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[Nero]

The point was he left some of his people there.

Tip.it was down all yesterday and today :'(

 

Ion research continues. I've decided that my full population of 260million-ish has now reached Harakkis. Some have taken private shuttles to Uthiah.

 

The base on Ogrekus has expanded further.

 

I'm back in the NWO.

 

Of course not. That would be cowardly.

Haha you just called Rocco a coward.

 

I was referring to your ready built fortifications - the asteroid fields.

Oh, you mean the asteroids that I'm moving into Yggdrasil's system?

 

Yes, I agree with you on this point. But making up new powerful metals is a similar problem, but whatever, this isn't important.

It's not all powerful, projectile weapons will still mess it up badly.

 

So you're godmodding to keep up with everyone? What?

I believe the word you are looking for is building. Or, alternatively, producing. If that is the case, then yes, I am building ships in order to keep up with everyone. What a stellar observation Dungeonal.

 

No, you won't, because you get angry with us when we type BS so you won't do it either.

I let pass quite a lot of BS in this thread actually. And I love how you use the royal "we".

 

You want people to play fair, not godmod, be sensible etc, you have to do it as well.

I'm playing quite fair. Genetics and Bio engineering are my dominant strength, yet I can't use them? Hm.

 

And yes, I can get 1b people in around 7 years. Considering I have a base population on 1b+, and then you just add on all the other factors for population growth that I have going.

[Aeon_]

Am I the only one with the same budget? :blink:

 

Haven't had any boosts to it.

 

What do you mean? Your budget changes every year unless you dont earn or lose any money

I don't know how to work it out. :unsure:

[a_bert]

Haha you just called Rocco a coward.

 

Oh my, aren't I a bad person.

 

Oh, you mean the asteroids that I'm moving into Yggdrasil's system?

 

Asteroid fields are popping up all around Yggdrasil's system

 

Sorry, I missed the class where we learnt that "popping up" means "I'm moving something over here".

 

It's not all powerful, projectile weapons will still mess it up badly.

 

Super.

 

I believe the word you are looking for is building. Or, alternatively, producing. If that is the case, then yes, I am building ships in order to keep up with everyone. What a stellar observation Dungeonal.

 

Nope, mine are just as powerful as they were before, I just need to keep up with the amount of ships everyone is building. And the 1.6tril accounts for Earth GDP only. :)

 

No, I definitely meant godmodding. I assumed that your spaceships has cost more than 100b each, considering mine cost between 300 and 400. I'm apologise for this misunderstanding. However, logically, my battlecruisers will be, in more respects than not, superior to yours, according this data? Yes, money isn't everything, but as you state later in your post, your specialties are "Genetics and bio engineering".

 

I let pass quite a lot of BS in this thread actually. And I love how you use the royal "we".

 

Then don't, comment on it, take your anger out on the person BSing and not on the thread as a whole.

 

I'm playing quite fair. Genetics and Bio engineering are my dominant strength, yet I can't use them? Hm.

 

And yes, I can get 1b people in around 7 years. Considering I have a base population on 1b+, and then you just add on all the other factors for population growth that I have going.

 

I didn't know people on Midgard could [bleep] people on Earth. That's pretty impressive.

[VEGHATERMEATLOVER]

Are we allowed to pay high one off payments for single techs?

[Icuownage]

Are we allowed to pay high one off payments for single techs?

 

 

No, thats [developmentally delayed]ed, a high budget in one tech will decrease the years, by like 5

[a_bert]

5 is an overstatement, imo.

[Nero]

Sorry, I missed the class where we learnt that "popping up" means "I'm moving something over here".

I posted about moving them a while ago. But sure, let's continue to debate the choice of words when the meaning has been explained already quite clearly.

 

Super.

Thanks for asking,

 

No, I definitely meant godmodding. I assumed that your spaceships has cost more than 100b each, considering mine cost between 300 and 400. I'm apologise for this misunderstanding. However, logically, my battlecruisers will be, in more respects than not, superior to yours, according this data? Yes, money isn't everything, but as you state later in your post, your specialties are "Genetics and bio engineering".

Nope. Actually you don't have any spaceships.

 

Then don't, comment on it, take your anger out on the person BSing and not on the thread as a whole.

I am taking my anger out on the thread as a whole? How, pray tell?

 

I didn't know people on Midgard could [bleep] people on Earth. That's pretty impressive.

Quite an advancement, eh?

[a_bert]

I posted about moving them a while ago. But sure, let's continue to debate the choice of words when the meaning has been explained already quite clearly.

 

The choice of wording is quite important. It's my opinion if that if I, or someone outside your alliance web had posted what you did, you would have thrown up a [cabbage]storm if they were as unclear as you.

Nope. Actually you don't have any spaceships.

 

Stop being butthurt because Sere liked me enough to want more of an alliance than just "yeah okay let's share tech woop", or because I actually bother to argue with you.

I am taking my anger out on the thread as a whole? How, pray tell?

 

Dusty, come on, 1 out of 3 of your posts are full of anger.

 

Quite an advancement, eh?

 

When all else fails, joke.

[The_Mather1]

Forgot one thing earlier;

The Goa'uld queens spawned 50 new symbiotes this year(they can give birth to 100 each actually but you would just complain if they spawned over 100% of current ammount), these will soon mature in enough to do the prim'ta(be inserted in Jaffa(increasing theur ammount) and later take hosts.

[Nero]

The choice of wording is quite important. It's my opinion if that if I, or someone outside your alliance web had posted what you did, you would have thrown up a [cabbage]storm if they were as unclear as you.

Yes, because me saying "I'm moving asteroids into my system to create defensive positions", and then later posting an update for the project, is unclear.

 

Stop being butthurt because Sere liked me enough to want more of an alliance than just "yeah okay let's share tech woop", or because I actually bother to argue with you.

Hm? I was just reminding you that you don't actually have anything (land, people, ships) on this thread, since Sere owns it all.

 

Dusty, come on, 1 out of 3 of your posts are full of anger.

Agreed. I'm not taking it out on the thread though :wink:

 

When all else fails, joke.

I didn't quite feel like explaining it for a 16th time. Oh, will you ever forgive me?

[Seraphi]

Forgot one thing earlier;

The Goa'uld queens spawned 50 new symbiotes this year(they can give birth to 100 each actually but you would just complain if they spawned over 100% of current ammount), these will soon mature in enough to do the prim'ta(be inserted in Jaffa(increasing theur ammount) and later take hosts.

Wait what? Aren't they those things that you make a [bleep] ton of tax money from?

I smell a minor godmod.

[a_bert]

Yes, because me saying "I'm moving asteroids into my system to create defensive positions", and then later posting an update for the project, is unclear.

 

Fact is, I had no idea what your real meaning was, so yes, it was unclear.

 

Hm? I was just reminding you that you don't actually have anything (land, people, ships) on this thread, since Sere owns it all.

 

If that's how you choose to interpret our 'agreement', however, this isn't really the case at all.

Agreed. I'm not taking it out on the thread though :wink:

 

I don't see your logic here. If you're posting, angrily, then yeah, you are taking it out on the thread.

 

I didn't quite feel like explaining it for a 16th time. Oh, will you ever forgive me?

 

Back to the start of the circle, you can't populate India in 4 years. It's irrational, no matter how many drugs you have.

[Nero]

Fact is, I had no idea what your real meaning was, so yes, it was unclear.

Maybe then, instead of crying "Godmod!!" and getting all butthurt about it, actually ask? I know, I just blew your mind, didn't I?

 

If that's how you choose to interpret our 'agreement', however, this isn't really the case at all.

That's exactly what it is. You're a protectorate. Or if you want to go with slang, then you're Sere's [bleep]. I'm just pointing out the obvious here, no need to get snarky.

In practice, a protectorate often has direct foreign relations only with the protecting power, so other states must deal with it by approaching the protector. Similarly, the protectorate rarely takes military action on its own, but relies on the protector for its defence. This is distinct from annexation, in that the protector has no formal power to control the internal affairs of the protectorate.

 

I don't see your logic here. If you're posting, angrily, then yeah, you are taking it out on the thread.

*sigh*

 

Back to the start of the circle, you can't populate India in 4 years. It's irrational, no matter how many drugs you have.

I'm not going to even bother.

[The_Mather1]

Forgot one thing earlier;

The Goa'uld queens spawned 50 new symbiotes this year(they can give birth to 100 each actually but you would just complain if they spawned over 100% of current ammount), these will soon mature in enough to do the prim'ta(be inserted in Jaffa(increasing theur ammount) and later take hosts.

Wait what? Aren't they those things that you make a [bleep] ton of tax money from?

I smell a minor godmod.

They take over 20 years to adults, they live up to 1000(at most).

[a_bert]

Maybe then, instead of crying "Godmod!!" and getting all butthurt about it, actually ask? I know, I just blew your mind, didn't I?

 

Treat others how you would like to be treated, Dusty. You moan about people's godmods, 'sarcastically' stick them into your own posts, and except us to sift through the [cabbage] to find what you really mean.

 

That's exactly what it is. You're a protectorate. Or if you want to go with slang, then you're Sere's [bleep]. I'm just pointing out the obvious here, no need to get snarky.

 

A protectorate, in international law, is an autonomous territory that is protected diplomatically or militarily against third parties by a stronger state or entity

 

Pretty sure that the Japanese 'state' is stronger than the Britannian one, but really, this is just you trying to piss me off.

 

 

*sigh*

 

I don't see your logic here. If you're posting, angrily, then yeah, you are taking it out on the thread because people read your posts.

 

I'm not going to even bother.

 

"Want to have a fair discussion? TOO BAD IT'S ME DUSTY."

 

How about this: Do you actually use a formula to work out your Midgard growth rate, or just pick a random number from your head and think to yourself, "Yeah, that looks big enough." ?

[Nero]

Treat others how you would like to be treated, Dusty. You moan about people's godmods, 'sarcastically' stick them into your own posts, and except us to sift through the [cabbage] to find what you really mean.

I'm moaning about people's godmods? You have amnesia or something? The only thing that I found stupid was the magical creation of systems, or the "discovery" of them.

 

Pretty sure that the Japanese 'state' is stronger than the Britannian one, but really, this is just you trying to piss me off.

Then why did you become part of his empire?

 

"Want to have a fair discussion? TOO BAD IT'S ME DUSTY."

This is a perfectly fair discussion. Just because I don't feel like repeating myself you're getting mad?

 

How about this: Do you actually use a formula to work out your Midgard growth rate, or just pick a random number from your head and think to yourself, "Yeah, that looks big enough." ?

If I had a formula would you accept it anyways? No. Why the hell would I bother figuring out the exact number?

[Seraphi]

Wouldn't most of your people be like 1-4 year olds? Meaning that you can't take GPD from them, and I'm guessing that there isn't enough food on the planet since, y'know, babies can't farm things.

 

Regardless of that, I'm still not accepting your "I'm going to add however many people I want to my population" theory.

 

And stop trying to provoke dungeon with the whole protectorate thing, the reason they joined forces was so that the unused budget that either one had could be spent by the other. Dungeon CAN mobilise his military without Sere's permission, but he would have to get Sere's permission to mobilise the BRITANNIAN MILITARY.

And don't try to deny that you are trying to provoke him, because Sere and Dungeon's alliance is totally irrelevent at this point.

[Nero]

Wouldn't most of your people be like 1-4 year olds? Meaning that you can't take GPD from them, and I'm guessing that there isn't enough food on the planet since, y'know, babies can't farm things.

 

Regardless of that, I'm still not accepting your "I'm going to add however the hell many people I want to my population theory".

 

And stop trying to provoke dungeon with the whole protectorate thing, the reason they joined forces was so that the unused budget that either one had could be spent by the other. Dungeon CAN mobilise his military without Sere's permission, but he would have to get Sere's permission to mobilise the BRITANNIAN MILITARY.

Food is shipped in from Birfrost. And I'm not taking GDP from them.

If I was adding as many people as I wanted Midgard would be at a trillion pop right now.

 

Of course I'm provoking him. I want this inevitable war to hurry up and get started, because the thread is getting [bleep]ing boring.

[Seraphi]

Personal insults are not the right way to go about that, in my eyes.

 

And you are essentially adding a random number of people to your population each year.

There is no growth rate, no formula, you just seem to pick and choose a random number.

[The_Mather1]

Wouldn't most of your people be like 1-4 year olds? Meaning that you can't take GPD from them, and I'm guessing that there isn't enough food on the planet since, y'know, babies can't farm things.

 

Regardless of that, I'm still not accepting your "I'm going to add however many people I want to my population" theory.

My population started adult, like everone elses(?).(?)=Unsure of the spelling

 

I never said I could ad as many people I want, I said that Goa'ulds are able to actually reproduce with a rate of 100 symbiotes per queen but that I will not add more than max 50% of the population. And in one or so year the symbiotes can take Jaffa "incubators" and 19 years after that their own hosts.

[a_bert]

I'm moaning about people's godmods? You have amnesia or something? The only thing that I found stupid was the magical creation of systems, or the "discovery" of them.

 

Was it not you who was principally against my telekinesis? At first, at least.

Then why did you become part of his empire?

 

Seemed like a good idea at the time. I liked the prospect of 'our' 'colour' being more widespread. My green was ugly. I'm British.

This is a perfectly fair discussion. Just because I don't feel like repeating myself you're getting mad?

 

I do not remember ever seeing you admit you have been wrong. How can a discussion be fair when you refuse to back down?

 

If I had a formula would you accept it anyways? No. Why the hell would I bother figuring out the exact number?

 

If it was a logical formula, why do you think I would illogically reject it?

[Seraphi]

Wouldn't most of your people be like 1-4 year olds? Meaning that you can't take GPD from them, and I'm guessing that there isn't enough food on the planet since, y'know, babies can't farm things.

 

Regardless of that, I'm still not accepting your "I'm going to add however many people I want to my population" theory.

My population started adult, like everone elses(?).(?)=Unsure of the spelling

 

I never said I could ad as many people I want, I said that Goa'ulds are able to actually reproduce with a rate of 100 symbiotes per queen but that I will not add more than max 50% of the population. And in one or so year the symbiotes can take Jaffa "incubators" and 19 years after that their own hosts.

Heh, I was actually talking to Dusty :mellow:

[Nero]

Was it not you who was principally against my telekinesis? At first, at least.

Nope.

 

Seemed like a good idea at the time. I liked the prospect of 'our' 'colour' being more widespread. My green was ugly. I'm British.

Ah well. I guess you shoul've thought it through.

 

I do not remember ever seeing you admit you have been wrong. How can a discussion be fair when you refuse to back down?

I don't admit I'm wrong when I'm right.

 

If it was a logical formula, why do you think I would illogically reject it?

Fine then.

Normal growth rate: 4%

Drug that increases probability of twins/triplets/quintuplets = Growth rate of around 12%.

Drug that increases ferility rate (babies take 3 months, rather then 9) = Growth rate of 48%

Immigration from other nations adds another 3-4%, let's say (considering that if you're a citizen of the Federation you get access to tremendous bio enhancements) = Growth rate of 52%

Huge incentives to reproduce adds another say 2% or so. Growth rate = 54%.

New lands that are granted according to family size adds another 1%. Growth rate = 55%.

Immigration from Federation land in Earth as well as government relocation to alleviate over-population (parts of Africa, and Bangladesh) adds another say 5%. Growth rate = 60%.

AI cargivers that allow for parents to have more kids and still go to work, or have them help with taking care of the kids adds another say 4%.

So 64% for Midgard.

 

Happy?

[The_Mather1]

[spoiler=Income]Human

5 300 000,00

1 428,57

50 %

3 785 714 285,71

 

Jaffa

500 000,00

28 571,43

25 %

3 571 428 571,43

 

Goa'uld

100,00

1 428 571,43

10 %

14 285 714,29

 

Loan

10 000 000,00

5 %

500 000,00

 

 

kr 7 371 928 571,43

-Don't care about the loan thing yet, not open until banks are done and people are getting used to it.

 

How do you calculate GDP out of total income?

[Icuownage]

Was it not you who was principally against my telekinesis? At first, at least.

Nope.

 

Seemed like a good idea at the time. I liked the prospect of 'our' 'colour' being more widespread. My green was ugly. I'm British.

Ah well. I guess you shoul've thought it through.

 

I do not remember ever seeing you admit you have been wrong. How can a discussion be fair when you refuse to back down?

I don't admit I'm wrong when I'm right.

 

If it was a logical formula, why do you think I would illogically reject it?

Fine then.

Normal growth rate: 4%

Drug that increases probability of twins/triplets/quintuplets = Growth rate of around 12%.

Drug that increases ferility rate (babies take 3 months, rather then 9) = Growth rate of 48%

Immigration from other nations adds another 3-4%, let's say (considering that if you're a citizen of the Federation you get access to tremendous bio enhancements) = Growth rate of 52%

Huge incentives to reproduce adds another say 2% or so. Growth rate = 54%.

New lands that are granted according to family size adds another 1%. Growth rate = 55%.

Immigration from Federation land in Earth as well as government relocation to alleviate over-population (parts of Africa, and Bangladesh) adds another say 5%. Growth rate = 60%.

AI cargivers that allow for parents to have more kids and still go to work, or have them help with taking care of the kids adds another say 4%.

So 64% for Midgard.

 

Happy?

 

I'm sorry to break this in, but can you explain to me "Drug that increases ferility rate (babies take 3 months, rather then 9) = Growth rate of 48%"

 

Wouldn't this cause most of your citizens to die early? I'm pretty sure a fast development will cause age related illness and disease at earlier ages.