RpgGamer Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 That's only cause Sere is the pretty much the ringleader of NWO. He gains power because people like me are too lazy to do things for themselves. So, the NWO gained ~100M troops, but he's the one controlling them because he has the most time to care for them. Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 That's only cause Sere is the pretty much the ringleader of NWO. He gains power because people like me are too lazy to do things for themselves. So, the NWO gained ~100M troops, but he's the one controlling them because he has the most time to care for them.Still doesn't make sense to me how these untrained conscripts are able to kill twice their number in fully trained & equipped Germanian troops (defensive bonus is pretty much negated in Russia, since the people hate his government). Also, heh. You're saying he's just taking people from his allies countries and using them in his armies? Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I read it as he's explaining why I said NWO, when I was meaning Britannia. You treat us as one giant big thingy, so I did too. Archi, yes, I understand a faster deployment to a degree, but that's a huge modifier when really all your doing is perhaps reducing casualties while the boats are in the water by 50%. Why on earth do the Lichtes get 290% more modifier from training and weapons than I do? You've been told numerous times how many troops there are in Japan. 20% of the Japanese population rose up against their homeland. Okay yeah that totally makes sense.. I don't intend to come across as personally attacking you Archi, as I know you put a lot of effort into this, but it does seem like some situations have bias (which may well change from battle to battle), or you put empthasis on some bonuses more than others. 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 It's because he does what he's told. He puts the lotion on his skin; he does what he's told. He puts the lotion on his skin, or he gets the hose again. -- Dungeonal, can we discuss battle plans over PM? SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 wut? Silence of the Lambs. Very [bleep]ed up movie, go watch it. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mrmegakirby Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Ok. I had a population of 197 million when I left, with an annual growth rate of 4%/year. That was about a 3 weeks ago I left, so my population is now of 315 million. GDP of 500 billion a year.I control an entire planet (Yexenus, earthlike).Oh, and a have a biological weapon that I put about 40 years into, and is still going on. Seeing as I have my own planet, I'm not scared of it spreading to my people, providing the war isn't on my own grounds. I'm a member of the NWOAnd I have alot of money saved up. A GDP of 500 billion a year over 20 years, plus 3 trillion I had prior to that.My planet is surrounded by Dyson orbs. - I think thats what they're called. I think thats everything about my planet. Oh, I have an army of about 2 million people, and recruiting. I have an I-will-only-shoot-if-you-shoot-me-first mentality, or if I'm threatend, or something is going on involving my alliance (NWO) Things I'm doing now: Building up my space fleetDrafting an armyWorking on bio-warfare reasearch Ok, I think thats everything. If anyone has anything they feel they need to say to me, just drop me a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Perhaps I should just totally destroy Japan since my hold on it is so tentative... I don't know, it seems like you are going to get it back anyways, so what's the benefit of me keeping the land nice and pristine. :P Of course, you basically have two options: 1. Invade and force me to destroy Japan's ecosystem, basically rendering it a giant rock in the ocean with no capacity to support human life by itself (for example, grow crops).2. Make a peace treaty with me, where your country is still nice and pristine with its unique ecosystem, and perhaps support human life. The choice is yours, but I'm just doing what is best for myself and it so happens that it is the best option for you. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 [spoiler=Income]TaxesHuman 10 500 000,00 50 000,00 30 % 157 500 000 000,00 Jaffa 910 000,00 60 000,00 25 % 13 650 000 000,00 Goa'uld 270,00 1 500 000,00 10 % 40 500 000,00 Loan 1 500 000 000,00 5 % 75 000 000,00 Building companyApartements 5 000,00 30 000,00 40 % 60 000 000,00 Townhouses 2 500,00 75 000,00 40 % 75 000 000,00 Farms 900,00 125 000,00 40 % 45 000 000,00 Mansions 1 500,00 1 000 000,00 40 % 600 000 000,00 Pyramids 50,00 5 000 000,00 40 % 100 000 000,00 TradeRing transporters 500 000,00 Naguadah bars 1 000 000,00 Drone sets 2 000 000 000,00 Tel'tac cargoships 5 000 000 000,00 SalesArchi 1 000 000,00 Income 172 146 500 000,00 Budget10 % 17 214 650 000,00 Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Ok. I had a population of 197 million when I left, with an annual growth rate of 4%/year. That was about a 3 weeks ago I left, so my population is now of 315 million. GDP of 500 billion a year.I control an entire planet (Yexenus, earthlike).Oh, and a have a biological weapon that I put about 40 years into, and is still going on. Seeing as I have my own planet, I'm not scared of it spreading to my people, providing the war isn't on my own grounds. I'm a member of the NWOAnd I have alot of money saved up. A GDP of 500 billion a year over 20 years, plus 3 trillion I had prior to that.My planet is surrounded by Dyson orbs. - I think thats what they're called. I think thats everything about my planet. Oh, I have an army of about 2 million people, and recruiting. I have an I-will-only-shoot-if-you-shoot-me-first mentality, or if I'm threatend, or something is going on involving my alliance (NWO) Things I'm doing now: Building up my space fleetDrafting an armyWorking on bio-warfare reasearch Ok, I think thats everything. If anyone has anything they feel they need to say to me, just drop me a PM.Sere's been pulling allied troops to fight for him, so your army is probably around 1m tops. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Still doesn't make sense to me how these untrained conscripts are able to kill twice their number in fully trained & equipped Germanian troops (defensive bonus is pretty much negated in Russia, since the people hate his government). Also, heh. You're saying he's just taking people from his allies countries and using them in his armies? The defensive bonus is not negated because, oddly, Sere kicked all the people out of the combat zones and built up a defence without sabotage. And basically, Sere has total control over the NWO(It seems, which is why I am slightly uncomfortable with the whole thing) so he is utilizing the whole Eastern Hemisphere, just like Stalin =P Archi, yes, I understand a faster deployment to a degree, but that's a huge modifier when really all your doing is perhaps reducing casualties while the boats are in the water by 50%. Why on earth do the Lichtes get 290% more modifier from training and weapons than I do? You've been told numerous times how many troops there are in Japan. 20% of the Japanese population rose up against their homeland. Okay yeah that totally makes sense.. I don't intend to come across as personally attacking you Archi, as I know you put a lot of effort into this, but it does seem like some situations have bias (which may well change from battle to battle), or you put empthasis on some bonuses more than others. Well there has always been a -200% when attacking by sea. Every unit has to be beached so if they are under fire then it is not just the first 5 million it is everyone. Dusty got around this by deploying two seperate waves of attacks, one to come ashore and make beach-heads and the a second to conduct the major attack, thus was able to push rather further.Japan gets 350% bonus from training and such. I have been told numerous times how many troops are in Japan, at varying times and how many troops are in a number of other countries at the same time. It would be like asking Sere to tell you were all his forces were without referring to a list or something.... I try my best to search for the accurate figures, but me pouring another hour or so in checking everything hardly seems worth it when I have an idea of what the number is already in my head. It would be fine if there was some uniformed system of imputing data, then I could just grab that and get on with it, but because there are a number of different methods I can't centralize in any meaningful way. Its alright, I live to be critiqued(Part of my personality, its quiet strange). As Rocco said I am told to do different things each turn, if I am told not to say something(which cannot be easily observed) then it is not said. I can assure you that I do not bias anything beyond what I am told to and can be reasonably justified by the game. Sometimes I do drop things but this is accidental, since I don't have a manual to look to and I am largely learning as I am going. Also 20 type II Caravels(ones with the cool armour) have been dispatched to the Sol System.Another 60 have been commissioned.(25th)The three planets have become independent worlds within the System of Free Worlds.Cybele has undergone a major revolution and the hedonistic lifestyle has been made completely illegal, efforts are being made to suppress all recreational activity beyond a reasonable amount.Hera have become an extreme industrial planet, churning out billions of millions of tonnes of steel(and equivalent) per year.Neptune has remained an extreme aquacultural planet but has a growing population in the deep sea using scans taken from the Licht homeworld as well as splicing from the Cybele Womb Tank project and abducted members of the Licht race(For your information it is not officially so) which will create a new sub species of Humans within twenty years. The sub species will be designed to live underwater but not be overly aggressive.Current population is 61 Million(40 Million adults due to the whole Cybele thing)(To anyone doing the math it should be 68 million but 7 million are being deployed) with a 12% growth rate(Since the growing industry needs more people and the people have taken up the challenge... it also is not illegal where has sex for any other reason is on Cybele). (It is really annoying being WJ because you have to tell people everything.... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Arch, you don't need to abduct my people. I will freely provide any information about my species and send some criminals and technology if you'd like, in exchange for protection for my transports to Earth with your caravels. :) Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Nah, its in the past and on the records. Officially it will just be a new subspecies (and most it is, only a handful of gene sequences were actually required, since water-fruit gives the perfect filtering system the whole underwater thing is not a major issue, it is more the hydrodynamics and because my people just wanted to have alien babies... what can I say, the human race is amazingly childish.) Also me escorting troops would not really be anti-war... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Nah, its in the past and on the records. Officially it will just be a new subspecies (and most it is, only a handful of gene sequences were actually required, since water-fruit gives the perfect filtering system the whole underwater thing is not a major issue, it is more the hydrodynamics and because my people just wanted to have alien babies... what can I say, the human race is amazingly childish.) Also me escorting troops would not really be anti-war... It is indeed anti-war. With 25 million more troops, NWO would be discouraged from attacking me, and I wouldn't have enough forces to attack NWO. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Still doesn't make sense to me how these untrained conscripts are able to kill twice their number in fully trained & equipped Germanian troops (defensive bonus is pretty much negated in Russia, since the people hate his government). Also, heh. You're saying he's just taking people from his allies countries and using them in his armies? The defensive bonus is not negated because, oddly, Sere kicked all the people out of the combat zones and built up a defence without sabotage. And basically, Sere has total control over the NWO(It seems, which is why I am slightly uncomfortable with the whole thing) so he is utilizing the whole Eastern Hemisphere, just like Stalin =PYes but that's what I'm annoyed with. Sere is using the figures for the entire NWO, yet the other countries in the NWO are also using those figures, so he's essentially creating soldiers out of nothing and they're being tallied into his forces by you. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Nah, its in the past and on the records. Officially it will just be a new subspecies (and most it is, only a handful of gene sequences were actually required, since water-fruit gives the perfect filtering system the whole underwater thing is not a major issue, it is more the hydrodynamics and because my people just wanted to have alien babies... what can I say, the human race is amazingly childish.) Also me escorting troops would not really be anti-war... It is indeed anti-war. With 25 million more troops, NWO would be discouraged from attacking me, and I wouldn't have enough forces to attack NWO. With that same mentality, then Archi should go ahead and declare war on my enemies and destroy them for the sake of peace. Your reasoning is pretty flawed. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Dusty, we should make the "Union of Sovereign Alliances". Then we can double our forces too! :P USA, lolz. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Dusty, we should make the "Union of Sovereign Alliances". Then we can double our forces too! :P USA, lolz.We arent doubling... You seem to forget that they have the two highest populations on earth (and if latino got rid of the one child policy nothing has changed in china) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Dusty, we should make the "Union of Sovereign Alliances". Then we can double our forces too! :P USA, lolz.We arent doubling... You seem to forget that they have the two highest populations on earth (and if latino got rid of the one child policy nothing has changed in china) I know, I know, I was just kidding. :) Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mrmegakirby Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Could someone quickly sum up what's been happening recently, because although I can gather the basics by reading a few pages of posts - which I did - I'm having a hard time keeping track of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Dusty, we should make the "Union of Sovereign Alliances". Then we can double our forces too! :P USA, lolz.We arent doubling... You seem to forget that they have the two highest populations on earth (and if latino got rid of the one child policy nothing has changed in china)The Terran Federation lands probably made up 50% of the population of Earth, considering the explosive growth I went through around 10-15 years ago. And yes, there is doubling going on. Because at the start of the war Britannia had a military strength of around 100m or so. I've inflicted around 300-400m Britannian casaulties. Yet, apparently you Grim have 100m soldiers left? And Taiwan hasn't been touched? And Japan hasn't lost any soldiers but the ones to the Litches? Then...where did those 200m+ soldiers come from? Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Hmmm, I suppose it is my fault really, all of plans that I got from Sere were put down as Britannia, though now I am splitting them... Also Britannia doesn't really exist now... seeing how Britain and Japan have been conquered.... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Oh summery: Umm Russia gave up, revolted and drew Dusty and Sere into conflict. Dusty got ticked off that Russia didn't automatically fall to him and quit giving his bases to Doom. Doom then continued the fight, Dusty came back and the lines have moved by a little bit. The Eiffel tower was blown up by Doom because Ross used it as a Tesla coil.Also Retech landed with an aquatic race and proceeded to invade Siberia and Japan, after being driven out of Siberia he finally got Japan at the expense of all his other colonies. The NWO's fleet was wiped out, as was Dusty's. Doom still has a large fleet on standby 10 years away and the NWO current have a small fleet looking after Sol.I set up my rebel faction out in Adrigus. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgGamer Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Carrier fleet is being sent to orbit Earth for an ingame week to take up the Madagascar refugees and take them to Qyella. This will take a good 4 years to fully follow through, with a three year return trip. But the Qyella settlement will explode in population (which is good considering it's an unihabited planet). Zhoreuc growth has slowed, but only slightly. Child birth is now discouraged, but still capable. Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Oh summery: Umm Russia gave up, revolted and drew Dusty and Sere into conflict. Dusty got ticked off that Russia didn't automatically fall to him and quit giving his bases to Doom. Doom then continued the fight, Dusty came back and the lines have moved by a little bit. The Eiffel tower was blown up by Doom because Ross used it as a Tesla coil.Also Retech landed with an aquatic race and proceeded to invade Siberia and Japan, after being driven out of Siberia he finally got Japan at the expense of all his other colonies. The NWO's fleet was wiped out, as was Dusty's. Doom still has a large fleet on standby 10 years away and the NWO current have a small fleet looking after Sol.I set up my rebel faction out in Adrigus. Actually, Doom wasn't going to fight at first because she didn't really care about Russia, but Dusty [bleep]fitted enough so that she would join in, thus starting the war. :) SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Remember, only about 3.4m Brazilian Soldiers have died. 400,000 in defense of South Africa, then 17m civilians in a technically unprovoked attack. Then 3 million in Siberia/Alaska apparently. So in total, 20.4m casualties, versus the hundreds of millions for most other major players. I'm speaking only of Brazil, not of the parts of the former Terran Federation that I control. So I have another ~600m people that could defend their homeland, if it came down to it. Though I could only really draft 100m of those. Oh, and I think I said I sent the fleet towards Earth. If not, they are leaving now. I'll look at my PMs to check. Actually, Doom wasn't going to fight at first because she didn't really care about Russia, but Dusty [bleep]fitted enough so that she would join in, thus starting the war. :)Actually not quite. I sent some troops in to keep the people free, and their own sovereign nation, then you ordered your troops to slaughter any Brazilians. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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