pursue it ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maulmachine Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hey there, I don't think that Jagex made a mistake. I decided to do a slight bit of research and found out that there was an updated document in regards to sanctions of the EU. I read it and I didn't really see any exclusive mention of Serbia, but I did see mention of a website that had a complete list of the countries being sanctioned against. http://ec.europa.eu/external_relations/cfsp/sanctions/measures.htm Now, that list mentions Serbia as being sanctioned against. When you go to see the reason it says to see the Yugoslavian reason for that sanction. If you go to see what reasons there are the only ones listed are for people who have committed crimes. So, I can't find any notices that anything has changed recently. Out of curiosity, what date did you receive this message? Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovorette Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Out of curiosity, what date did you receive this message? In looking at the original post it seems it was July 12, 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaer Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I can't open the page (only the header shows up -_- ) What's that sanctions page dated as?? [2010] Proud Member of Downfall[2004-2005] Former Leader of The Unbreakables, Former Member of Corruption, Former Member of 'The' Clan(...and Anarchy for a few weeks... shhh...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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