gummibear95 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Many people belive firemaking is usless, but thats partialy false. it has a few things that it can do, that make life (sometimes easier in runescape. it lets you make fires anywere, so long as you have logs with you.you can use the beacon network,you can use it in quests,minigames,prayer restor lamps in haunted woods,hand cannon,pyres. there are a few things, that it can do, but people still think theres no point in trainin it. do you think its usless? or do you think that it is an important skill?do you think there is a way to make this skill better? convince me. let the Debate Begin! :-k :-k :-k :-k lots of money is tainted, it taint yours, and it taint mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRose Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 No skill is completely useless; firemaking will always have at least some uses. The problem is whether these benefits actually justify the effort into training firemaking. I believe that is a no, mainly because the benefits you described are very circumstantal and limited in scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 ^^ agreed with above ^^ ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Rand Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I guess you could argue the potential benefits from being able to burn higher level Pyre Ships at Mith's could balance the effort put into training firemaking, that however only applies up until you can burn Magic Pyre ships. As far as the Adze/other beacon rewards go I view them as only useful for Firemaking itself which spins into some kind of use-paradox; The only use in training Firemaking is getting items which help you train Firemaking. I guess there's *some* use in training firemaking to a respectable level, but I get by just fine without it. Other than that I only train it to boost my total level occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 There's really no justification for firemaking to be a skill in the first place. "Oh, look, I leveled up! Now I can burn more expensive logs to make an identical fire! Yeehaw!" I sincerely hope a firemaking upgrade is in the works. Seriously, we need some flaming weapons. Flaming arrows. There's obvious potential for fire in combat. And there's more uses for cooking too--maybe a piece of jewelry that can be operated to make a cooking fire without logs or tinderbox. A bonus to cooking food based on your skill with the cooking fire. As is, the skill just doesn't do anything meaningful. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langer Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Aside from quest requirements and items obtained through those quests, the only use of firemeking is obtained at 92 FM with inferno adze for the best woodcutting item in the game (which has somewhat been rendered useless with the introduction of ivy). The skill on its own is mostly useless. Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 In F2P, firemaking is really only limited to lighting logs. It is somewhat useless there. I agree with your P2P points though. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathMagnetix Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 It is pretty useless, I wish they would find some use for it like combining it with another skill. For example why not release a new spell book for magic that is full of pyro spells and raising firemaking increases your ability to inflict damage using these spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Not completely useless. To be perfectly honest, i think both smithing, cooking, fletching, and crafting are pretty useless skills in a single player perspective. O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decebal Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I say firemaking is useless. Then again, playing Runescape is useless, so why should we complain? Fm is cheap xp, and that drives some people to play this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptical Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I think it's still pretty useless, even though I have a respectable level in it. Jagex is, however, making it more useful all the time. "Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security." Support transparency... and by extension, freedom and democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intervention Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Don't forget when you get fire making levels you are gaining total levels too. I have 99 fire making and find it almost completely uselss apart from the adze and lighting logs just that little bit faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armybuilder Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Tbh i dont find it useless. Maybe as a skill it isnt. But it teaches you how to combat boredum (as im sure any fm will tell you)As for the actual use in game well pretty fires are always good. But you can always turn into some sort of race. As people of said its main use atm is to get the Adze [spoiler=Clans]Current Events Leader of Tal Shiar AllianceCurrent Raid Leader of Wilderness GuardiansCurrent Old School Power Ranger of Team Power RangersCurrent Member of Clan EuropeEx Member of Team Dark Legacy (R.I.P)Ex Paladin of Old Age Militos DeciEx Leader of New Age Militos DeciEx Early Veteran of Pk Masters (R.I.P) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior5024 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Before skill capes, nobody really cared about firemaking, except for some hard-core Morr'ton temple builders. There just isn't any actual benefit to the skill. Adaze and hand cannons have partially given some fuel into firemaking (haha) but overall, it remains a skill without any direction. So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabourch Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I think if it wants to be more useful, the higher level logs you can burn ought to last longer than the normal ones otherwise, it will be pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonicSushi Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 It obviously isn't entirely useless but it is a skill that you only use about 0.000000001% of the time you spend playing runescape.... i got to level 83 and then i was like... wtf am i doing? and i stopped... :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beebel Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 As a skill in RS, there aren't really any uses for it, but personally, I find firemaking a great way to relieve stress and anger that may affect you irl. It keeps your hands busy while leaving your mind to think through the problem and allows you to calm down, unless of course, other people decide to block your fire lines and/or talk to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Just as useless as smithing, crafting, etc. O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost4sale1 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 It is pretty useless, I wish they would find some use for it like combining it with another skill. For example why not release a new spell book for magic that is full of pyro spells and raising firemaking increases your ability to inflict damage using these spells.Or maybe implement this into the normal spellbook and have mining increase earth spells, fishing increase water spells, or something like that. F2p magic does kind of need a boost. And no firemaking is not useless. My signature got deleted :( And I lost all the links. Thanks Gandorf61. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4ylan Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Just as useless as smithing, crafting, etc. Smithing makes armour to fight with and crafting makes the jewelery you wear. Firemaking was meant to be a gold sink. Once you burn the log, there's no way to profit or get it back. This way is stabilizes the economy. ~~~The Harpy List~~~Harpy Facts~~~It's Super Effective~~~The Beginning~~~Harpy Therapy Center~~~Alg~~~Jedi Harpy~~~Rohirrim~~~Attenuation~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Just as useless as smithing, crafting, etc. Smithing makes armour to fight with and crafting makes the jewelery you wear. Firemaking was meant to be a gold sink. Once you burn the log, there's no way to profit or get it back. This way is stabilizes the economy.It's not a gold sink; it's log sink. The gold doesn't leave the system. It only changes hands. Unless you buy your logs in a store, I suppose, but that's kind of silly. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost4sale1 Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I forgot to add, the prices of logs would drop without firemaking due to the low demand. But then we would see a lot more fletching capes because of the lowered prices and so the prices would sky rocket. Then plummet, then even out, and then make woodcutting for money a bit obsolete. My signature got deleted :( And I lost all the links. Thanks Gandorf61. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4ylan Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I forgot to add, the prices of logs would drop without firemaking due to the low demand. But then we would see a lot more fletching capes because of the lowered prices and so the prices would sky rocket. Then plummet, then even out, and then make woodcutting for money a bit obsolete. If firemaking never existed, then it wouldn't matter. The demand wouldn't change. what you said above would only happen if the actually REMOVED Firemaking. And I do not think they will ever do this. ~~~The Harpy List~~~Harpy Facts~~~It's Super Effective~~~The Beginning~~~Harpy Therapy Center~~~Alg~~~Jedi Harpy~~~Rohirrim~~~Attenuation~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I forgot to add, the prices of logs would drop without firemaking due to the low demand. But then we would see a lot more fletching capes because of the lowered prices and so the prices would sky rocket. Then plummet, then even out, and then make woodcutting for money a bit obsolete.Yew and magic log prices are primarily based in fletching and the prices of bowstrings and nature runes. Maple and eucalyptus logs are the ones that would be affected, and maple logs were crap to begin with. Eucalyptus logs are a relatively recent addition to the game and, while they're nice, I don't think they'd be missed all that much. Honestly, woodcutting for money is already obsolete. You can't even break 200k gp/hr. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4ylan Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Just as useless as smithing, crafting, etc. Smithing makes armour to fight with and crafting makes the jewelery you wear. Firemaking was meant to be a gold sink. Once you burn the log, there's no way to profit or get it back. This way is stabilizes the economy.It's not a gold sink; it's log sink. The gold doesn't leave the system. It only changes hands. Unless you buy your logs in a store, I suppose, but that's kind of silly. Oh yea, I didn't realize that ~~~The Harpy List~~~Harpy Facts~~~It's Super Effective~~~The Beginning~~~Harpy Therapy Center~~~Alg~~~Jedi Harpy~~~Rohirrim~~~Attenuation~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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