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[The_Mather1]

 

 

I was using an RRW type warhead, not fusion, not fission, it is its own kind of nuclear weapon.

 

Mini hot-fusion reactor researched, these use two PEP blasts fired at a 25 gramm Jahrium orb suspended in the middle by six tungsten rods to inicialate the fusion reaction.

 

They look like this:

...and are about 50 cm long, 20 cm high and 10 cm wide, they weigh 750 gramms.

They can generate up to five terrajules an hour and are turned on and off by turning the handle on the top ninety degrees.

 

After extensive safety tests I load the prototype onboard a tel'tac cargoship which I prepare for Dustys arrival.

?

I hope you're not planning on using it against me, considering I just helped you :blink:

 

 

It isn't done yet anyways, but in January 5th, when it's done you shal have it, no feedback loop that causes it to overload, delivered in an unarmed cargoship.

 

 

Don't think the Goa'uld and Jaffa would agree to that, and the slaves will probably not consider that either as they only know they have higher taxes then the rest.

? How are you taxing slaves. The whole point of slavery is having a work force you don't have to pay. So, you're taxing the 0 dollars they make a year?

 

 

Slaves do make money, at least some did, in old Rome they got a sallery of thirty silver coinst for example, anyways they're no longer slaves, but they do have to work at something.

[Seraphi]

[hide=Quote train]

I'm sure you can simply make a "non-melting" mirror, but i'm not sure. It is possible.

 

 

[hide]20 = nanotech

40 = AI

_

40 billion left plus another fourty billion from yesterday.

 

Eighty billion free money

[/hide]

 

Oh yeh and ross, depictions of the future always seem to have robotic races in them so are you saying there all copying each other.

There not going to be humonoid at all.

 

I think its ok to change ur race, but omg its going to take a while, firstly, after you have tech'd it, you have to make enough robot suites and lets just say disks, idk what you store your mind on, for your current population, and the population expected to have when you have built the suites, that going to take a ton of money...

 

I'm planning on researching everything first and then simply putting it together, all i'll have to pay for is:

 

1) putting everything together

2) eradication/find a use of humans.

[/hide]

 

A lot of futurescape movies and games show robotic races, but an equal amount simply show very advanced humans.

To be honest, people are going to question what the hell you need their minds uploaded for, and the second you begin producing machines, people will start rioting.

 

Also, its pretty pointless if you change your race to machines anyway. It would take upwards of 35 years for you to get Data Splicing, allowing you to reproduce, and upwards of 50 years before you could get machines capable of storing a human mind.

Besides, you'd have 20 million people for 30 years with no growth rate.

 

Honestly, just stick with the race you have.

 

Mather, are we still in agreement that those things are going to cost an absolute fortune to produce if they're to be equal to 500,000 fusion reactors?

I think 50 trillion seems about right for that kind of power, considering 500k fusion reactors would most likely cost over 1 quadrillion.

[VEGHATERMEATLOVER]

[hide=Quote train]

I'm sure you can simply make a "non-melting" mirror, but i'm not sure. It is possible.

 

 

[hide]20 = nanotech

40 = AI

_

40 billion left plus another fourty billion from yesterday.

 

Eighty billion free money

[/hide]

 

Oh yeh and ross, depictions of the future always seem to have robotic races in them so are you saying there all copying each other.

There not going to be humonoid at all.

 

I think its ok to change ur race, but omg its going to take a while, firstly, after you have tech'd it, you have to make enough robot suites and lets just say disks, idk what you store your mind on, for your current population, and the population expected to have when you have built the suites, that going to take a ton of money...

 

I'm planning on researching everything first and then simply putting it together, all i'll have to pay for is:

 

1) putting everything together

2) eradication/find a use of humans.

[/hide]

 

A lot of futurescape movies and games show robotic races, but an equal amount simply show very advanced humans.

To be honest, people are going to question what the hell you need their minds uploaded for, and the second you begin producing machines, people will start rioting.

 

Also, its pretty pointless if you change your race to machines anyway. It would take upwards of 35 years for you to get Data Splicing, allowing you to reproduce, and upwards of 50 years before you could get machines capable of storing a human mind.

 

Honestly, just stick with the race you have. Jeez.

 

Mather, are we still in agreement that those things are going to cost an absolute fortune to produce if they're to be equal to 500,000 fusion reactors?

I think 50 trillion seems about right for that kind of power, considering 500k fusion reactors would most likely cost over 1 quadrillion.

Mind uploads = hidden from public eye

 

I don't understand this data splicing thing, it doesn't seem required to reproduce really. I could simply carry on uploading minds or randomise the sentientence.

[Nero]

Why is it [developmentally delayed]ed?

 

I think his budget is somewhere around 600b, can't remember for sure. Often Sere has no idea what he wants to spend his money on, so simply saves it for later. I think the time you probably remember most is when he said he had something like 180b left over - but that was before any of these major projects started, iirc.

 

Either way, Sere is very careful with his budget and does confer with Ross, Doom and myself over how much everything should cost.

He does that every time. The only time he said he didn't have left over money was his last update.

And if he's conferring with you three over his budget, then I guess you're all wrong. :unsure:

 

In case anyone missed it:

[hide=TFed news] Colony ships have been sent off to the Emazotran system, to colonize the desert and earth like planet.

TFed has taken the empty lands that were formerly Nigeria, since now there is no one living there.

New ammunition for my gun lineup. Similar to Mass Effect's ammo, in that it's just a chunk of metal you load in, and then the gun configures the right shape of the bullet for the target, and tips it with Roridium right before it's fired.

I "discover" a system right near Yggdrasil, since we can just do that. :/

Asteroid fields are popping up all around Yggdrasil's system, and they are being hollowed out at random and housed with full fighter squadrons and missile turrets.

I'll reveal the species that I mentioned a while back tommorow I guess.

The metal has been thoroughly researched, and it has some very interesting capabilities. It'll be called Dirithanium. Anyways, it seems it has the ability to dissipate a tremendous amount of energy, so much so that mining operations on Vanaheim have been kicked into high gear, and the metal is being processed and added as ship armour.

TFed ramps up production of it's space fleet, since my original numbers were incredibly low it seems. Using the 6 or so shipyards I have, we've begun producing 3 capital ships, 6 carriers, and 2 troop transports a year (as well as Troop Dropships).

TFed starts production on Ragnarok (yes, I realize that's your ship's name Latino, but you're a [bleep]ing Christian nation), the Federation Fleet's flagship. It'll be a behemoth, and so will take around 15-25 years to complete (though I could just SURGE IN FUNDING it, I suppose)

Fusion/Fission Nukes (whichever one, cba to look it up) are complete, and space nuclear missiles are being produced and added to capital ship armaments.

Battlestation above Earth is having a warp drive installed in it, so it can move to orbit above Midgard.

Midgard pop at 890m.[/hide]

Also, super mega alliances make this game so boring.

 

Oh, to Rpg:

Can you make a clone with a certain DNA that I send you?

As well as I guess 20,000 regular clones.

I'll pick them up when they're babies.

[Seraphi]

[hide=Quote train]

I'm sure you can simply make a "non-melting" mirror, but i'm not sure. It is possible.

 

 

[hide]20 = nanotech

40 = AI

_

40 billion left plus another fourty billion from yesterday.

 

Eighty billion free money

[/hide]

 

Oh yeh and ross, depictions of the future always seem to have robotic races in them so are you saying there all copying each other.

There not going to be humonoid at all.

 

I think its ok to change ur race, but omg its going to take a while, firstly, after you have tech'd it, you have to make enough robot suites and lets just say disks, idk what you store your mind on, for your current population, and the population expected to have when you have built the suites, that going to take a ton of money...

 

I'm planning on researching everything first and then simply putting it together, all i'll have to pay for is:

 

1) putting everything together

2) eradication/find a use of humans.

[/hide]

 

A lot of futurescape movies and games show robotic races, but an equal amount simply show very advanced humans.

To be honest, people are going to question what the hell you need their minds uploaded for, and the second you begin producing machines, people will start rioting.

 

Also, its pretty pointless if you change your race to machines anyway. It would take upwards of 35 years for you to get Data Splicing, allowing you to reproduce, and upwards of 50 years before you could get machines capable of storing a human mind.

 

Honestly, just stick with the race you have. Jeez.

 

Mather, are we still in agreement that those things are going to cost an absolute fortune to produce if they're to be equal to 500,000 fusion reactors?

I think 50 trillion seems about right for that kind of power, considering 500k fusion reactors would most likely cost over 1 quadrillion.

Mind uploads = hidden from public eye

 

I don't understand this data splicing thing, it doesn't seem required to reproduce really. I could simply carry on uploading minds or randomise the sentientence.

Huge, huge overpowering.

The reason its taken me so long is because if I did it instantly, by now, I would be absurdly powerful.

Also, you try randomising millions of lines of code without something getting mixed up. Its pretty difficult, apparently.

 

Also, how do you scan and document somebodies mind without them knowing?

[The_Mather1]

Mather, are we still in agreement that those things are going to cost an absolute fortune to produce if they're to be equal to 500,000 fusion reactors?

I think 50 trillion seems about right for that kind of power, considering 500k fusion reactors would most likely cost over 1 quadrillion.

10 reactors each then, I will pay 3t for each.

[Seraphi]

Absolutely fine by me.

[VEGHATERMEATLOVER]

[hide=Quote train]

I'm sure you can simply make a "non-melting" mirror, but i'm not sure. It is possible.

 

 

[hide]20 = nanotech

40 = AI

_

40 billion left plus another fourty billion from yesterday.

 

Eighty billion free money

[/hide]

 

Oh yeh and ross, depictions of the future always seem to have robotic races in them so are you saying there all copying each other.

There not going to be humonoid at all.

 

I think its ok to change ur race, but omg its going to take a while, firstly, after you have tech'd it, you have to make enough robot suites and lets just say disks, idk what you store your mind on, for your current population, and the population expected to have when you have built the suites, that going to take a ton of money...

 

I'm planning on researching everything first and then simply putting it together, all i'll have to pay for is:

 

1) putting everything together

2) eradication/find a use of humans.

[/hide]

 

A lot of futurescape movies and games show robotic races, but an equal amount simply show very advanced humans.

To be honest, people are going to question what the hell you need their minds uploaded for, and the second you begin producing machines, people will start rioting.

 

Also, its pretty pointless if you change your race to machines anyway. It would take upwards of 35 years for you to get Data Splicing, allowing you to reproduce, and upwards of 50 years before you could get machines capable of storing a human mind.

 

Honestly, just stick with the race you have. Jeez.

 

Mather, are we still in agreement that those things are going to cost an absolute fortune to produce if they're to be equal to 500,000 fusion reactors?

I think 50 trillion seems about right for that kind of power, considering 500k fusion reactors would most likely cost over 1 quadrillion.

Mind uploads = hidden from public eye

 

I don't understand this data splicing thing, it doesn't seem required to reproduce really. I could simply carry on uploading minds or randomise the sentientence.

Huge, huge overpowering.

The reason its taken me so long is because if I did it instantly, by now, I would be absurdly powerful.

Also, you try randomising millions of lines of code without something getting mixed up. Its pretty difficult, apparently.

 

Also, how do you scan and document somebodies mind without them knowing?

 

It won't happen instantly, it'll happen over a long long time.

 

in answer to the code thing, if you simply write the code in a way that allows one variable to change the AI's sentient's or just make a macro to change things quickly.

 

The answer is = some AI, some mind uploads.

[Icuownage]

I'm bored, so I guess its report time.

 

People

[hide]Population

10 441 600 (+ 1M of useless babies, this wont be added on, so it wont affect my growth rate)

 

Growth rate

4%

 

 

Expected next years population

10 859 264[/hide]

 

Finance

[hide]Budget

122 571 520 000

 

GDP

24 537 760 000

 

Production - 21.5B

 

Tax - 20 214 304 000

 

Expected next years cash - 105 394 976 000[/hide]

 

Production

[hide]Research Centre 1.5B

1/3

 

Verticle Farm - 1B

1/4[/hide]

 

Research

[hide]Colonisation - 4B

2/7

 

Cloning - 5B

2/15[/hide]

 

Trade

[hide]The robots Ross is sending over should be over in a year :) It'll take a year to develop them.[/hide]

 

Projects

[hide]Baby Project starting this year, starting off with 10B put in for the new born babies :) 0/18 (babies are born at the age of zero)[/hide]

 

 

This year, was quite a bad year, a lot of cash was lost due to the baby project, I expect this loss to increase, until I'm either bankrupt, or my population can pull me out with earnings.

[Seraphi]

Hex, that wouldn't work. You would need to selectively check which part of code contains instructions on which bodily function, and then you'd need to remove the parts that don't matter and make a code which randomises the parts which are required.

You need to do this with all the gene combinations you want, and then combine them all to create the Data splicing.

 

Considering the fact that you don't even have computer capable of holding 1/20th of the human mind, I think its irrelevent anyways.

I forgot to mention that, so you might want to halt AI research for now and get to work on those computers. It should take you around 25-30 years to create a computer which can store that much data in a humanoid construct.

 

The way I see it, you have about 100 years of reserach before you can get going with a machine race.

 

I really, really think it would be better for you if you just kept the race you have now.

[VEGHATERMEATLOVER]

Hex, that wouldn't work. You would need to selectively check which part of code contains instructions on which bodily function, and then you'd need to remove the parts that don't matter and make a code which randomises the parts which are required.

You need to do this with all the gene combinations you want, and then combine them all to create the Data splicing.

 

Considering the fact that you don't even have computer capable of holding 1/20th of the human mind, I think its irrelevent anyways.

I forgot to mention that, so you might want to halt AI research for now and get to work on those computers. It should take you around 25-30 years to create a computer which can store that much data in a humanoid construct.

 

The way I see it, you have about 100 years of reserach before you can get going with a machine race.

 

I really, really think it would be better for you if you just kept the race you have now.

I will be keeping my race humans for a long long time i'm just discussing the future.

Also, it won't work with all this data splicing stuff. That was your idea. they won't have arms or legs just implements and weapons and battery chargers and talkey things and internet ascess or whatever

 

This seems to work perfectly.

[Icuownage]

Hex, that wouldn't work. You would need to selectively check which part of code contains instructions on which bodily function, and then you'd need to remove the parts that don't matter and make a code which randomises the parts which are required.

You need to do this with all the gene combinations you want, and then combine them all to create the Data splicing.

 

Considering the fact that you don't even have computer capable of holding 1/20th of the human mind, I think its irrelevent anyways.

I forgot to mention that, so you might want to halt AI research for now and get to work on those computers. It should take you around 25-30 years to create a computer which can store that much data in a humanoid construct.

 

The way I see it, you have about 100 years of reserach before you can get going with a machine race.

 

I really, really think it would be better for you if you just kept the race you have now.

I will be keeping my race humans for a long long time i'm just discussing the future.

Also, it won't work with all this data splicing stuff. That was your idea. they won't have arms or legs just implements and weapons and battery chargers and talkey things and internet ascess or whatever

 

This seems to work perfectly.

 

Yep, just tax it for 9 years, you have to work out each 9 years individually really, oh and remove costs for research, building and stuff

[a_bert]

Colony ships have been sent off to the Emazotran system, to colonize the desert and earth like planet.

TFed has taken the empty lands that were formerly Nigeria, since now there is no one living there.

 

Afaik, Rocco wanted to keep his earth land for his HQ. Why grief?

 

New ammunition for my gun lineup. Similar to Mass Effect's ammo, in that it's just a chunk of metal you load in, and then the gun configures the right shape of the bullet for the target, and tips it with Roridium right before it's fired.

What's Roridium? Forgive me for not looking it up.

 

I "discover" a system right near Yggdrasil, since we can just do that. :/

 

What? The only instance I can think of this happening is Doom doing it, but I never thought anything actually came of it.

 

Asteroid fields are popping up all around Yggdrasil's system, and they are being hollowed out at random and housed with full fighter squadrons and missile turrets.

I'll reveal the species that I mentioned a while back tommorow I guess.

 

Telekinesis is reinstated, since, y'know, godmodding is cool now.

 

The metal has been thoroughly researched, and it has some very interesting capabilities. It'll be called Dirithanium. Anyways, it seems it has the ability to dissipate a tremendous amount of energy, so much so that mining operations on Vanaheim have been kicked into high gear, and the metal is being processed and added as ship armour.

 

See above point, but to a lesser extent.

 

TFed ramps up production of it's space fleet, since my original numbers were incredibly low it seems. Using the 6 or so shipyards I have, we've begun producing 3 capital ships, 6 carriers, and 2 troop transports a year (as well as Troop Dropships).

 

11 ships a year, on a budget of 1.4T? I think? Something like that. So, uhm, each ship is only costing 100b? This either means 1) Yours are awful or 2) Mine are superior.

 

TFed starts production on Ragnarok (yes, I realize that's your ship's name Latino, but you're a [bleep]ing Christian nation), the Federation Fleet's flagship. It'll be a behemoth, and so will take around 15-25 years to complete (though I could just SURGE IN FUNDING it, I suppose)

 

I really think you need to get over this surge in funding thing. Yeah, it was total BS, but in the long run it doesn't matter - we just don't need to repeat it. Do you want some kind of compensation for it? If not, shut up about it, yeah?

 

Midgard pop at 890m.

 

Your planet increased it's population to that of India in 2009 in 4 years. I don't care how many drugs, robots or whatever you have, that's irrational.

[Seraphi]

Not forgetting that you can only spend 20% of your total tax money.

 

Also, Dusty, if that was a shot at me about the system spawning, I fill up the empty areas of the map first.

I think system creation should be limited to when we actually NEED new systems, and not just want them.

[VEGHATERMEATLOVER]

I agree with Dusty. We can't even have wars because everyone jumps on anyone who steps out of line. Maybe wars should just be 1v1?

Agreed.

Not forgetting that you can only spend 20% of your total tax money.

Fixed.

[Dizzle229]

I don't even see what he did.

[Seraphi]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention, Once Hyperion is done, I'm going to construct Cataclysm and Rhadamanthus battleships at a ratio of 1:1.5 using 6 of the 8 shipyards I'll have in about 3 days, and the other two plus Elysium will produce harvesters, colony and cargo ships.

[VEGHATERMEATLOVER]

[hide]

I agree with Dusty. We can't even have wars because everyone jumps on anyone who steps out of line. Maybe wars should just be 1v1?

Agreed.

Not forgetting that you can only spend 20% of your total tax money.

Fixed.

What makes you think you have the right to fix things?

[/hide]

??

[Aeon_]

Am I the only one with the same budget? :blink:

 

Haven't had any boosts to it.

[a_bert]

It grows naturally, albeit slowly, over time, Killer.

[Icuownage]

Am I the only one with the same budget? :blink:

 

Haven't had any boosts to it.

 

What do you mean? Your budget changes every year unless you dont earn or lose any money

[Nero]

Afaik, Rocco wanted to keep his earth land for his HQ. Why grief?

There's nobody there.

But okay, fine. I won't move into Nigeria. However, I claim all the uncolonized planets. They're my land now, I just don't have people on them. So don't take them, or you're "griefing". :roll:

 

What's Roridium? Forgive me for not looking it up.

Corrosive material.

 

 

What? The only instance I can think of this happening is Doom doing it, but I never thought anything actually came of it.

Mk. I guess I have to move into other people's systems then. Just don't get pissed off at me when I claim a planet in your system is all.

 

 

Telekinesis is reinstated, since, y'know, godmodding is cool now.

For all you know it could just be a new type of fly, so stuff it.

 

See above point, but to a lesser extent.

The way tech is progressing, all our ships are going to have energy shields and shoot laser beams. That's not really that fun. [bleep] Star Trek.

 

 

11 ships a year, on a budget of 1.4T? I think? Something like that. So, uhm, each ship is only costing 100b? This either means 1) Yours are awful or 2) Mine are superior.

Nope, mine are just as powerful as they were before, I just need to keep up with the amount of ships everyone is building. And the 1.6tril accounts for Earth GDP only. :)

 

 

I really think you need to get over this surge in funding thing. Yeah, it was total BS, but in the long run it doesn't matter - we just don't need to repeat it. Do you want some kind of compensation for it? If not, shut up about it, yeah?

I'll type whatever I damn well please, thank you very much.

 

Your planet increased it's population to that of India in 2009 in 4 years. I don't care how many drugs, robots or whatever you have, that's irrational.

Correct. My people are quite irrational.

[a_bert]

But okay, fine. I won't move into Nigeria. However, I claim all the uncolonized planets. They're my land now, I just don't have people on them. So don't take them, or you're "griefing". :roll:

 

The point was he left some of his people there.

 

Corrosive material.

 

Thanks

 

Mk. I guess I have to move into other people's systems then. Just don't get pissed off at me when I claim a planet in your system is all.

 

Of course not. That would be cowardly.

 

Telekinesis is reinstated, since, y'know, godmodding is cool now.

I was referring to your ready built fortifications - the asteroid fields.

 

The way tech is progressing, all our ships are going to have energy shields and shoot laser beams. That's not really that fun. [bleep] Star Trek.

 

Yes, I agree with you on this point. But making up new powerful metals is a similar problem, but whatever, this isn't important.

 

Nope, mine are just as powerful as they were before, I just need to keep up with the amount of ships everyone is building. And the 1.6tril accounts for Earth GDP only. :)

 

So you're godmodding to keep up with everyone? What?

 

I'll type whatever I damn well please, thank you very much.

 

No, you won't, because you get angry with us when we type BS so you won't do it either.

 

Correct. My people are quite irrational.

 

You want people to play fair, not godmod, be sensible etc, you have to do it as well.

[Seraphi]

My people are overly rational, this means they build everything for free and I essentially have infinite budget because they want to expand their race. Two can play at that game, Dusty.

 

I think Dusty is referring to me when he talks about the ships.

The reason I can get ships cheaply and fairly quickly is that my ships require no life support, which I imagine would make up a good 40% of the total cost of ship building.

 

(PS. I'm sure somebody will miss the sarcasm in the first part of my post. :roll: It was to point out the blatant godmod when Dusty says his people can get about 1b people in 4 years. If he can do that because his people are "Irrational" then I can get an infinite budget because my people are over-rational.)

[VEGHATERMEATLOVER]

My people are overly rational, this means they build everything for free and I essentially have infinite budget because they want to expand their race. Two can play at that game, Dusty.

OMG! if you do that i'm going to do this:

 

All my people work for free and never argue because there good people. they are autistic-savants that are super clever which means all my tech gets done instantly.

 

 

Oh sorry, didn't see the "Two can play at that game, Dusty." you must've edited.