09-Jun-2010 - Castle Wars Kill Streak Competition

[gypsyeater]

I wonder if a guy in that best cw armor and a chaotic rapier would be in the running. Because I've seen someone with that and they just slaughter.

[Danqazmlp]

Yes is my wisdom of being in top CW clans for the past 5 years, creating one, council in two different #1 CW clans, being a long time player of the mini-game I can say that I know a lot more than 'Jack'.

 

In terms of Pking in cw no, it won't take much more than gear skills and levels, that is what I'm saying. The regular cw players who would appreciate signed art are not going to be able to compete with players coming in just to win the membership. There are very few die hard castle wars players who have the money to compete for this.

 

However, if it was on score streaks instead of kill streaks, then those who play Cw and have experience in it would have a much better chance and would not be based as much on who has the most money and higher levels.

[stonewall337]

Yes is my wisdom of being in top CW clans for the past 5 years, creating one, council in two different #1 CW clans, being a long time player of the mini-game I can say that I know a lot more than 'Jack'.

 

In terms of Pking in cw no, it won't take much more than gear skills and levels, that is what I'm saying. The regular cw players who would appreciate signed art are not going to be able to compete with players coming in just to win the membership. There are very few die hard castle wars players who have the money to compete for this.

 

However, if it was on score streaks instead of kill streaks, then those who play Cw and have experience in it would have a much better chance and would not be based as much on who has the most money and higher levels.

 

 

No, you can't claim that the only ones who compete hardcore/pro/whatever you want to call it only want the membership, and don't care about the signed art. That's my point. You completely ignored my main point, and built yourself a straw man.

[Danqazmlp]

I'm sorry but that was only one line in your post, hardly the main point. I do not even understand what you are trying to say. Are you saying that these guys with 1b+ banks who are going to be bringing divines, curses and zuriels into Cw over the weekend are doing it to get a piece of artwork? Have you not met the Runescape community? The artwork will be nothing more than a second thought to the majority of the people attempting to win, which is an informed observation formed over years of playing this game and seeing how the community acts. They won't throw the artwork away, but it will not be the main thing they are aiming for.

 

However, MY main point is that why host an event around PK in a minigame that requires very little of it to play successfully? It would make more sense in my opinion to base the competition on scores made over the weekend instead of kills if hosting an event in castle wars, as scoring is the major aspect of the mini-game. It would make much more sense to me if we were going to have an event based around purely killing, why not host it at Clan wars or in a PVP world and not a game which involves much much more than just the killing.

[anonymouse_]

I'm sorry but that was only one line in your post, hardly the main point. I do not even understand what you are trying to say. Are you saying that these guys with 1b+ banks who are going to be bringing divines, curses and zuriels into Cw over the weekend are doing it to get a piece of artwork? Have you not met the Runescape community? The artwork will be nothing more than a second thought to the majority of the people attempting to win, which is an informed observation formed over years of playing this game and seeing how the community acts. They won't throw the artwork away, but it will not be the main thing they are aiming for.

 

However, MY main point is that why host an event around PK in a minigame that requires very little of it to play successfully? It would make more sense in my opinion to base the competition on scores made over the weekend instead of kills if hosting an event in castle wars, as scoring is the major aspect of the mini-game. It would make much more sense to me if we were going to have an event based around purely killing, why not host it at Clan wars or in a PVP world and not a game which involves much much more than just the killing.

Because Jagex is trying to appeal to the majority. They clearly need more $$

[Tim]

How is this remotely fair? Zuriels staff and robes and a divine/elysian will win. These are the damn price manipulators too. So JaGeX is going to end up giving roughly 60$ for a price manipulator to stay in the game. Nice damn logic fail. They NEVER think. If any of you think anyone can win this, they can't. Not a chance in hell. Whoever can afford all of the amazing gear and thousands of miasmic barrages is going to win.

 

I witnessed a game about a week ago and ONE person in tank mage gear such as veracs/ahrims was able to stop the entire defending part of the team inside their own base. That's like 30+ people he can tank by himself. This was with soul split and blood barrage and only casting miasmic barrage once. Considering that there's even better gear out there? And I'm willing to bet these people won't do it alone - they will do it with a friend or multiple friends.

 

Now JaGeX is giving prizes to price manipulators how [bleep]ing awesome. :thumbdown:

Sums my opinions up quite well.

[Danqazmlp]

 

Because Jagex is trying to appeal to the majority. They clearly need more $$

 

Surely basing it on something which will require masses of money, much more than the majority have to win is not appealing to the majority. Appealing to the majority would be basing it off something in which levels and gear have much less effect on, such as what i have suggested which is overall scores over the weekend. Gear and levels still have an effect, but much less, as a person in black dragon-hide with skill can do as good as an average person with Armadyl.

[howbadisbad]

The RSOF has legit arguments, which means this officially fails.

 

Some lolquotes:

 

How dare you. You ruin CW then have the cheek to run some geek contest "cw is better than ever" GTFO. Play your own game. If you played the content you made, you can't seriously enjoy it?

 

What happened to all the fantasy quests, delving deep into the forest of Isfadar with nothing but a tooth pick, battling dragons with our bare hands etc.

 

What happened to actually telling us what you are doing behind the scenes week in and week out.

 

Why don't you ever POLL things not just holiday rewards? Need an example? how about "hey we need a new name for a skill, it involves a stealing creation element and offers new rewards like a minigame..oops i mean activity"

 

a) Dungeoneering

B) Dungeonsnooring

c) Dungeonwhothehellcameupwiththis

 

Isn't the whole point of castlewars to catch the opponents flag? or am i missing somthing?

 

Wow yeah what a great competition idea, lets all go to castle wars, a flag based game and see who can kill the most people. If you actually go to castle wars just to kill people you are a moron and need to go back to clan wars or something.

 

Honestly what a facepalm of an idea.

[Star_Fox]

Bleah. Stupid.

 

my thoughts exactly.

[howbadisbad]

Bleah. Stupid.

 

my thoughts exactly.

 

Lets take a capture the flag minigame and make a competition about who can get the most kill in it! Everyone will love it!

 

Does anyone belive me now when I said Jagex sucks at making updates?

 

WOW! Jagex 3 fails in one day didnt think that was possible, okay so im friends with the rank 1 castle wars player and shes in a clan of the top 100 cw players and they all got mage and divines and ss's etc so yh so ur sayin low lvls can win jagex? nice fail well it wont effect me im leavin for vacation on friday btw how hard is it for a lvl 130 with overloads and ags and spec restore potions to win my friend got specced a 85with ags and shes a 131 with 99def so gf jagex another fail i applaud u

 

EDIT: Another good update ruined

 

Lol I do love the epic grammar in RSOF though.

[Aneron]

I agree that basing it off of killing was a strange idea, but whatever. Killing is a large part of the game, after all. Probably the largest.

 

I don't understand Danq's point that apparently only true CW players enjoy signed art though. ("The regular cw players who would appreciate signed art are not going to be able to compete with players coming in just to win the membership.") What about the poor non CWers who want art who will be hopelessly pitted against CW players who are in it for the membership? Of course a CW player getting CW art would be appropriate, but so is a runescape player getting runescape art.

 

Also, everyone is definitely overestimating magic. It's effective in regular games because your average participant doesn't care much about dying or getting kills, he's doing CW for the fun. This weekend, I anticipate that the majority of people playing in CW worlds will have different interests in mind, and therefore will not stand around mindlessly to be blood barraged. Magic is effective for not dying, but you really can't KO anything that cares with just magic unless that anything is out of food.

[howbadisbad]

 

Also, everyone is definitely overestimating magic. It's effective in regular games because your average participant doesn't care much about dying or getting kills, he's doing CW for the fun. This weekend, I anticipate that the majority of people playing in CW worlds will have different interests in mind, and therefore will not stand around mindlessly to be blood barraged. Magic is effective for not dying, but you really can't KO anything that cares with just magic unless that anything is out of food.

 

I love how wrong you are :thumbup:

 

L2 Overload/arcanestream/sol/chaoticstaff

 

Chaotic staff = 50+ with barrage ftw?

SOL is like 48 max or something

 

Obviously you are underestimating magic.

 

I am trying to figure out what the heck is going on at Jagex. Is it me or has there been a serious surge in their attempt to draw in more memebers through badly thought out updates to RS? I remember when I joined it was by word of mouth. It was the basics of the game that drew me in and kept me returning. I have to admit that the last couple of years have really made that more difficult. I get some notion of some sense of urgency, maybe even desperation that Jagex is feeling. The strong push for "community" and "group" activities has been a new and serious theme as of late, why? Just as a note...they still have not fixed the solo log out issue with dung. I know and most people that have been out in the workforce know that Jagex is only worried about that bottom line...please stop your slide of hand in-game marketing and let the game sell itself like it used to.

 

I will avoid cws purposely and just from the experience I had when it was updated, all it was, was a slaughter house from the newly added and updated weaponry and may not go again. Oh yeah, just another spot for magers to rule. Please come up with a new idea.

 

:)

[Danqazmlp]

 

I don't understand Danq's point that apparently only true CW players enjoy signed art though. ("The regular cw players who would appreciate signed art are not going to be able to compete with players coming in just to win the membership.") What about the poor non CWers who want art who will be hopelessly pitted against CW players who are in it for the membership? Of course a CW player getting CW art would be appropriate, but so is a runescape player getting runescape art.

 

 

I agree, my main worry is that a player in manipulation clan x is going to come along with the best gear possible just to get the membership and will not want the signed art at all. I have no problem with people getting the art I would rather it wasn't tied to the membership in which people will generally prefer. I also think it would be nice to at least have the event which is in Cw be aimed at Cw players. We have art competitions for artists, we have machinima competitions for video artists, we have pking tournaments for pkers, we have a cw event for, oh wait, pkers again...

[Obtaurian]

 

Also, everyone is definitely overestimating magic. It's effective in regular games because your average participant doesn't care much about dying or getting kills, he's doing CW for the fun. This weekend, I anticipate that the majority of people playing in CW worlds will have different interests in mind, and therefore will not stand around mindlessly to be blood barraged. Magic is effective for not dying, but you really can't KO anything that cares with just magic unless that anything is out of food.

 

I love how wrong you are :thumbup:

 

L2 Overload/arcanestream/sol/chaoticstaff

 

Chaotic staff = 50+ with barrage ftw?

SOL is like 48 max or something

 

Obviously you are underestimating magic.

 

I actually agree with Bobthesock. There will be tons of mages in maxed gear, but there's also going to be tons of people who just want to piss those mages off. No mage can withstand a barrage of dragon arrows and seercull shots, of which there will be a LOT of. I know I'm going to be doing that.

[howbadisbad]

 

Also, everyone is definitely overestimating magic. It's effective in regular games because your average participant doesn't care much about dying or getting kills, he's doing CW for the fun. This weekend, I anticipate that the majority of people playing in CW worlds will have different interests in mind, and therefore will not stand around mindlessly to be blood barraged. Magic is effective for not dying, but you really can't KO anything that cares with just magic unless that anything is out of food.

 

I love how wrong you are :thumbup:

 

L2 Overload/arcanestream/sol/chaoticstaff

 

Chaotic staff = 50+ with barrage ftw?

SOL is like 48 max or something

 

Obviously you are underestimating magic.

 

I actually agree with Bobthesock. There will be tons of mages in maxed gear, but there's also going to be tons of people who just want to piss those mages off. No mage can withstand a barrage of dragon arrows and seercull shots, of which there will be a LOT of. I know I'm going to be doing that.

 

I heard people will prepare for that

Seercull is fail when you can restore pot or have on tank mage gear.

Dbows... When you manage to get multiple people to spec at the same time maybe. But if not the mage will just heal the damage.

 

The reward WILL go to a mage. No other combat type has the potential for large amounts of kills like magic.

[Obtaurian]

 

Also, everyone is definitely overestimating magic. It's effective in regular games because your average participant doesn't care much about dying or getting kills, he's doing CW for the fun. This weekend, I anticipate that the majority of people playing in CW worlds will have different interests in mind, and therefore will not stand around mindlessly to be blood barraged. Magic is effective for not dying, but you really can't KO anything that cares with just magic unless that anything is out of food.

 

I love how wrong you are :thumbup:

 

L2 Overload/arcanestream/sol/chaoticstaff

 

Chaotic staff = 50+ with barrage ftw?

SOL is like 48 max or something

 

Obviously you are underestimating magic.

 

I actually agree with Bobthesock. There will be tons of mages in maxed gear, but there's also going to be tons of people who just want to piss those mages off. No mage can withstand a barrage of dragon arrows and seercull shots, of which there will be a LOT of. I know I'm going to be doing that.

 

I heard people will prepare for that

Seercull is fail when you can restore pot or have on tank mage gear.

Dbows... When you manage to get multiple people to spec at the same time maybe. But if not the mage will just heal the damage.

 

The reward WILL go to a mage. No other combat type has the potential for large amounts of kills like magic.

 

I don't think it's going to be that simple.

[Danqazmlp]

I think smart use of the catapults and ballista's could challenge mages.

[howbadisbad]

I think smart use of the catapults and ballista's could challenge mages.

 

How many people do you think are going to run into catapult range? Its been out long enough so people know about it and go underground.

 

I sense barraging parties underground :D

[Patr1ck]

I hope no one gets a nuke this weekend. :twss: This turns CW officially into Campfest 2010, much like Mw2.

[Aneron]

 

Also, everyone is definitely overestimating magic. It's effective in regular games because your average participant doesn't care much about dying or getting kills, he's doing CW for the fun. This weekend, I anticipate that the majority of people playing in CW worlds will have different interests in mind, and therefore will not stand around mindlessly to be blood barraged. Magic is effective for not dying, but you really can't KO anything that cares with just magic unless that anything is out of food.

 

I love how wrong you are :thumbup:

 

L2 Overload/arcanestream/sol/chaoticstaff

 

Chaotic staff = 50+ with barrage ftw?

SOL is like 48 max or something

 

Obviously you are underestimating magic.

 

I actually agree with Bobthesock. There will be tons of mages in maxed gear, but there's also going to be tons of people who just want to piss those mages off. No mage can withstand a barrage of dragon arrows and seercull shots, of which there will be a LOT of. I know I'm going to be doing that.

 

I heard people will prepare for that

Seercull is fail when you can restore pot or have on tank mage gear.

Dbows... When you manage to get multiple people to spec at the same time maybe. But if not the mage will just heal the damage.

 

The reward WILL go to a mage. No other combat type has the potential for large amounts of kills like magic.

 

Magic has the potential, but only if you get a clan of sheep to stand around and let you barrage them. Let's say our mage will be hitting 50s max. That means 25s average, and 13s when you take into account the fact that everyone in the area will be praying against magic. that is assuming that every attack hits, which it will not because most people will also bring magic defense. omg the power is overwhelming. :thumbup:

 

my point is that the current strategy of finding a huge crowd and barraging it ad infinitum isn't going to work. the people who get hundreds of kills currently just camp at the flags and barrage the massive crowds gathered there to try and kill them, which is obviously not going to happen this weekend because everyone will be going for kills, and therefore will not bother with tank mages who are decidedly the hardest thing ever to kill. the magic strategy requires intensely concentrated crowds, whereas this will probably be a massive, spread out brawl.

[Squisher_33]

anyone got some pics of 100+ streaks yet?

 

are they gonna post what the leader is or have pics of the leader

 

sounds dumb to just have people blindly kiling withuot knowing the mark to beat

[howbadisbad]

 

Also, everyone is definitely overestimating magic. It's effective in regular games because your average participant doesn't care much about dying or getting kills, he's doing CW for the fun. This weekend, I anticipate that the majority of people playing in CW worlds will have different interests in mind, and therefore will not stand around mindlessly to be blood barraged. Magic is effective for not dying, but you really can't KO anything that cares with just magic unless that anything is out of food.

 

I love how wrong you are :thumbup:

 

L2 Overload/arcanestream/sol/chaoticstaff

 

Chaotic staff = 50+ with barrage ftw?

SOL is like 48 max or something

 

Obviously you are underestimating magic.

 

I actually agree with Bobthesock. There will be tons of mages in maxed gear, but there's also going to be tons of people who just want to piss those mages off. No mage can withstand a barrage of dragon arrows and seercull shots, of which there will be a LOT of. I know I'm going to be doing that.

 

I heard people will prepare for that

Seercull is fail when you can restore pot or have on tank mage gear.

Dbows... When you manage to get multiple people to spec at the same time maybe. But if not the mage will just heal the damage.

 

The reward WILL go to a mage. No other combat type has the potential for large amounts of kills like magic.

 

Magic has the potential, but only if you get a clan of sheep to stand around and let you barrage them. Let's say our mage will be hitting 50s max. That means 25s average, and 13s when you take into account the fact that everyone in the area will be praying against magic. that is assuming that every attack hits, which it will not because most people will also bring magic defense. omg the power is overwhelming. :thumbup:

 

my point is that the current strategy of finding a huge crowd and barraging it ad infinitum isn't going to work. the people who get hundreds of kills currently just camp at the flags and barrage the massive crowds gathered there to try and kill them, which is obviously not going to happen this weekend because everyone will be going for kills, and therefore will not bother with tank mages who are decidedly the hardest thing ever to kill. the magic strategy requires intensely concentrated crowds, whereas this will probably be a massive, spread out brawl.

 

Lol people protecting magic has never affected my magic that much in cws.

 

And you can gather tons of people into a barrage pile if you ice barrage the doorway then switch to blood/mismic.

[Tecmaster]

I'll have to go check this out, not that I have any chance of winning though.

[Obtaurian]

It would be pretty funny if a guy with a CR and profound CW armor won the contest by running around under the radar.

[Jehosaphat]

How the hell are they gonna keep track of this? Just keep tabs on the guys with expensive gear, or what?