Torlen Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I've noticed that a few people don't understand the deal behind resetting prestige, or quite understand how it all works. The first time you complete a floor, you get a prestige bonus. This is important because your base xp is based on the average of the xp you get for the floor and your prestige bonus. The idea behind prestige is that you will do each floor that you can one time, then reset your ring and start over again from floor one. For example, say you are level 34 dungeoneering. You have full access to floor 17. After completion of floor 17 (and all consecutive floors) you will have a prestige level of 17. Now, you could run floor 17 again and again and again until you open up the next floor, but there is a very large xp penalty because of this. Because your total xp gained is an average, you are averaging one number with 0, which means you get a -50% penalty to all xp if you aren't gaining any prestige bonus. This is where the reset button comes into play. If you have a prestige level of 17 and you reset your ring, you still have a prestige of 17. However, you can now start at floor 1 again and get a prestige bonus of 17 for all floors up to 17. This is huge. When you did floor 1 the first time, you maybe got 100 xp for it. Now you are averaging 50 (baseish xp for floor 1) and roughly 1500-1700 (roughly the prestige bonus for 17), bringing your xp for floor 1 up to 700-800. There is one warning, however. You MUST NOT reset your ring if your current progress (on the ring interface) is lower than the previous progress. If you reset while your current level is lower, you reset your prestige to that lower level. So if you have your prestige of 17, run floor 1 and then reset your ring thinking you can run the easiest floor over and over, you will end up resetting your prestige back to 1. I hope this explained it well enough for people to understand. TL:DR - Run every floor you can a single time, reset your ring and start over at floor 1, waiting to reset again until you've completed every floor that you can. This is a good example of how resetting prestige helps. This is my xp gain for floor 1. FAQ In your example, if I complete up to level 17 for the first time, reset, join a party that starts from level 11, continue till 17 (experiencing the bonus of 17 prestige for this 7 levels), reset, will I get a new prestige of 7 instead? And another scenario. I completed up to level 17 for the first time, reset, join a party that starts from level 11, continue till 17, get out, start from level 1, played till 10, reset. Will I still get 17 prestige? If you were to do floors 10-17 and reset, your prestige will reset to 8. You would have to go back and complete floors 1-9 as well to keep your bonus of 17. So...are you saying that it is best to reset at any even level because new floors unlock on the odds? At some point this no longer becomes plausible. That one extra prestige level spread over the course of 20 floors would only churn out roughly 2-4k extra xp. If you have farther than that to go to achieve your next even level, I wouldn't bother wasting time getting -50% by repeating a floor over and over. I will say that I have done this one time, because I was at floor 19 and needed 50 xp to unlock floor 20. I just took the -50% for a single floor to gain that extra prestige level. So let me make sure I'm right on this, if you're just starting off you would want to run it something like(This is assuming floor lvl = your lvl?) Floor 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.. and then at level 5 you don't level up with the fifth floor, you reset your floor and start back over at 1 with 5th prestige, but once you level up you should keep going. So say you reset and level up on floor 3, you would still want to do floor 4 and 5 instead of skipping to 6. Am I getting this right or am I way off lol You're getting it. You still have to do floor 4 and 5. If you skipped to 6 your current prestige will only be 4 because you only completed 4 floors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonni Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 yeah it was pretty hard to work things out and jagex didn't do a very good job of explaining mechanics like this. thanks! dedicate your idle computer power to a scientific project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vansing Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 This clears things up, thanks. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benisfab Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Very well worded - 1st explanation thats made sense to me anyway Had only just worked out how it worked myself - after a lot of silly mistakes, and doing exactly what you warned against <_< Had like a prestige of 16 run up, and then reset it twice, meaning once again i'm getting like 100 exp for the 1st floors :wall: Wont make that mistake again. My Blog2 Visage Drops.Over 1800 Castle Wars Tickets.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezz Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Nice! Thanks! A pretty good explanation of how prestige works :) [insert birds flying in a circle here]Yes, that sig was annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabawoki13 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Thanks Torlen :smile: I actually understand how it works now, this will be useful. Achievement DiariesCompleted: Lumbridge, Falador, Seers, Varrock, Fremennik and Karamja Finished Hard: Ardougne Music Tracks - 703/704Nomad killed at 114 combat Slayer drops: Black Mask x2 Clue scroll rewards: Guthix Platebody - 900k, Guthix F Helm 1mil, Bandos Kite - 2.3mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazhor Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 If this was a facebook status i would like it. But yeah, thanks for clearing it up! :smile: Visit my blog! Click the madness for more madness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepheras Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 In your example, if I complete up to level 17 for the first time, reset, join a party that starts from level 11, continue till 17 (experiencing the bonus of 17 prestige for this 7 levels), reset, will I get a new prestige of 7 instead? And another scenario. I completed up to level 17 for the first time, reset, join a party that starts from level 11, continue till 17, get out, start from level 1, played till 10, reset. Will I still get 17 prestige? "Do you really want to go back to the time when Falador was grey, lesser demon look like goats, dragons look like cows, hellhound look like cats and your character stands as stiff as a statue?" -F1775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torlen Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 In your example, if I complete up to level 17 for the first time, reset, join a party that starts from level 11, continue till 17 (experiencing the bonus of 17 prestige for this 7 levels), reset, will I get a new prestige of 7 instead? And another scenario. I completed up to level 17 for the first time, reset, join a party that starts from level 11, continue till 17, get out, start from level 1, played till 10, reset. Will I still get 17 prestige? If you were to do floors 10-17 and reset, your prestige will reset to 8. You would have to go back and complete floors 1-9 as well to keep your bonus of 17. I will add this up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronan Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Definitely a helpful explanation that Jagex really messed up on explaining, nice one! I (shamefully :P) kept resetting my prestige any time it said I have to and was simply repeating the highest floor over and over, thinking it was the best way to go before realising that my prestige really was dropping me down and figured out what to do after a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killmenub Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Sorry but I still don't understand :/ So if the highest floor I can do is level 10 your saying the best way to get exp is doing level 1 then 2, then 3 etc... Once I reach the highest level I will have a prestige of 10, which means if I go do level 1 I'll get exp close to the level of 10 but obviously complete it quicker? IGN: HesFearless. -Jamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torlen Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 Sorry but I still don't understand :/ So if the highest floor I can do is level 10 your saying the best way to get exp is doing level 1 then 2, then 3 etc... Once I reach the highest level I will have a prestige of 10, which means if I go do level 1 I'll get exp close to the level of 10 but obviously complete it quicker? Once you get to level 10, if that is your highest floor, reset. Your prestige will be 10. When you go back and do floors 1-10 again, you will get a 10 prestige bonus for each floor (1-10). I can give an example, but remember these xp are just rough predictions: Base xp for beating floor 1 - 50Prestige 10 bonus - 1000Average of both - 525 Base xp for beating floor 2 - 100Prestige 10 bonus - 1000Average of both - 550 .... Base xp for beating floor 9 - 600Prestige 10 bonus - 1000Average of both - 800 Understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 So...are you saying that it is best to reset at any even level because new floors unlock on the odds? Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadiansmurf Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 This is far too complicated. Why didn't jagex just simplify the skill? This prestige reset just seems like a way to keep the exp gained in the skill down. As it's not intuitive. My first guess would have been to not reset prestige. All of these complicated rules for a skill remind me of a... Mini-Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torlen Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 So...are you saying that it is best to reset at any even level because new floors unlock on the odds? At some point this no longer becomes plausible. That one extra prestige level spread over the course of 20 floors would only churn out roughly 2-4k extra xp. If you have farther than that to go to achieve your next even level, I wouldn't bother wasting time getting -50% by repeating a floor over and over. I will say that I have done this one time, because I was at floor 19 and needed 50 xp to unlock floor 20. I just took the -50% for a single floor to gain that extra prestige level. This is far too complicated. Why didn't jagex just simplify the skill? This prestige reset just seems like a way to keep the exp gained in the skill down. As it's not intuitive. My first guess would have been to not reset prestige. All of these complicated rules for a skill remind me of a... Mini-Game. How dare they add depth to a skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killmenub Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Sorry but I still don't understand :/ So if the highest floor I can do is level 10 your saying the best way to get exp is doing level 1 then 2, then 3 etc... Once I reach the highest level I will have a prestige of 10, which means if I go do level 1 I'll get exp close to the level of 10 but obviously complete it quicker? Once you get to level 10, if that is your highest floor, reset. Your prestige will be 10. When you go back and do floors 1-10 again, you will get a 10 prestige bonus for each floor (1-10). I can give an example, but remember these xp are just rough predictions: Base xp for beating floor 1 - 50Prestige 10 bonus - 1000Average of both - 525 Base xp for beating floor 2 - 100Prestige 10 bonus - 1000Average of both - 550 .... Base xp for beating floor 9 - 600Prestige 10 bonus - 1000Average of both - 800 Understand? Yup, by reset you mean leave? IGN: HesFearless. -Jamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torlen Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 Sorry but I still don't understand :/ So if the highest floor I can do is level 10 your saying the best way to get exp is doing level 1 then 2, then 3 etc... Once I reach the highest level I will have a prestige of 10, which means if I go do level 1 I'll get exp close to the level of 10 but obviously complete it quicker? Once you get to level 10, if that is your highest floor, reset. Your prestige will be 10. When you go back and do floors 1-10 again, you will get a 10 prestige bonus for each floor (1-10). I can give an example, but remember these xp are just rough predictions: Base xp for beating floor 1 - 50Prestige 10 bonus - 1000Average of both - 525 Base xp for beating floor 2 - 100Prestige 10 bonus - 1000Average of both - 550 .... Base xp for beating floor 9 - 600Prestige 10 bonus - 1000Average of both - 800 Understand? Yup, by reset you mean leave? You have to leave, then open your ring interface and hit the "reset" button at the bottom. Just make sure you have completed every floor that you can, and your current level (also on the ring interface) is larger than your previous level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sees_all1 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 This is far too complicated. Why didn't jagex just simplify the skill? This prestige reset just seems like a way to keep the exp gained in the skill down.No, its to keep the EXP gained in the skill UP without being too repetitive. 99 dungeoneering achieved, thanks to everyone that celebrated with me! ♪♪ Don't interrupt me as I struggle to complete this thoughtHave some respect for someone more forgetful than yourself ♪♪♪♪ And I'm not doneAnd I won't be till my head falls off ♪♪ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racheya Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 So would just going from 1 down to the very lowest dungeon then resetting and going back from 1 - lowest again, be decent in Experience terms with prestige? I kiiind of get it. I edit for the [Tip.It Times]. I rarely write in [My Blog]. I am an [Ex-Moderator]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torlen Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 So would just going from 1 down to the very lowest dungeon then resetting and going back from 1 - lowest again, be decent in Experience terms with prestige? I kiiind of get it. I'm sorry, I don't understand your question. If you mean just running floor 1, resetting and running it again, that would be terrible xp. A prestige level of 1 only makes your prestige bonus ~100. This is an example of me running floor 1 after resetting at 25 prestige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagerblue Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 So let me make sure I'm right on this, if you're just starting off you would want to run it something like(This is assuming floor lvl = your lvl?) Floor 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.. and then at level 5 you don't level up with the fifth floor, you reset your floor and start back over at 1 with 5th prestige, but once you level up you should keep going. So say you reset and level up on floor 3, you would still want to do floor 4 and 5 instead of skipping to 6. Am I getting this right or am I way off lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torlen Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 So let me make sure I'm right on this, if you're just starting off you would want to run it something like(This is assuming floor lvl = your lvl?) Floor 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.. and then at level 5 you don't level up with the fifth floor, you reset your floor and start back over at 1 with 5th prestige, but once you level up you should keep going. So say you reset and level up on floor 3, you would still want to do floor 4 and 5 instead of skipping to 6. Am I getting this right or am I way off lol You're getting it. You still have to do floor 4 and 5. If you skipped to 6 your current prestige will only be 4 because you only completed 4 floors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racheya Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I mean doing floor 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... ect - all the way down to the lowest floor (repeating a floor if need be to get the level) then once I'm at the final floor, reset then do it all again? I edit for the [Tip.It Times]. I rarely write in [My Blog]. I am an [Ex-Moderator]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torlen Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 I mean doing floor 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... ect - all the way down to the lowest floor (repeating a floor if need be to get the level) then once I'm at the final floor, reset then do it all again? Yep, that's it. The most important part of it all is to make sure your current progress is larger than your previous progress before you touch that reset button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beloved Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I mean doing floor 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... ect - all the way down to the lowest floor (repeating a floor if need be to get the level) then once I'm at the final floor, reset then do it all again? Yep, that's it. The most important part of it all is to make sure your current progress is larger than your previous progress before you touch that reset button.yeah some of my friends went wrong with that, once you reset you *have* to do all floors again, so make sure you do it right (or face the consequences: 200xp dungeons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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