clan and teams, whats the difference?

[andyk47]

Ok I've been back to rs for a year now since the wildy died, from rsc - dec 07 wilderness was embarked upon by clans with Pk trips, occasionally you would have wars but its was mainly PK trips.

 

Ok now warring is bigger than pking for most clans. With alot of clans dying it meant people opened teams, who i assumed only warred in cwa only which i can understand. However, I just read the team silent ember topic of a pk trip out, although im happy to see more people in the wilderness, I'd just assume if your warring cwa and doing pk trips then that team is NO different to a regular clan so my question is

 

1) What draws the line between clans and teams

 

2) If your in a team do u PK?

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning?

 

No baits or flames are meant to team silent ember and their members and could people keep baits and flames off this topic.

 

andy_k_47

[Uffan5]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams

Clans should be the main priority. Clan events>team events. Teams i think are more for just fun and to kill time with some wars when you're bored.

 

2) If your in a team do u PK?

Depends what kind of members you have, if they are willing to or not.

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

I don't care.

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning?

N/A.

[Nobody]

Personally, I define a team as a group that specializes in one specific thing. For example CWA teams, boss hunting, Pest Control, Soul Wars, etc. When the team starts spreading to include more functions than I would say it's really a clan and that it is multi-clanning assuming people are not solely in the team same as a clan would be.

[kuru72]

Team is something that is created by a group of friends that are in different clans. Since they're in different clans, they can't war with each other so they create a team to have the fun of warring with each other and doing something together as a TEAM and not as a random group of friends.

[Danny_TeamDan]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams

The hole point of the clan or team is rather obvious. Clans have stricter policies and do way more events. While teams are around to kill time, meet new people, practice your warring skills, and most importantly have fun.

 

 

2) If your in a team do u PK?

We pk ocasionally but generaly speaking don't have great opts to pk.

 

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

It's purely up to them, there are alread some that are pvp based only.

 

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning?

 

Nope, I consider it a chance for you to touch up your pvp tanking/skills or w/e also they tend to pk and take the loot and go they are there once again for fun while clans are there for a topic or a hard challenge and aren't there for loot really. Kinda sounds like you're saying CWA = Teams PVP = clans and if your team is pvp it's multiclanning cuz only clans are allowed to pvp...

[Kimberly]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams

 

The activities they perform, the strictness of their rules regarding what you can/can't be in, activity...but most importantly, how long they'll be open.

 

2) If your in a team do u PK?

 

I've been in only one or two teams. They were never permanent things for me.

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

 

PvP oriented teams are not exclusively limited to CWA. Look at teams that we have here: TPR, Silent Ember, Legends Never Die. They've done pk trips once and a while. It depends on what kind of community you have to work with.

 

To say that the wilderness is clan-exclusive territory is the kind of attitude that leads to 'OMG TEH CLAN WURLD IZ DYING!@" mentality.

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning?

 

No.

 

Whatever clan an individual belongs to has a responsibility to clearly define what's okay and what's not when it comes to teams. That is not a fansite's job nor a community's job to tell them otherwise. If a person can be loyal to both clan and team, I feel you've got no right to crucify me for it.

 

If I'm in a clan that PKs in the GMT timezone, one that I'm loyal and active in, but I want a little late night action (:twss:) I should be fully within my right to join a team of any type. It does not lessen my loyalties for any side.

 

I don't see why clans complain.

[HAR]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams

Usually its teams that allow multiclanning and are only formed purely for fun where as clans don't tend to allow multiclanning and are more serious about what they do.

 

2) If your in a team do u PK?

I'm in a CC but no, we are CWA based and so we don't PK.

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

Totally dependant on the team, some teams do where as others like CWA more. Since PKing often can lead to unplanned incursions between clans there is more chance of a member of the same clan and team fighting which could lead to trouble but generally it isn't a problem.

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning?

Well being in a team even if you don't PK is multiclanning lol ...

[Pan_Nx]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams

Clans tend to be more serious, require more from you and be more active in pvp.

 

2) If your in a team do u PK?

Teams are lame yo

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

Nah. Leave it to the big boys.

[The Observer]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams

 

Teams are more geared towards a specialty, for example, clan wars teams, pest control teams, etc. They also tend to favour a member attending a clan event over team events.

 

2) If your in a team do u PK?

 

Once in a while, yes.

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

 

If they want to I don't see why not.

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning?

 

No, because a team comes after your main clan. I find that multi-clanning is more where someone skips events to go do another team/clan's event.

[Guddurulz]

There is no difference between a clan and a team nowadays ,Its just a cover up for multiclanning when it should fall into that category as teams started pking, I am personally against clans fighting teams as then a clan is not fighting a 1vs 1 but a 1 vs 2-3 fight. It is solely to cover up the multiclanning issues when teams have forums,official list etc, The proper definition of team should be learned from those who goes for monster hunting or pc/sw teams.

[Danny_TeamDan]

There is no difference between a clan a team nowadays ,Its just a cover up for multiclanning when it should fall into that category as teams started pking, I am personally against clans fighting teams as then a clan is not fighting a 1vs 1 but a 1 vs 2-3 fight. It is solely to cover up the multiclanning issues when teams have forums,official list etc, The proper definition of team should be learned from those who goes for monster hunting or pc/sw teams.

it's easy for CWA to not want to war teams but sometimes pvp clans need teams to fill in gaps or give them a good fun fight. I find it rather hypocrytical how your 'ex clan' DV states on their site no multiclanners whatsoever yet you have some, seems like you as well are covering up multiclanners?

[Guddurulz]

First of all where is the time to dedicate urself in more then 1 clan/team? secondly dandaman u shud read my post again i said its my personal opinion

[imblooded]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams

 

Clans have priority over teams.

 

2) If your in a team do u PK?

 

Ocasionally.

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

 

I dont see why a team should be limited to a certain thing.

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning?

 

no, teams provide extra warring/fun/friends that your clan doesnt, as long as its Clan>Team i think its fine.

[Beckingham]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams

There really isn't one, other than which one you give priority to.

 

2) If your in a team do u PK?

Yes, sometimes.

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

Absolutely, that's why I joined a team.

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning?

Honestly, yes. I think it could be considered multi-clanning, but I also think it's a great way to have fun and make friends outside of your clan. It helps improve relationships between clans as well as offering a different kind of experience to people who are used to predominantly one kind of warring (like me until I joined Lnd).

[Kimberly]

I am personally against clans fighting teams as then a clan is not fighting a 1vs 1 but a 1 vs 2-3 fight

 

A lot of people share your opinion, and I can understand why. But think of it this way: you have a pk trip and you have some guests along with you. You and say, one or two EoS members lose the fight, and the victor posts "<Clan> + EoS versus <Winning Clan>"

 

Is that accurate? No. Generally you correct them, right? After all, who in their right mind would say that one or two members constitutes a whole clan? It's a misconception that, generally, is corrected during the course of the aftermath topic.

 

So tell me then, if people can correct this misconception on aftermath topics, why can't they do this when it comes to teams?

 

It's something I don't understand; and to me, it just seems a bit ignorant to make a blanket statement like that.

[Danny_TeamDan]

First of all where is the time to dedicate urself in more then 1 clan/team? secondly dandaman u shud read my post again i said its my personal opinion

 

I thought you were in DK + DV, and then TR FA...

 

As to having personaly opinions that's fine but do realize opinions can still hold hypocracy in them.

[infinitone]

Personally, I define a team as a group that specializes in one specific thing. For example CWA teams, boss hunting, Pest Control, Soul Wars, etc. When the team starts spreading to include more functions than I would say it's really a clan and that it is multi-clanning assuming people are not solely in the team same as a clan would be.

 

Nicely put.

[Thehitman324]

wow my post got deleted, guess I can't say tmy opinions in a public forum anymore or is it maybe biased questionmark

 

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[Laikrob]

wow my post got deleted, guess I can't say tmy opinions in a public forum anymore or is it maybe biased questionmark

 

inbe4deletedbyladyninane

Your post was deleted because it was another one in what seems to be a series of yours, taking jabs at DV.

 

1) The OP asked to keep this flame free (that also includes flame bait)

 

2) While the clan section has very relaxed rules compared to the rest of the forum, that doesn't mean that every day is flame day.

 

3) Are you confusing this with a forum that encourages flaming, baiting and making snide comments about your personal beef on every topic? Well, you must have clicked the wrong link. :unsure:

 

Next time if you have a problem with a deleted post, send a PM to Das or a clan staff member.

[Thehitman324]

sorry that my personal opinions/facts are hurtful, just trying to set the example between a team and a clan and that suited perfectly :c

[Mister_T]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams

I'm not allowed to cheat/behave nh with my clan. Wich I sometimes do with my team :rolleyes:

 

2) If your in a team do u PK?

Yes, we do Pk sometimes

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

Teams should only pk imo, teams are allowed to multiclan in, so you should've more members to recruit. A 50 vs 50 fight in clan wars would be boring, pking with 150 opts or a 150 vs 150 in Pvp is more fun.

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning?

Nope

[andyk47]

interesting that most people in a pking/cwa team dont class it as multi clanning and most in none do. 4 years ago it would have been classed as multi clanning and i know changes occur naturally in life and also in rs, just amazed at the big change in this.

[Tycoonman15]

I would call teams either of these:

 

1. Friends which you enjoy to fight with but cannot under normal circumstances (different clans)

 

2. Clans which have multiclanners (even though they would then be teams, but you get the idea <_<

 

These could be confused with specialised clans like PC Clans, GWD Clans, and skillers clans which do not allow multiclanners (in their particular area of 'expertise') which I see as clans. I also would not join a team with people that I do not know, because I think teams should only be for friends.

[Beckingham]

interesting that most people in a pking/cwa team dont class it as multi clanning and most in none do. 4 years ago it would have been classed as multi clanning and i know changes occur naturally in life and also in rs, just amazed at the big change in this.

 

I think most people just see it as a relatively harmless form of multi-clanning, but they don't want to refer to it as multi-clanning because that phrase has always had extremely negative connotations.

[indianishere]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams.

Clans have a hierarchy in decision making. They have more longevity as compared to teams.

(I personally feel a clan adopts itself to the character of there leaders)

2) If your in a team do u PK?

I am not in a team so I cant answer this.

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwar?

It depends on the team.

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning?

Yes (but since we have a habit of twisting the rules, most people wont agree with me. If a Team does Pking and Cwars it is as good as a clan )

 

 

 

 

 

interesting that most people in a pking/cwa team dont class it as multi clanning and most in none do. 4 years ago it would have been classed as multi clanning and i know changes occur naturally in life and also in rs, just amazed at the big change in this.

 

I think most people just see it as a relatively harmless form of multi-clanning, but they don't want to refer to it as multi-clanning because that phrase has always had extremely negative connotations.

 

@ andy :

Most people posting here are in clans and teams, they wont agree themselves that they multiclan :)

 

@beckingham :

Harmless multi clanning :wub: :wub:

People in teams here have got members from "TWR PARTICIPATING CLANS" where as DV has member from "RSC CLANS" and yet we are termed as multi-clanners. :unsure:

 

Rules on TWR mention "NO member from TWR participating clans" so we dont see ourselves as multi-clanners. :twisted: