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The Hegemony (12th Feb = 2018, Part 2)

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Value of Danish, Swedish, Icelandic krones, please? (They should have risen, mouch (due to being out of production while still being valid).)

 

So far a total of 1,000,000,000 DKK, 3,500,000,000 SEK and 10,000,000,000 ISK now has returned to the control of the governement.

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No way you can build 100 destroyers, that would take over 20 years, with your facilities.

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Australian research continues. I get my helmets and Fluid armour tommorow, and the new line of guns in 3 days.

 

Guinea border defenses are tightened, and there is a 20,000 troop presence across the entire thing. Other than that, Australia wishes for good relations with Japan in the future.

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No Retech, its NOT ok for you to annex anymore countries in Asia. Well not for 5 years anyway :)

 

Russia steps up military production, sinking the rest of their available budget a year into equipment, and war machines

 

For airfoce were going to concentrate on these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-35

 

For the navy we shall be building submarines and stuff

 

We will also be producing large amounts of FMG bullets, you know the ones with a high penetrating power.

 

I think its fair to say, close to 100 of the jets per year, 100 submarines per year, near a couple of million FMG bullets a year.

 

I will update the Russian forces, every year.

 

Oh also, the Russian cars, have moved in against Honda-Toyota (sorry, can't have you having a monopoly). We set up in all major countries except Switzerland, unless they're ok with it. Lowering Japan's gdp a bit, and making Russia's higher as its a government company.

It's a REALLY big shaft.

I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.

how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time?

100 submarines per year is absurd.

 

Also, new line of weapons. I'll name them the Artemis series, since I don't want a random string of letters and numbers like most guns.

 

Theres a long range sniper rifle, with a barrel so long that it's almost unwieldly. It can attach to the tech helmet to take terrain data and wind speed, which it uses to autocorrect the users aim.

 

A pistol, which will be issued to all troops no matter which squad they are in, but will come equipped with a silencer for some squads, and various other addons depending on the squad it is given to. Designed to use depleted uranium ammunition, but will accept other ammo varieties. I'd also like to buy uranium from Russia to create said shells.

 

And a rifle, machine gun, and RPG. I'm no good at weapon specs, so yeah. All of the weapons are designed with both depleted uranium and regular ammo in mind.

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Auto correct aim? Does it swing them around or something? Or like move them :S?

 

Also, ok.

 

30 subs?

It's a REALLY big shaft.

I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.

how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time?

Well it's quite simple. Worker wages come back to the government in taxation. Raw Materials are extracted by Japanese companies in South-East Asia, with their wages going back to the government. The only price there would be would be if we came to a raw material which is required to build the machines to get the raw materials out.

 

The second thing is true, but if the 5 yen was worth 5 normal yen, then it went up in price, and you printed 50 billion yen to make each yen worth the same as before, then you still have 50 billion normal yen. The savings of the people, let's say it is one yen, is still worth just as much as it was before and can buy the exact same goods as it could before. It's just that the government has 50 billion Yen. :thumbsup:

 

I was just bringing America as an example since I live there and I know plenty about it, considering I like bashing the presidents. :P

 

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That reminds me. If we implement your system, then Dusty won't be able to sell his industrial capacity well. :P

 

Retech you can make your currency worth whatever the hell you like in your own country but, unless you lie to people when trading, your currency will still be worth the same amount. All you are doing is creating a knot that will bite you in the backside when no one wants to trade with you because Sere intervenes and tell you exactly what I have said.

Your economy should crash because you clearly have no understand of any of the principles involved...like the price of living and taxation. I don't mind explaining them to you but you don't seem interested in understanding them, you just want to produce stupid amounts of money from nowhere.

 

 

If we implement my system then Dusty can still sell his Industrial Capacity, I have no idea why you would think he couldn't....

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

Value of Danish, Swedish, Icelandic krones, please? (They should have risen, mouch (due to being out of production while still being valid).)

 

So far a total of 1,000,000,000 DKK, 3,500,000,000 SEK and 10,000,000,000 ISK now has returned to the control of the governement.

 

I have no idea how to work that out.

NOK is 0.19 to the Dollar.

If they are still valid but not being produced then they should stay at the same price...

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

Value of Danish, Swedish, Icelandic krones, please? (They should have risen, mouch (due to being out of production while still being valid).)

 

So far a total of 1,000,000,000 DKK, 3,500,000,000 SEK and 10,000,000,000 ISK now has returned to the control of the governement.

 

I have no idea how to work that out.

NOK is 0.19 to the Dollar.

If they are still valid but not being produced then they should stay at the same price...

As I slowly gain more (and thus less is in the public) it should rise in value due to being "rare".

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Sigh.

 

(All figures in Coif, which is not really convertable(that I can be bothered to do anyway) into Dollars) For anyone that bothered GDP is roughly 72 thou US Dollars In Parity Purchasing Power.

Statistics:

Population: 8,500,000

GDP: 424

Taxation: 13.00%

Tax Collected: 468,520,000

 

Public Spending:

Police Force: State Controlled

Health Care: State Controlled

Industry: Private Controlled

Agricultural: Private Controlled

Energy: State Controlled

Armed Forces: State Controlled

Legislature: State Controlled

Research: State Controlled and Private Controlled

 

Police Force:

See Army

 

Healthcare:

Coverage: 1 per 300

Number of Doctors: 28,333

Number of Nurses per Doctor: 6

Number of Nurses: 170,000

 

Industry:

Realisable output, per year: 40,000,000 Tonnes(May need revising I can't find statistics)

Regulation Costs: 0

 

Agricultural:

Supportable population: 6,000,000

Regulation Costs: 0

 

Energy:

Solar-Hydro: 20,000,000

Solar: 500,000

 

Armed Forces:

Standing Army: 100,000

Reserve Army: 30,000

Police Force: 40,000

Volunteer Team in South Africa: 4,000

Intelligence: 3,500

Special Operations: 2,000

Total: 179,500

 

Legislation:

Waste: 1,000,000

 

Research:

CERN projects: 100,000,000

Aerospace Program: 50,000,000

Basel Research Program: 4,000,000

Bern Research Team: 30,000,000

Ionosphere Program: 2,000,000

Oil-Free Plastics: 200,000

Bolter Rifle: Private Research

S-Net: Private Research

 

 

Total Cost of Health Care: 90,100,000

Total Cost of Energy: 20,500,000

Total Cost of Army: 152,216,000

Total Cost of Legislation: 1,000,000

Total Cost of Research: 186,200,000

 

Total Cost 450,016,000

Surplus/Deficit 18,504,000

 

 

Edit:

Total Cost 450,016,000 =76,417,811,321 Dollars

Surplus/Deficit 18,504,000 =3,142,188,679 Dollars

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

Value of Danish, Swedish, Icelandic krones, please? (They should have risen, mouch (due to being out of production while still being valid).)

 

So far a total of 1,000,000,000 DKK, 3,500,000,000 SEK and 10,000,000,000 ISK now has returned to the control of the governement.

 

I have no idea how to work that out.

NOK is 0.19 to the Dollar.

If they are still valid but not being produced then they should stay at the same price...

As I slowly gain more (and thus less is in the public) it should rise in value due to being "rare".

 

They would still be worth the same amount though...If you mean buying and selling the notes then they are not in circulation and so don't contribute...They go out of the public domain and into the private domain.

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

What I do is I wait for the money to come to me, but I don't use it, I collect it until the public has as good as none of it so that it'll become "rare", then I'll exchange it as it's value has risen as high as it gets.

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Man... I really suck at these sorts of things... I actually have no idea what you guys talk about ><

 

I just try say something increases my GDP and hope someone corrects me

It's a REALLY big shaft.

I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.

how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time?

What I do is I wait for the money to come to me, but I don't use it, I collect it until the public has as good as none of it so that it'll become "rare", then I'll exchange it as it's value has risen as high as it gets.

:wall:

You would flood the market and make them worthless.

 

No Retech, its NOT ok for you to annex anymore countries in Asia. Well not for 5 years anyway :)

 

Russia steps up military production, sinking the rest of their available budget a year into equipment, and war machines

 

For airfoce were going to concentrate on these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-35

 

For the navy we shall be building submarines and stuff

 

We will also be producing large amounts of FMG bullets, you know the ones with a high penetrating power.

 

I think its fair to say, close to 100 of the jets per year, 100 submarines per year, near a couple of million FMG bullets a year.

 

I will update the Russian forces, every year.

 

Oh also, the Russian cars, have moved in against Honda-Toyota (sorry, can't have you having a monopoly). We set up in all major countries except Switzerland, unless they're ok with it. Lowering Japan's gdp a bit, and making Russia's higher as its a government company.

100 jets and 100 submarines...do you know how much 1 jet and 1 submarine costs?

 

Also, Russian car companies are barred from setting up in the SR. Honda-Toyota has a monopoly here for a while, and nobody would work for a Russian company anyways.

 

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Emphasis is on a powerful gun that can shoot through infantry armour, is reliable, and is cheap to mass produce.

I don't think beautiful Italy wants ugly Russian cars either, thanks.

'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I!

What I do is I wait for the money to come to me, but I don't use it, I collect it until the public has as good as none of it so that it'll become "rare", then I'll exchange it as it's value has risen as high as it gets.

Cunning...Like a fox that has just been shot.

 

Seriously, the Krone would stay at the same level, in fact people would probably not accept it because it was 'rare' meaning they had to go to the bank and change it up...More work for them.

Otherwise you could just go 'I am releasing a new currency, there are only 5 coins and I am autioning them to my people.'

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

I'm not selling it back, but due to still being valid I can exchange it for another currency.

 

Anyways that five coin idea you said, think about all those expensive super-rare coins that was released in limited edition in the US, those are expensive.

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Oh yeah, thats what I was supposed to be doing:

Airforce:

12 Stratos Jets

6 P-Jets

 

Armed Forces:

Telum Rs and Bs, with some lucky few getting Telum Cs

Special Operations and elite units get Telum R+s

 

Tanks:

None

 

Navy:

None.

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

Mather the point is that people wouldn't use them and so they arn't actually worth anything to the economy...they might be collector's items, but that's all they are...something that you display, not pay with...

Also you would have to ask people how much they were willing to pay for it, Switzerland is willing to give you 5 Dollars per Tonne of Paper

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

Ok for a production force like Russia, and for our funds, what is an acceptable amount of jets/submarines

It's a REALLY big shaft.

I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.

how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time?

Probably about 20 jets a year and 12 submarines every other year.. These things take time to build. I could be off, though.

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Ico:

Jet planes:

Less than a month

$27.9 million - $29.9 million

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15

 

Submarines:

2-4 Billion

36-40 Months (3 years - 3 and a half)

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_class_submarine

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

Ok for a production force like Russia, and for our funds, what is an acceptable amount of jets/submarines

Well, if we're going by 1% of your GDP, then you have 21.26 billion to spend each year.

A Virginia Class sub (modern US navy) costs $2.8b (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_class_submarine)

So, you can build 8 (rounded up) per year. And that's using your entire surplus.

At the peak of my production during wartime with far more facilities than you, during the last thread, I was putting out 6 a year.

I really think we should stick with 1%, as it's more realistic, and it means we won't have absurdly large armies and navies.

 

I also think we should have some sort of upkeep system. The reason why the US doesn't have a ton of carriers is because the upkeep price is absurd.

I'm thinking per ship it costs 5-10% of it's original price a year to upkeep. That means that if you pay 20 billion on subs, it'll cost about a billion-2 billion a year to upkeep. This can easily be kept track of by just writing down however much you spend on ships in a word file.

Maybe you can counteract this by keeping ships in reserve, but it takes one real life day to put them back in action.

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Which reminds me. The military equipment from Croatia is up for sale.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Ground_Army

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Air_Force_and_Defense (I will be keeping 8 MiG-21bisD s)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Navy (I will be keeping 2 fast attack 'king' class cruisers, 4 mirna class patrol boats, and 1 minehunter)

 

Bidding starts at 10b.

To be paid as: 1/20th gold, 19/20 currency

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