Well, title sais it all.... Does salve and slayer helm stack? I'm wondering cause of spectres... :)

Nope!

So fury > salve at spectres as a task?

So fury > salve at spectres as a task?

 

Yep your best bet for Spectres is slayer helm + fury. Would be pretty awesome if the salve stacked though :cool:

So fury > salve at spectres as a task?

 

Yep your best bet for Spectres is slayer helm + fury. Would be pretty awesome if the salve stacked though :cool:

 

 

I disagree. Salve amulet (e) after Tarns Lair is 20% att and str. This is 5% more than Slayer mask.

So fury > salve at spectres as a task?

 

Yep your best bet for Spectres is slayer helm + fury. Would be pretty awesome if the salve stacked though :cool:

 

 

I disagree. Salve amulet (e) after Tarns Lair is 20% att and str. This is 5% more than Slayer mask.

 

But since spectres require face mask/slayer helm...

So fury > salve at spectres as a task?

 

Yep your best bet for Spectres is slayer helm + fury. Would be pretty awesome if the salve stacked though :cool:

 

 

I disagree. Salve amulet (e) after Tarns Lair is 20% att and str. This is 5% more than Slayer mask.

 

But since spectres require face mask/slayer helm...

 

Then wear the face mask with the salve (e) since most people pray anyways, you won't need the extra defense.

So fury > salve at spectres as a task?

 

Yep your best bet for Spectres is slayer helm + fury. Would be pretty awesome if the salve stacked though :cool:

 

 

I disagree. Salve amulet (e) after Tarns Lair is 20% att and str. This is 5% more than Slayer mask.

 

But since spectres require face mask/slayer helm...

 

Then wear the face mask with the salve (e) since most people pray anyways, you won't need the extra defense.

 

Most people who slay have slayer helm.

 

Most people with slayer helm aren't dumb enough to keep the separate parts.

 

Therefore you WILL be wearing slayer helm, making the choice (as rightly posted by the op) if they stack slave if they dont fury.

 

Also EDIT to previous post meant nosepeg lol

So fury > salve at spectres as a task?

 

Yep your best bet for Spectres is slayer helm + fury. Would be pretty awesome if the salve stacked though :cool:

 

 

I disagree. Salve amulet (e) after Tarns Lair is 20% att and str. This is 5% more than Slayer mask.

 

But since spectres require face mask/slayer helm...

 

Then wear the face mask with the salve (e) since most people pray anyways, you won't need the extra defense.

 

Most people who slay have slayer helm.

 

Most people with slayer helm aren't dumb enough to keep the separate parts.

 

Therefore you WILL be wearing slayer helm, making the choice (as rightly posted by the op) if they stack slave if they dont fury.

 

Also EDIT to previous post meant nosepeg lol

 

It costs a mere penny to get a nosepeg from a slayer master (who you pass on your way there anyways).

But why give up 30, 32, 27, 0, 30, 7 defence for all 0s especially if you don't plan on praying?

 

Especially considering for most people 5% attack and str boost doesn't even make a noticeable impact on accuracy or raise max hit?

But why give up 30, 32, 27, 0, 30, 7 defence for all 0s especially if you don't plan on praying?

 

Especially considering for most people 5% attack and str boost doesn't even make a noticeable impact on accuracy or raise max hit?

 

But spectres attack with magic and the slayer helm gives 0 magic defense, so it's defense bonuses are useless there.

But why give up 30, 32, 27, 0, 30, 7 defence for all 0s especially if you don't plan on praying?

 

Especially considering for most people 5% attack and str boost doesn't even make a noticeable impact on accuracy or raise max hit?

 

But spectres attack with magic and the slayer helm gives 0 magic defense, so it's defense bonuses are useless there.

 

But you have to run thru other stuff to reach them regardless of if ur going to tower, tunnels or well, which means extra defence can be useful so you don;t get hit too bad on the way, especially in tunnels

Use fury and slayer helm. No helm wear salve.

But why give up 30, 32, 27, 0, 30, 7 defence for all 0s especially if you don't plan on praying?

 

Especially considering for most people 5% attack and str boost doesn't even make a noticeable impact on accuracy or raise max hit?

 

But spectres attack with magic and the slayer helm gives 0 magic defense, so it's defense bonuses are useless there.

 

But you have to run thru other stuff to reach them regardless of if ur going to tower, tunnels or well, which means extra defence can be useful so you don;t get hit too bad on the way, especially in tunnels

 

Usually the other monsters aren't a big threat...I go to the tower and the only thing I have to "run" through is crawling hands since I can use the spiky chain. I'd still choose +5 bonus vs. the extra defense you'll ONLY use while getting there.

But why give up 30, 32, 27, 0, 30, 7 defence for all 0s especially if you don't plan on praying?

 

Especially considering for most people 5% attack and str boost doesn't even make a noticeable impact on accuracy or raise max hit?

 

But spectres attack with magic and the slayer helm gives 0 magic defense, so it's defense bonuses are useless there.

 

But you have to run thru other stuff to reach them regardless of if ur going to tower, tunnels or well, which means extra defence can be useful so you don;t get hit too bad on the way, especially in tunnels

 

Usually the other monsters aren't a big threat...I go to the tower and the only thing I have to "run" through is crawling hands since I can use the spiky chain. I'd still choose +5 bonus vs. the extra defense you'll ONLY use while getting there.

 

Its not +5

It's 5%

5% when you 70+ is no enough to improve you're accuracy anywhere worthwhile and will not give you anywhere near an extra +1 to your max hit.

Use fury and slayer helm. No helm wear salve.

 

This. The 5% doesn't warrant getting rid of the attack, strength and prayer bonuses. My max hit is 39 with either setup, its fair to assume the attack bonuses are equal to or close to equal as well. So with the fury you're getting an extra 2 prayer bonus and the defence bonus if you chose not to prayer.

But why give up 30, 32, 27, 0, 30, 7 defence for all 0s especially if you don't plan on praying?

 

Especially considering for most people 5% attack and str boost doesn't even make a noticeable impact on accuracy or raise max hit?

 

But spectres attack with magic and the slayer helm gives 0 magic defense, so it's defense bonuses are useless there.

 

But you have to run thru other stuff to reach them regardless of if ur going to tower, tunnels or well, which means extra defence can be useful so you don;t get hit too bad on the way, especially in tunnels

 

Usually the other monsters aren't a big threat...I go to the tower and the only thing I have to "run" through is crawling hands since I can use the spiky chain. I'd still choose +5 bonus vs. the extra defense you'll ONLY use while getting there.

 

Its not +5

It's 5%

5% when you 70+ is no enough to improve you're accuracy anywhere worthwhile and will not give you anywhere near an extra +1 to your max hit.

 

Now you got me, I got my information confused, and I was unaware of the bonuses from the Fury, which you should have mentioned in your original argument, which you didn't, which would have ended this a whole lot sooner.

Yes, Helm is better because 15% + Fury ends up being better than 20%.

 

The defense of the mask really is negligible unless you aren't praying. Since you are praying, you would just flick prayers on whenever running past dangerous monsters (read: only ones are the Mighty Banshees, nothing up to Ab specs are aggressive in the Tower), or just accept getting hit once, since you're praying anyway.

Let's not forget that the slayer helm looks freaking awesome. :thumbup:

A biggy is that slayer helm allows you to kill them far quicker then without it.

I'm talking about the usage of the poli dungeon. Without slayer helm you can't fight them there, which means no cannon, no combat familiars, less spawns and slightly longer banking.

Fury or stole is better then the small 5% bonus as you can just use offensive prayers or gain the stats from fury.

A biggy is that slayer helm allows you to kill them far quicker then without it.

I'm talking about the usage of the poli dungeon. Without slayer helm you can't fight them there, which means no cannon, no combat familiars, less spawns and slightly longer banking.

Fury or stole is better then the small 5% bonus as you can just use offensive prayers or gain the stats from fury.

 

You can still kill them there as long as you use prayer =).

A biggy is that slayer helm allows you to kill them far quicker then without it.

I'm talking about the usage of the poli dungeon. Without slayer helm you can't fight them there, which means no cannon, no combat familiars, less spawns and slightly longer banking.

Fury or stole is better then the small 5% bonus as you can just use offensive prayers or gain the stats from fury.

 

You can still kill them there as long as you use prayer =).

You will still need your slayer helm.

 

When on task, I believe it's better to use a fury/glory instead of a salve (e), because the necklace only gives an additional 5% over the helmet.

A biggy is that slayer helm allows you to kill them far quicker then without it.

I'm talking about the usage of the poli dungeon. Without slayer helm you can't fight them there, which means no cannon, no combat familiars, less spawns and slightly longer banking.

Fury or stole is better then the small 5% bonus as you can just use offensive prayers or gain the stats from fury.

 

You can still kill them there as long as you use prayer =).

You will still need your slayer helm.

 

When on task, I believe it's better to use a fury/glory instead of a salve (e), because the necklace only gives an additional 5% over the helmet.

 

Negative, a nosepeg will suffice.

 

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The extra 5% attack and strength from the Salve amulet is like turning on Clarity of Thought and Burst of Strength. Now, what's better? Fury or Clarity of Thought and Burst of Strength?

 

Thought so.

The extra 5% attack and strength from the Salve amulet is like turning on Clarity of Thought and Burst of Strength. Now, what's better? Fury or Clarity of Thought and Burst of Strength?

 

Thought so.

Thats wrong as its only 5% more if you compare it to not wearing an amulet.

 

With a basic setup without any necklace (whip+def+d boots+ barrows gloves with prayer or tanking gear) you have 113+ slash and 103+ strength

Fury gives 10 slash and 8 strength.

 

(10/113)*100=8.8%

(8/103)*100=7.7%

 

So with the 15% from slayer helm added on it works out at.

Total bonus with fury+slayer helm is 23.8% slash (attack) and 22.7% strength vs 20% attack (slash) and 20% strength.

 

slayer helm + fury >salve (e) + nosepeg or slayer helm