mikehild Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I'm wondering if I can use autohotkey (a program that remaps keys and mouse movements to other keys) to accomplish tasks that mousekeys would normally be used for. It does the exact same thing as using mousekeys. Nothing would be automated as the name 'auto'hotkey might suggest. I would gain no advantage over anyone using standard mousekeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grogthurk Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Probably not. It can be used as a macro with little difficulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Remapping keys is completely legal. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Yeah, I don't see how remapping keys could be considered illegal. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I've been looking for a program that allows you to remap keys because there is no rules that say you can't, idealy one that allows you to map multiple keys to so the same thing. So I guess it should be okay, as long as a program doesn't have to run in the background it should be undetectable. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd_Varrow Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Jagex has stated that their rule is it's ok as long as one keystroke = one click. As long as you follow that rule, it should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikehild Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 Sounds good! It's kinda hard to use mousekeys when you don't have a numpad and have to work on a condensed laptop keyboard. I've been looking for a program that allows you to remap keys because there is no rules that say you can't, idealy one that allows you to map multiple keys to so the same thing. So I guess it should be okay, as long as a program doesn't have to run in the background it should be undetectable. Check out autohotkey. I use it whenever I need to remap keys for games or to make handy shortcuts for everyday use. As far as I know, you can map multiple keys to do the same thing (ex: a=x, b=x, c=x; so when you hit any of a, b, or c, you'll get x instead). It would be a violation of the rules though if you were to cause more than one action for one keystroke though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzi0espil Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 100% legal i guess!! i dont find any wrong in this ! because its common use and jagex didnt announce anything bad about this?! then why should they ban us on thing they didnt warn us about?! or am i wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingMerchant Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 It's Perfectly legal. Check out the rules, I'm pretty sure it explains it all there. JOIN THERE TO MERCHANT YOUR BUTS OFF!. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordkafei Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Remapping keys may be legal, but you said: ... autohotkey (a program that remaps keys and mouse movements to other keys) ... which looks damned near like you could stack a bunch of clicks and movements onto your 1 key. I'd be wary. PvP is not for meIn the 3rd Year of the BoycottReal-world money saved since FT/W: Hundreds of DollarsReal-world time saved since FT/W: Thousands of Hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basmans Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Jagex has stated that their rule is it's ok as long as one keystroke = one click. As long as you follow that rule, it should be good. What about the + sign with mousekeys? That's a double click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Jagex has stated that their rule is it's ok as long as one keystroke = one click. As long as you follow that rule, it should be good. What about the + sign with mousekeys? That's a double click. Exactly. The rules are far too vague, a Jmod really needs to make a detailed post about what exactly is fine, and what's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I think autohotkey CAN be illegal but CAN be legal. If you simply say setup 28 hot keys each of whihc right clicks 1 inventory spot and another key tht moves the mouse relative to current location and left clicks to be used for dropping. It'd be ok because its 1 keystroke per move/click so its still you doing it. However with autohotkey you can make a script that you could press 1 key and it wuld systematically moved the mouse and click to drop a whole invent in 1 press; that would be macroing. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smapla Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I'm wondering if I can use autohotkey (a program that remaps keys and mouse movements to other keys) to accomplish tasks that mousekeys would normally be used for. It does the exact same thing as using mousekeys. Nothing would be automated as the name 'auto'hotkey might suggest. I would gain no advantage over anyone using standard mousekeys. what exactly are you trying to do? why do you need autohotkey if you can already do it with mousekeys? if you can figure out exactly what you want to use autohotkey for as opposed to mousekeys, then we can figure out if it's legal or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsofthelord Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I'm wondering if I can use autohotkey (a program that remaps keys and mouse movements to other keys) to accomplish tasks that mousekeys would normally be used for. It does the exact same thing as using mousekeys. Nothing would be automated as the name 'auto'hotkey might suggest. I would gain no advantage over anyone using standard mousekeys. what exactly are you trying to do? why do you need autohotkey if you can already do it with mousekeys? if you can figure out exactly what you want to use autohotkey for as opposed to mousekeys, then we can figure out if it's legal or not Op already said they were using a condensed laptop, so its a real pain to use mouse keys. If you are really unsure and dont want to risk getting banned, they do make number pads that are external just like a mouse. Not sure how hard they are to find are what the cost might be, but they plug in just a mouse and should work for mouse keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grogthurk Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I'm surprised they'd allow autohotkey. If its a program that can be macro'd, why allow it in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 As long as you make one input that does only one output (one button does one click, and nothing else), it's legal. Once you start getting multiple actions per button, it's illegal. ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 It's not a matter of what is allowed and what is not allowed, it's a matter of what gets caught. If you start using AHK to write actual scripts / mouse movements, you'll get detected for suspiciously consistent mouse movements. This will get you banned. If you use AHK to remap keys, Jagex cannot tell. I used AHK with my gaming mouse on RS to map the F keys for a couple years and nothing happened. Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myweponsg00d Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Someone I know (erm :???: ...) got a tempy ban for AHK. But he was using the program for scripts that would definitely replace a lot of work. If you are using it to gain the same funtionality as mousekeys, then you wont have a problem. Need assistance in any of these skills? PM me in game, my private chat is always ON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzi0espil Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 he really got a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smapla Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 remapping keys is not something that jagex should be able to detect, and they should have no problem with it. some people have broken keyboards or obscure keyboard layouts that really force them to remap keys. that being said, make sure all you're doing is remapping keys. on a side note, i play on a laptop that doesn't have a numpad, yet comfortably use mousekeys + stickykeys. i'm curious as to how your keyboard has its numpad integrated into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 So does anyone know where to find scripts or how to write them effectively. I'm looking for one that would let me make say QWERTY be: Leftclick, move right x distance, left click, leftclick, move left x distance, leftclick. EDIT: I guess it would be more along the lines of remapping the keys to those actions. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 http://super-mousekeys.com/ run by a player mod evidently, who has been in conversation with some J mods about the legality of his software, and has made changes accordingly. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Only problem with supermousekeys is that you need to get points and hook it up to your FB account. Which sounds like a huge pain. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Only problem with supermousekeys is that you need to get points and hook it up to your FB account. Which sounds like a huge pain.I lol'd at that. Wonder what he wants with 12 year old male's facebooks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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