I was wondering if anyone else was having the horrible results I have been having recently with the scroll of life. Back before the new Dunge floors I was getting 5-6 seeds back per 50 seeds all the time(10%) now I think I get about 5-6 back from every 200 seeds if I am lucky. I think they changed the % chance of getting a seed back and it really blows because now the thing is basically useless, out of the 50 torstol seeds I just bought I got no seeds back after farming all 50, gf jamflex. :angry:

should this be a rant?

 

and this is not good as i was planning to buy it. im gonna watch this thread to find out

I noticed this as well, I used to get a seed back every time I did a farm run but now... I usually get a seed back every 5 runs

actually I haven't recieved a seed since 2 updates back already..

I'm tempting to file a bug report (used over 100 avantoe seeds), more people experience this? = It should be 1 out of 10 patches, thus on average every other run a seed!

A 5 % estimate doesn't mean that you will get it every 20th patch, it is simply a, well, estimate, and you can be unlucky and go below the 5 %.

It's just like monster drops. You're not guaranteed to get a whip EVERY 450TH KILL, it's simply a chance of 1/450 that can occur anytime.

 

What you're experiencing is probably a seed "dry streak". 10% is a lot smaller than it seems, you know.

It's just like monster drops. You're not guaranteed to get a whip EVERY 450TH KILL, it's simply a chance of 1/450 that can occur anytime.

 

What you're experiencing is probably a seed "dry streak". 10% is a lot smaller than it seems, you know.

The chance that in 100 seeds I'm not gaining any seed back as:

 

0.9^99 = 0.00030 or: 0.030% chance..

It's highly unlikely that with this many people complaining that it's just bad luck....

Personally havent noticed a difference and i do quite a lot of herb runs

I had just bought my scroll about two weeks ago and I was very dissapointed in it. I've now planted approximatly 300 seeds and only seen 8 come back to me. I was hoping it would be a little better then that.

Is it possible Jagex nerfed it?

Is it possible Jagex nerfed it?

anything's possible and borderline impossible to prove without jagex proof, but 9 times out of 10, these posts are people being paranoid

anything's possible and borderline impossible to prove without jagex proof, but 9 times out of 10, these posts are people being paranoid

 

^ This.

 

When it first came out, the scroll of life was the first thing I bought. Then all of a sudden, they had an update and I thought for the longest time my scroll of life was bugged. I thought this because I died, and I thought when you die you lose the scroll of life ability and it wasn't a permanent effect haha. I stopped getting seeds back for like 100 runs. But later the seeds came back every run, sometimes 2 per run. So all in all, you are being paranoid :smile:

It's just like monster drops. You're not guaranteed to get a whip EVERY 450TH KILL, it's simply a chance of 1/450 that can occur anytime.

 

What you're experiencing is probably a seed "dry streak". 10% is a lot smaller than it seems, you know.

The chance that in 100 seeds I'm not gaining any seed back as:

 

0.9^99 = 0.00030 or: 0.030% chance..

 

Shouldn't it be 0.9^100 which is even lower lol. You are unlucky in that part.

It's just like monster drops. You're not guaranteed to get a whip EVERY 450TH KILL, it's simply a chance of 1/450 that can occur anytime.

 

What you're experiencing is probably a seed "dry streak". 10% is a lot smaller than it seems, you know.

The chance that in 100 seeds I'm not gaining any seed back as:

 

0.9^99 = 0.00030 or: 0.030% chance..

 

Shouldn't it be 0.9^100 which is even lower lol. You are unlucky in that part.

nah for easiness sake, let's look at the streak of 2:

chance that 1 "fails" following on an already failed herb means is only "0.9": you assume the first herb is already failed.

 

The chance that a streak of 100 fails occurs is thus 0.9^99 (streak starts at a failed herb). The chance that the next hunderd would fail is: 0.99^100.

nah for easiness sake, let's look at the streak of 2:

chance that 1 "fails" following on an already failed herb means is only "0.9": you assume the first herb is already failed.

 

The chance that a streak of 100 fails occurs is thus 0.9^99 (streak starts at a failed herb). The chance that the next hunderd would fail is: 0.99^100.

It still needs to happen 100 times in a row? I don't see why you would start on the second herb. That's only a 99 streak. By the same logic you could just do 0.9^50 and "assume the first 50 already failed".

 

 

Anyway, for me the scroll of life is working exactly the way it always has. I'm still getting more than 10% of my seeds back. Yes more than 10%. It'll even out eventually but it's not happening yet...