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I know that willow logs are basically useless, unless they're all you can fletch/burn/cut.

Why, however did they drop from 30, to 15 coins (after the G.E. was released) and then to the 8gp they are now?
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Probably because the infinitely superior maple logs can be obtained so easily with MTK. It's why those dropped from 100 -> 60 -> 30, and of course that would have an effect on worse items.

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When the skill capes came out they brought a new interest in getting fletching, woodcutting, and firemaking skills. Price change was inevitable.
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First of all, after the GE was released everything dropped a bit in price regardless of what it was. But, some items had a floor on them (willow logs for one) so they could not drop and thusly became unsellable even at minimum. Also, as mentioned above, maple logs became the new willow logs of RuneScape because of how easy and cheap they became. After many items becoming stuck in the GE with regards to price updates, Jagex intervened and changed some mechanics, floors, and ceiling on items and with willows at their unsellable state, they were due to be changed.
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Ahh, yea, that makes sense. I wondered if it had anything to do with people becoming more aware of better alternatives.

I just was thinking about the days when I was charging 30 gold a log as a supplier to fletchers.
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Also, most bots that exist to this day that are undetectable (Which is easy) mainly cut willows. At Draynor / Seers.

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For a while it was the price floor Jagex put on them that kept them so high. Their price right now seems correct to me.
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Jagex changed the price floor/ceiling on many items, Willows were one of them. They've always had much higher supply then demand, so they fell to 8gp

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Also, most bots that exist to this day that are undetectable (Which is easy) mainly cut willows. At Draynor / Seers.


It's not just bots, everyone in f2p cuts willows.

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Also, most bots that exist to this day that are undetectable (Which is easy) mainly cut willows. At Draynor / Seers.


It's not just bots, everyone in f2p cuts willows.

this is also what is causing the price to drop

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Basically, the limited use of willows and the massive amount f2p brings into the game coupled with the removal of willows price floors mean that they have finally dropped to a very low price. Massive supply and little demand so prices drop, and drop, and drop, and drop. What the removal of the price floor demonstrates is the influence Jagex has on prices. Many items have reached their ceilings or floors. Jagex has massive potential to influence prices by removing the floors and ceilings in place at the GE.

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Cheap (8gp) willows means you can buy 99 fletching for just over 3 million gp, or 99 firemaking for just over 1.1 million. Things surely have changed.

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Simple answer: price floor removals. A lot of items had their price floors removed so they can actually become sellable.

Maples are far more often used than willows, which means not many people shall use willows.

Willows are still good for people who lack cash though.

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Keep in mind that there is always a better alternative for some items.

For Willows --> best experience, so high supply. Yet for using, maples are better in every way.

If you want more examples:
Tuna --> hardly ever used, but there is a high amount of them, due to Swordfish (which are caught along with them) being high. Therefor it is widely used as raw to cook. But cooked tuna.. mwah. (yet swordfish isn't used in members, due to monkfish being cheaper)

Tarromorin herbs --> Tough gathered a lot.. there isn't much use to them. The ''lower'' herbs as marrentil / guam are even worth more then this. Every alternative is better ;)

There are more examples ;) but willows are an extreme form. (perhaps think onion seeds)
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Also, most bots that exist to this day that are undetectable (Which is easy) mainly cut willows. At Draynor / Seers.


It's not just bots, everyone in f2p cuts willows.


And they fail oaks are better geepees and way less crowded so... better xp in reality.
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Willows have always been the F2P woodcutting staple, similar to iron and coal are to mining but with much less demand. Remember, armor is almost never considered junk, but anything you can make with willow logs is. And the only other thing you can do is burn them.

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And they fail oaks are better geepees and way less crowded so... better xp in reality.


Unless you cut willows at rimmington...
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And they fail oaks are better geepees and way less crowded so... better xp in reality.

Unless you cut willows at rimmington...

Actually, there isn't that much difference in terms of exp, maybe 25%. I tested out oaks and could make like 100k gp per hour in F2P which is pretty good.

As to why willows are so cheap:
Ever since MTK people were getting maples for the same price that willows used to be. Maples are better in every way so willows crashed pretty hard but stayed decently valuable because people held onto their maples. Once the GE came out, everyone used the simplicity of it to offload all of their maples which made them crash. Then willows which had a street of 15-20 gp each became worth like 5-10 gp each on the street. I remember buying willows for 10 gp each on W1 and selling them for 22 gp each (the floor price at the time) in the GE. I could double my money every week for the first little while until other people started puting in mass amounts of willows as the trade limits loomed. Then once the trade restrictions hit, everyone was forced to dump their willows onto the GE. I put 100 willow logs onto the GE the day before the trade restrictions took effect and it took over 2 months to sell them all. Thats how many willows were in the market already.

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Cheap (8gp) willows means you can buy 99 fletching for just over 3 million gp, or 99 firemaking for just over 1.1 million. Things surely have changed.


According to GE the difference between yew logs + bow string is only about 3 gp off from yew longbows. And it's a lot faster. I don't think fletching willows would be worth it past 70.

As for firemaking, there's really no reason to use willows as maples aren't that much more expensive. I got 99 FM from just the maples I got from MTK.

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The grey triangle became released into the market when the GE price floor was removed.
Although yes, demand for them has also fallen with the fall in the price of maples too.
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