Dungeoneering Again

[The_Mather1]

In this game, is aura related to karma? And is karma again related to "luck"?

[Seraphi]

Nah, Aura is basically just general magical presense and manipulation of said presense.

[The_Mather1]

So it has nothing to do with IRL "aura"?

[Nexaduro]

Yeah... I should probably get some weaponry or armour sometime soon. I want a sword named Sturmflut. :)

[Icuownage]

I'll probably craft a glass, perhaps obsidian blade, but I wont make it all obsidian. I'll probably make it, silver with a lucite alloy and an obsidian blade.

[The_Mather1]

I might craft a sword from baerl spine with a thigh bone hilt and leather grip and sheeth.

[Jehosaphat]

I already have my bad-ass spear. I WAS going to melt the arrowhead down, make a sword out of the metal, glass, and obsidian, set the star sapphire in the obsidian hilt, then imbue the whole dang thing with fire magic, then attach more fire-imbued gems and stuff to it. But then the ground started shaking when I tried melting it, and I figured it'd probably be better to just keep it as it was.

[Seraphi]

From a purely metagame perspective... Is it wise to put so much effort into a might-be-or-might-not-be-plot-sensetive item?

[Jehosaphat]

From a purely metagame perspective... Is it wise to put so much effort into a might-be-or-might-not-be-plot-sensetive item?

"So much effort"? So far, all I've done is put a crapton of obsidian and glass on it, and imbued it with fire. Oh, and sort of glass-welded it to my wrist, but that doesn't count. Granted, it took me a whole session, but that's because I wanted to be more detailed than "I put it on the staff and then decorate the thing to high hell."

[Icuownage]

Still saying making the entire thing practically obsidian might not be a good idea, it's fragile!

[Retech]

I was wondering if there is ever a chance to learn how to make permanent ice (or something with ice magic) for negigible cost, seeing as fire magic seems to be able to make raw materials quite easily at the moment (or rather, make raw materials out of an infinite supply of sand on the beach).

 

Also wondering if we'll ever happen to meet other player characters through events (preferably not as opponents though, since the Dungeoneering system doesn't seem to work too well with opposing players, especially with the IRC).

[Icuownage]

If I were to ever kill anyone, I'd pm it.

[Retech]

The thing is that it's hard for a moderator to do PVP actions, because doing all of them in order generally doesn't work. There's nothing like parrying either, because otherwise we'd have to move so slowly for each action.

 

It would get screwy. :S

[Seraphi]

If it ever comes to player vs. player, I'll take the actions of all the combatants and then roll from there to work out a scenario... In fact, doing that for NPC enemies would probably be a good idea as well...

 

Retech, yes, I have mentioned it before... Not like I'm going to give it out very easily though.

 

And fire magic being able to make raw materials is logical, since fire is sort of an industrial thing. Glass can be created using fire, but you can't smelt ore using the power of cold.

[Retech]

It doesn't seem very balanced though.

 

I mean, fire has higher damage output and seems to be able to make raw materials easier. I was under the impression that fire was more fluid (and versatile in its fluidness) and ice was more solid (and, solid things are usually nice).

 

Also a random thought, but how does magical stamina work? Like, does having higher level magic make each spell easier or does it give you more magical stamina?

[Jehosaphat]

Still saying making the entire thing practically obsidian might not be a good idea, it's fragile!

It's mostly glass, and the glass was toughened via fire magic to wood strength.

[Seraphi]

Magical stamina is the same stat as regular stamina. If you run a marathon, then try to cast spells, you are going to be very bad at it.

[Nexaduro]

Ross, I sorta agree with Retech. There's always been an impression that Ice and Geomancy are the construction magics. I mean, Ice can't really do anything very interesting the way things are.

 

Also, I imagine a Fire Mage heating ore, an Allomancer melding it into shape, and an Ice Mage cooling it would produce incredibly strong metals.

[The_Mather1]

Would killing enough of for example baerls improve ones knowledge of their weaknesses and strenghts and thus make killing them easier after some time?

That is asuming that a different method of combat is used each time as to negate any effect weapon/magic proficiency has.

[Icuownage]

Fire is always seen as a constructive and destructive element. Have you ever noticed most fire mages are in industiral scenes.

 

Yes ice is used for construction, but in ICE areas. Unless the mage makes the area icey.

[Retech]

Magical stamina is the same stat as regular stamina. If you run a marathon, then try to cast spells, you are going to be very bad at it.

 

I meant, how does a high level mage summon volcanoes or huge storms? Is it because they have more stamina, the spells get easier at a higher level, or they all consume the same amount of stamina? (In general. I'm not sure if you actually have a set rule on this or if you're just winging it)

 

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I'm not necessarily talking about people's perceptions, but about game balance.

 

Icu, the only way Ice would be remotely balanced is if it could freeze people "instantly" (like with an unblockable attack, rather than a projectile). At least that's the only thing I can think of. Even with blocking, it doesn't work. The ice mage could form a shield of ice to block something, but as Colin showed in the Dorf puzzle, fire can just blow the projectile up.

 

One idea I had was that fire magic would have a greater risk during failure, since their spells are stronger and more destructive. (Like in a routine casting, an ice mage might fail and freeze their hand while a fire mage might light their hair or clothing on fire. Bigger failures with bigger spells might be like getting frozen solid for an ice mage with a chance for someone to come along and save you, or general explosions and their effects for fire mages.

[Nexaduro]

Stupid system, if you ask me Retech.

 

I think "Ice Crystals" of some sort with the ability to prevent melting would balance the whole thing out.

[Seraphi]

It's just that permenant ice is on the outskirts of stupidity town...

 

Still, if it matters that much to you, I'll allow it on a small scale (For the record, I have actually mentioned a method for it, but you either ignored it or didn't notice...), but it is going to be extremely tiring, and if you try to make an ice castle in a single move, though, rocks will fall.

 

And yeah, higher level magic makes it easier to cast.

[Retech]

I did notice it (with the application of some metal I think it was on the ice), but I thought it was really cumbersome and the metal seemed pretty rare or expensive.

 

 

Permanent ice could just be difficult or something. Could I build an ice castle over several actions over several sessions? (Like first building a house-like structure and coming back occasionally to improve on it)

 

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Nex, that suggestion a few posts up about making swords is a good idea, if only we could actually meet each other. :P

[Seraphi]

That's the point... Ice would always melt unless you use the metal in it's creation.

 

I noticed that, instead of actually, y'know, *looking* for the metal in question, you decided to moan at me about ice being underpowered... Seems like an odd thing to me, given that you spent the last session doing nothing of any real relevence to anything except terrorising the people of Hallowdale.