sui_cho Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) since undead have no life to leech, enchanted onyx bolts do not work against them. but i wonder why do Guthan's set's effect and blood spells from the Ancient Magicks spellbook DO work against them? jagex should fix it Edited May 15, 2010 by sui_cho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecakoto Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Guthan's was powered by *insert lore I can't remember here.* And Blood magic is well... Magic. A wizard did it. The challenge of a mistake is not to avoid it. The challenge of a mistake is dealing with the outcome. Proud of who I am and what I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuall Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 The real question is: Magnets, how do they work? OT:Guthans set affect is called infestation. I'm guessing you can still infest and draw energy from undead creatures. give F2P a penny and they want a dime; give P2P a quarter, they want 100,000 dollars, your car, house, boat, social security number, credit card numbers, drivers license, clothes on your back and everything you ever owned or interacted with ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassynder Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 They must have some kind of life-y energy to be animated, so I guess it draws off of thatIf zombies/skeletons have no life, how come we can kill them period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Skeleton faintedthat was your last pokemonyou black out ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbu Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Maybe it's because they are both Mahjarrat related. Azzanadra teaches you the anciet magiks and Sliske is thought to have given the Barrows brothers their powers. I'm also pretty sure that the Mahjarrat are the original necromancers according to the current lore. Dug up Pharaoh Queen Senliten's version of necromancing: "If certain parts of the separation (=mummification) process are performed out of order or upon a living victim, the victim will be caught in a state between living and death. They may also be bound to the will of a person who controls certain parts of the ritual or physical portions of the one so afflicted." So I guess the magick and the barrows effect just go against the part that is living while the onyx (e)'s go against the part that is dead ... or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalafai Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 The real question is: Magnets, how do they work? OT:Guthans set affect is called infestation. I'm guessing you can still infest and draw energy from undead creatures.This has been answred in a letter! You see, a magnet works by attracting whatever your undead chicken thinks is magnetic, because it works by magic. Thus Guthans works by sapping what you think is health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profins Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Don't question it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sui_cho Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 The real question is: Magnets, how do they work? OT:Guthans set affect is called infestation. I'm guessing you can still infest and draw energy from undead creatures.This has been answred in a letter! You see, a magnet works by attracting whatever your undead chicken thinks is magnetic, because it works by magic. Thus Guthans works by sapping what you think is health.what about blood magicks and enchanted onyx bolts :?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuall Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 The real question is: Magnets, how do they work? OT:Guthans set affect is called infestation. I'm guessing you can still infest and draw energy from undead creatures.This has been answred in a letter! You see, a magnet works by attracting whatever your undead chicken thinks is magnetic, because it works by magic. Thus Guthans works by sapping what you think is health.what about blood magicks and enchanted onyx bolts :?: Wow, are you really still going on about this? Erm, let me think. Blood magicks affect your blood, not your enemies.... That's how you get healed. And onyx bolts can't affect undead for they have no life to leach. give F2P a penny and they want a dime; give P2P a quarter, they want 100,000 dollars, your car, house, boat, social security number, credit card numbers, drivers license, clothes on your back and everything you ever owned or interacted with ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kata_Phfract__the_slayer Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 maybe undead do have some "life" (in some form or another) to leach, its just that the bolts, being just a small gem tip, doesent have the power to drain that life.but a full blown armour set or powerfull magic blasts have enough of whateva is needed to drain the life from them. that or guthins and blood spels does not steal life, but heals you and hurting the oponent at the same time. (would thrashing something to bits with a spear heal you any other way?) I'm a Brony and proud of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjon123 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Blood magicks affect your blood, not your enemies.... That's how you get healed.then why does it work on scellatons? 1,000 F2P Total Level Reached 10/8/10 ! [hide=Guides]Magic & Summoning Profit Spreadsheets! *UPDATES EVERY HOUR* (includes: High alch, Superheat, and Enchanting)4 BETTER alternatives to flesh crawlers[/hide] WOT WOT! ☉.☉☂ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Blood magicks affect your blood, not your enemies.... That's how you get healed.then why does it work on scellatons? DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blutters Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 If you use Blood spells or even any magic in full Guthan's can it trigger the set effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeNut Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 heres how i see it:we're adventurers, not mystical scholars who've devoted their life to the study of magic and all its intricacies we're given a spellbook that tells us how to preform specific spells, we're not exactly the brightest crayons in the box. i see it as at the beginning of the game we've effectively memorized the whole spellbook, i see us as just going through the motions without knowing whats going on under the hood, and as adventurers thats good enough for us( i can use magic, YAY!!!!), because we ,as I see it, took the time to memorize the whole thing we weren't exactly given a set of super complicated, intricate spells, inferring that perhaps the enchant onyx bolt spell is equally simple, mearly creating a channel for their life force to flow into us. on the other hand ancient magiks is infused into our memory so the castings can be far more complicated because we're not going through all the motions of memoriizng it, with it instead being written directly to our brain, guthans is in the same boat because its not some novice jack of all trades creating the enchantment from a blueprint for everyday use but a master/grandmaster/god? of mythical arts custom crafting an enchantment for a specific purpose (war?), this would allow for far more complicated enchantments/spells. perhaps where onyx bolts just create a channel from their life force to yours, blood spells and guthans may simply grab whatever energy is there, be it their soul, lifeforce, or whatever energy field is keeping them animated, and convert it to a type of regenerative energy that is then infused into our blood which ships it out to the damaged portions of our body like the good transportation network it is =================================================================================================== so to sum it up:guthans was made by something with magical experties and as such as a far more powerful and complex enchantment than we could manageancient magiks were infused into our mind and as such can be far more complex since we didn't have to learn them or understand themonyx bolts are made by ... US! we learned the enchantment and it has to be simple to be readily usable by a people out to explore and help( or harm as the case may be) the world for fame(infamy) and/or rewards(loot) thats my interpretation of it anyway |^_^| if the world didn't suck, we'd all fly off into spacenever have a battle of wits with a fool, they'll only bring you down to their level and beat you with expierience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myu Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Blood magicks affect your blood, not your enemies.... That's how you get healed.then why does it work on scellatons? The blood is produced in the bone marrow? :twss: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjon123 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Blood magicks affect your blood, not your enemies.... That's how you get healed.then why does it work on scellatons? The blood is produced in the bone marrow? :twss: theres also:ghostsLiving rocksTanglefootszygomitesanimated axes, spades, ect.shadowsIce warriorselementals shall I go on? 1,000 F2P Total Level Reached 10/8/10 ! [hide=Guides]Magic & Summoning Profit Spreadsheets! *UPDATES EVERY HOUR* (includes: High alch, Superheat, and Enchanting)4 BETTER alternatives to flesh crawlers[/hide] WOT WOT! ☉.☉☂ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuall Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Blood magicks affect your blood, not your enemies.... That's how you get healed.then why does it work on scellatons? The blood is produced in the bone marrow? :twss: theres also:ghostsLiving rocksTanglefootszygomitesanimated axes, spades, ect.shadowsIce warriorselementals shall I go on? I swear you haven't read my original post (despite it being quoted and put in bold by other people). Blood spells work on YOUR blood. Not your opponents. give F2P a penny and they want a dime; give P2P a quarter, they want 100,000 dollars, your car, house, boat, social security number, credit card numbers, drivers license, clothes on your back and everything you ever owned or interacted with ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalafai Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 And Guthans is the the Zerg infestation re-enforcing your body as you serve them. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjon123 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I swear you haven't read my original post (despite it being quoted and put in bold by other people). Blood spells work on YOUR blood. Not your opponents. oops. haha I really misread that one didnt I :D 1,000 F2P Total Level Reached 10/8/10 ! [hide=Guides]Magic & Summoning Profit Spreadsheets! *UPDATES EVERY HOUR* (includes: High alch, Superheat, and Enchanting)4 BETTER alternatives to flesh crawlers[/hide] WOT WOT! ☉.☉☂ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Casting blood spells means you are a wizarda wizard gave Guthan's armor the power it has, and thus you use the armor However, some assembly line worker made the onyx (e) bolts. They are not a wizard Thus, I've come to the conclusion that if you are a wizard, or are using something created by a wizard, the universe will fold to fill in the plot holes tl'dr, wizards are the reason the sun rises Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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