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[Nero]

What is with your recent fascination with boarding people's ships Retech?

[Retech]

It probaly doesn't, but I'm figuring out a way to subvert the subverter. If they just went with the system, then fine, but I'm just figuring out a way to logically ignore that.

 

So I made an extremely overpowered weapon which can only be used against an overpowered boarding defence. It keeps the balance. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

Or we could just ignore the boarding defences completely.

 

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That's the way we can beat the Urk-Orz!

[Nero]

By boarding them? No, like you said, they have a modifier of 1000. YOu beat them by blowing them up. You can't insta-make super weapons either, Retech.

[Retech]

No no no. See Dusty, you added "boarding defences" and made it all dependant on combat modifiers. The old system was that once the enemy's armor and shields were down, then there was a 90% chance you took over their ship.

 

It made a lot of sense, considering that there's also the risk of you losing your ship or having both ships explode.

 

 

 

It's not overpowered, since you still have to go through their shielding and armor anyways.

 

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I'm arguing on the basis of game balance. Otherwise, boarding would be worthless.

[Nero]

No no no. See Dusty, you added "boarding defences" and made it all dependant on combat modifiers. The old system was that once the enemy's armor and shields were down, then there was a 90% chance you took over their ship.

 

It made a lot of sense, considering that there's also the risk of you losing your ship or having both ships explode.

 

 

 

It's not overpowered, since you still have to go through their shielding and armor anyways.

 

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I'm arguing on the basis of game balance. Otherwise, boarding would be worthless.

That makes no sense at all. A ship without armour and shields isn't denfenseless if it gets boarded. It still has its crew, its internal weapons and systems, its life support, its power, etc.

90% chance of taking over the ship is such a stupid percentage.

 

And game balance? Boarding is useless. How many ships were boarded in WW2? Hell, even WW1?

[Retech]

Boarded or incinerated.

 

Keep in mind that boarding is harder as you have to defeat both the armor and shielding of the spacecraft, while with other weapons you only have to take down one of them.

 

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I'd just like a ruling from Archi, instead of arguing about this. If he rules with boarding defences that make boarding nigh impossible, then I'll just go change my stats of the ships to values where everything is the same. This is really wrecking ship customisation, as there are only a few combinations you could go for now.

[The Dark Lord]

Okay, I have some evidence that'll end the argument about Dusty's drug from a few pages back:

 

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http://forum.tip.it/topic/241086-the-tip-it-hegemony/page__st__2240__p__3838614entry3838614[/hide]

 

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(This isn't meant to be against Dusty, but this definitely ends the debate. Dusty got his arctic plant mixed up with his drug. Only his plant wasn't Haven research.)

 

*This is not to be confused with Haven, the Britannian organisation that is in charge of the Second Life programme. This is Haven, a chain of islands between the Americas and Africa on Earth, where mutual research takes place.*

[Retech]

Great, now that's settled.

 

I need Archi to make a ruling on boarding: making it almost impossible, keeping it the same, or decreasing the percentage.

[The Dark Lord]

Great, now that's settled.

 

I need Archi to make a ruling on boarding: making it almost impossible, keeping it the same, or decreasing the percentage.

 

Of course, only the countries that had research teams on Haven have the technology.

[Grim_]

*Dramatic music sounds* ARCHIVE C IS COMPLETE!@!@!@!@!@ though the full details of the umbrella project that has taken up most of the MSS's time to fully defend are not known one of the major components of it is lasers. More specifically 60 years of research into combat lasers that would be on par with or a little below ross's ARC lasers. All ships are being outfitted with goal keeper MAS lasers.

[archimage_a]

If you want to board a ship you need to get the other person to PM me, or post, the number of people on the ship. Othewise it is impossible for me to work out. Urk-Orz are assumed to automatically work at the price of 1 ship being abandoned per ship captured.(at least)

[Retech]

So we're scrapping the old system of a dice roll? If so, I'm going to go and change my ship stats.

 

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I am developing a "mixture" if you will which enhances the growth rate of a virus (makes it grow in a body faster). The bad side effect is that most of the time, the virus kills off the population near it within a few minutes, so it can't spread much further.

 

 

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My big ship (the 10,000 PP one) captures by sending tranport/fighters to board the ship. How would that work with the Urk-Orz?

 

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I think we should make a combined offensive against the Urk-Orz on the weekend. I think it is imperative to drive them out before they cause any more damage.

 

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I am also sending 5 Kelp Class Heavy Battleships equipped with the new material to catch up with the first group of tranports. Since the warp is less, they should be on par with each other. You know the group I mean, right Archi?

[Guest Mrmegakirby]

[hide=Stats for Yexenus]

 

Overall:

Gdp: 4.4T

Population: 1.1 billion)

Growth Rate: 0% per year

 

Weapon Research:

YO15 Virus: 52 years (Complete, may research occasionaly)

YO15R Virus: 52 years (Complete, may research occasionaly)

YO154YM virus (46 years research + 4 years mutation)

YN26 virus: 12/30

YNT8 virus: 10/30

Note: Viruses can be deployed earlier, but will have weekend stats.

 

Space Ships/Production stations

Building 2 production stations: 2/20

Moving of Retech's station: 2/20

 

Current space fleet:

4400: fighters

200: battle ships

108: heavy battle ships

13: super heavy battle ship

3: ultra heavy battle ships

1 flagships

 

Budget:

(GPD: 1.2T)

Bio-warfare research: 2T

Building procuction stations: 400B

Army: 1T

Public services (Including healthcare): 1T

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[RpgGamer]

Something like that, Sere yes. Some are those giant turrents, others are the gattling gun type AA gun. Point is, no small craft can get near my ships with out permission.

 

Also, why the hell do you have so many Dusty quotes saved up, lol? Were you just bored ou tof your mind?

[The Dark Lord]

Something like that, Sere yes. Some are those giant turrents, others are the gattling gun type AA gun. Point is, no small craft can get near my ships with out permission.

 

Also, why the hell do you have so many Dusty quotes saved up, lol? Were you just bored ou tof your mind?

 

I spent about half of an hour searching the old thread because I felt like settling a debate. :lol:

[Grim_]

Just pointing this out there but by this weekend I will have 9 praetorian carriers and 27,000 fighters to go along with those ships. The carriers are being outfitted with archnite armor and the unmanned fighters are being equipped with a battery that will allow them to fire a MAS laser 5 times.

[Guest Mrmegakirby]

Is there anyway we can put a few new systems into the universe? I don't think any systems are 100% un-inhabited.

[archimage_a]

I will see what Doom says over the weekend and update the map(if allowed) on monday. Might be a case of deleting some of the systems.

[The Dark Lord]

Update:

 

There are seven more years until Second Life goes public.

 

Plans for the first Gaian colony is underway.

 

I cannot stress the gravity of some of the projects that I'm working on with Kamino. They will revolutionise our society.

 

Kajean population is estimated to be at around 2 billion.

 

The City Improvement Programme has commenced. It will aim at creating and restoring monuments in cities, along with the ongoing infrastructure upkeep. The development of monuments should increase citizens' pride of their cities and increase their morale even more. It should also improve the tourism industry. Cities such as Jerusalem will also be improved. Cities will look more wealthy (including the public transportation systems that have been installed in every metropolitan city years ago), which should match the drastic improvements to the average quality of life.

 

The Grand Memorial Museum has opened to the public. This museum features many artefacts recovered from Britannian and Holy Empire lands on Earth (including the pyramids!). Parts of the museum are decorated with an opulent style.

 

Gas harvesting facilities are being built around the two gas giants.

 

The national anthem has been changed from Rule, Britannia! (or "God Save the King" as it was used later on) to Land of Hope and Glory. We believe that it will reflect the triumph of individual happiness over imperialism. The anthem shouldn't cause any trouble because the song isn't just about Britain -- it's about OUR land!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=podh1wht9RY&feature=related

[Seraphi]

My ARC cannons have been in development for almost 80 years now, and they've been a continuous project with a large amount of money going into it.

I think its safe to say that my lasers are more advanced than any others which exist at the current time, and unless you have a spare 15 trillion per year to siphon into research, that isn't changing anytime soon.

 

Like, Rpg, I don't like competition in my main fields, heh.

[Retech]

Something like that, Sere yes. Some are those giant turrents, others are the gattling gun type AA gun. Point is, no small craft can get near my ships with out permission.

 

Also, why the hell do you have so many Dusty quotes saved up, lol? Were you just bored ou tof your mind?

 

 

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That was Rpg's quote. I don't know how to use quote tags. Anyways, if your ship's weaponary, shields, and armor have been blown off, I think it would be easy to board. Not that I want to actually board you, but whatever defences you put on your stuff, the Urk-Orz are just going to have a better kind.

 

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[hide=Capiahs]

 

System: Capiah

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Planet: Capiah 1 and 2 (same stats)

Distance: 175,000,000 km

Radius: 8,000

Gravity: 1.3 G

Orbit Period: 390 days

Rotation: 22.8 hrs

Mean Temp: 18 C

Atmosphere: 1.2 ATM (N2 73%, O2 26%, Ar 1%,)

Hospitable

Population: 150,000,000

Moons: None

 

About it: Capiah is the most established colony besides that of Japan on Earth. With a quickly expanding population and abundant species of kelp, the settlers are thriving. The relatively large amount of land is still mostly unused, aside from defences, but future uses could be found.

 

Military:

 

 

Transports currently heading to Capiah:

 

 

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[hide=Erikio]

System: Recea Decimus

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Planet: Erikio

Distance: 500,000,000 km

Radius: 18,000 km

Gravity: 2 G

Orbit Period: 747 days

Rotation: 18 hrs

Mean Temp: 20 C (really hot on the surface, cool in the oceans)

Atmosphere: 2 atm (N 58 %, O2 28%, Ar 2%, Carbon Dioxide 12%)

Hospitable

Population: 500,000,000

Moons: None

 

Erikio is the seat of the Lichtes government and homeworld to most of its people. Skyscrapers exist that are taller than almost any structure on Earth, mainly because the buoyancy that the water provides. It is covered by 99% water, with the land harnessed to grow luxury food crops, meat, and defensive installations.

 

Military:

Regulars: 25,000,000

Heavy Battleships: LDS Sturgeon, LDS Sea king, LDS Fried Fish, LDS Wavebreaker, LDS Manta Line(1 per turn)

Battleships: 25 (5 a turn)

Fighters: 250 (50 a turn)

Transports: 0 (100 a day)

 

 

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[hide=Meoxo]

 

System: Meoxo

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Planet: New Erikio (Replaces aquatic)

Distance: 160,000,000 km

Radius: 7500 km

Gravity: 1.1G

Orbit Period: 385 days

Rotation: 22.9 hrs

Mean Temp: 287K/17C

Atmosphere: 1 atm (N2 78%, O2 21%, Ar 1%)

Hospitable

Population: 1,000,000,000

Moons: None

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New Erikio has quickly been upgraded into a full scale military base. Massive underground tunnels snake through the continental shelf and deeper into the sea crust. The majority of Lichtes citizens live here, sheltered from infectious viruses and invading aliens by the limitless fortifications and defences. This is a major Iridium monopole mining base. Deep within the tunnels, the worst of society (over 200 million) trudge down into the mines to get as much Iridium ion as they can. The ones that give above average get a comfortable bed for the night, while those below average can either go back to their homes or go down to get more Iridium to get a bed.

 

Military:

Regulars: 100,000

Heavy battleships:

Battleships: 6 (2 per turn)

Fighters: 40 (10 per turn)

Transports: 0 (100 per turn)

 

Transports currently heading to Erikio:

 

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[hide=Technology in progress]

 

Name: Coilguns

Completion Date: December 20th

Effects: Uses monopoles to power a gun which has little to no recoil

 

Name: Scram Cannon

Completion Date: Christmas!

Effects: Uses Kinetic energy and supersonic combustion to launch a projectile as far as other weapons without the complexity.

 

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[hide=Constructions]

 

Name: Sector E battlestation

Completion Date: December 7th

Effects: Helps defend Japan from space attacks

 

Name: Earth to Space Artillery Batteries

Completion Date: December 7th

Effects: Massive Artillery and Flak installations are built on land and flotation devices on sea. The ones on land often have a tunnel that goes down into the main tunnels, but these are sealed except during peacetime. Though the projectiles cannot aim straight (due to the winds), the massive amounts of artillery flying through the air and the expanse of their fleet makes it easy to hit. If the enemy begins to land, then it will be far easier to hit them.

 

Name: Sector VI battlestations

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Colonizes Capiah VI

 

Name: Sector VII battlestations

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Colonized Capiah VII

 

Name: Sector Capital battlestation

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Protects Erikio

 

Name: Royal Engineering school of Erikio

Competion Date: December 1st

Effects: Increase production of engineers, speeds up spacefleet construction and design

 

Name: Lichtes Embassy in Kyoto, Japan

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: None, just housing for royal officials

 

Name: Sector O Bunker

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Hides up to 50 million people in a defensive location with filtration and food

 

Name: Advanced tunnel fortifications and life support

Completion Date: First Phase, December 1st (Ongoing)

Effects: Increases time Japan can withstand siege, increases defence bonus slightly

 

Name: Advanced Tunnel fortification and life support systems

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Provides housing, food, and supplies in the event of a virus attack

 

Name: LDS Ocean Trench

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Super battleship

 

Name: LDS Manta Ray

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Super battleship

 

Name: Sector T Battlestation

Completion Date: Ongoing

Effects: Colonizes Ekedou 4

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[hide=Standing Army]

 

Regulars: ~50,000,000 (Possible 300 million + availible to be conscripted)

Whale Class Ultra Battleship (Elite): 1

SeaCow Class Ultra Battleship: 2

Manta Ray Class Super Battleship: 5

Kelp Class Heavy Battleship: 0

Wave Class Battleship: 0

Plankton Class Fighters: 0

Sea Bottom Class Artillery Battleship: 0

Transports: 800

 

PP: 8,900 per turn

 

Capiah 1: 500

Capiah 2: 500

Capiah 6: 500

Capiah 7: 500

Erikio: 500

New Erikio: 2,400 (10 land production stations, 6 space)

Other planet (Strange material shared with Dusty): 500

Arctic Planet: (In Mather's system): 500

Ekedou 1: 500

Ekedou 2: 500

Ekedou 3: 500

Ekedou 4: 500

Mather's 2 home systems where he let me colonize the sea: 1,000

 

 

PP remaining: 2,900

 

Built this turn:

-2 Space Production Stations

 

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Mather, what are your home systems called?

[Seraphi]

I doubt your people can survive in the Urk-Orz ships due to the ethanol.

Also, boarding my ships would be pointless, as you would more or less get lethal cell damage in about an hour from the radiation.

[The_Mather1]

Mather, what are your home systems called?

System; Imezon, planets; Dakara(firts), Chulak(the one Hex gave me).

 

[spoiler=Income]Taxes

Human

15 000 000 000

50 000

30 %

225 000 000 000 000

 

Jaffa

3 500 000

60 000

25 %

52 500 000 000

 

Goa'uld

4 400

1 500 000

10 %

660 000 000

 

Loan

1 500 000 000

5 %

75 000 000

 

Building company

Apartements

5 000

30 000

40 %

60 000 000

 

Townhouses

2 500

75 000

40 %

75 000 000

 

Farms

900

125 000

40 %

45 000 000

 

Mansions

1 500

1 000 000

40 %

600 000 000

 

Pyramids

50

5 000 000

40 %

100 000 000

 

Skyscrapers

100

1 000

40 000

40 %

1 600 000 000

 

Trade

Ring transporters

500 000

 

Naguadah bars

1 000 000

 

Drone sets

2 000 000 000

 

Tel'tac cargoships

5 000 000 000

 

 

Sales

Ross

500 000 000

 

Archi

1 000 000

 

 

Income

225 056 216 000 000

 

Budget

10 %

22 505 621 600 000

 

 

 

And Ross, according to you I can catch up with ARC's(although I wont, at least not in the near future) and I can board your ships(although I won't(jaffa are hardy against radiation(although only to a certain degree(cannot survive nukes(now I'm just overdoing the ()s))))).

 

And the ethanol in the Urk-Orz ships does prove funny, you can't survive there, but there's no dubt you would thrive.

[Seraphi]

Bleh, I meant like 15 trillion per year for a few dozen years. I worded it slightly strangely, so I see the misunderstanding.

I'm currently pumping like 10 trillion per year into improving them.

 

Well, I doubt the Jaffa could stay aboard for more than a year or two, since this stuff is absurdly radioactive. Still, it's a lot more than humans, who would likely develop lethal cancer within about 24 hours.

 

Eos project is currently 17/50, Krypt A is 8/25. Begginning project Krypt B, ETA 20 years.

 

2 Hyperion ships produced, current total is 7

5 Cataclysm ships produced, current total is 30

1 production station created, current total is 52

[The_Mather1]

Bleh, I meant like 15 trillion per year for a few dozen years. I worded it slightly strangely, so I see the misunderstanding.

I'm currently pumping like 10 trillion per year into improving them.

 

Well, I doubt the Jaffa could stay aboard for more than a year or two, since this stuff is absurdly radioactive. Still, it's a lot more than humans, who would likely develop lethal cancer within about 24 hours.

You chose your words fine, I understood what you said the first time, I'd catch up with you if I used "all" 20t(I have a lot more but 20t is my disposable income now) on its for the next 20-40 years.

 

And if Iever were to try and take one of your ships(very unlikely that I'd even considder it) I would use some sort of remote control program to control it from most likely a tel'tak left behind to bring it back home.

 

Oh, and my OCSs are done now I guess, until such time that I am happy with ship fittng techs they are to make more OCSs(for those that did not read the post where I started them, I found out that OCS was a good arcronym for the ship-making stations or Orbital Construction Stations as I call them).