Why can't F2P have...?

[Assume Nothing]

 

Uhmmm, I was demonstrating a point? Calling me a troll? Rofl. I posted a single comment, it wasn't troll, yet some idiots insisted on flaming me for it. Eugh.

 

 

 

My calling you arrogant is flaming?

 

 

 

Secondly, why insist on "demonstrating your point" here? If YOU were to stop and think a minute, by posting that F2P is arrogant and that we should "have the ability to stop complaining" and that our way of thinking is idiotic IN A THREAD that's based around what F2P wants, you're just asking to be flamed. Or called an idiot. Or start an argument. Hence; trolling.

 

 

 

Eh? Why don't you just get over it?

[Bloodkay]

 

Eh? Why don't you just get over it?

 

 

 

Why don't you? ;)

 

 

 

BACK ON TOPIC!

 

Why can't F2P have better capes? I mean there's the noob cape and then there are all those stat-less capes. Give us one slightly better? Make it a reward for something... like a new Security dungeon.

[wcingisbad]

 

Uhmmm, I was demonstrating a point? Calling me a troll? Rofl. I posted a single comment, it wasn't troll, yet some idiots insisted on flaming me for it. Eugh.

 

 

 

My calling you arrogant is flaming?

 

 

 

Secondly, why insist on "demonstrating your point" here? If YOU were to stop and think a minute, by posting that F2P is arrogant and that we should "have the ability to stop complaining" and that our way of thinking is idiotic IN A THREAD that's based around what F2P wants, you're just asking to be flamed. Or called an idiot. Or start an argument. Hence; trolling.

 

 

 

Eh? Why don't you just get over it?

 

Classic argument-lacking member response.

[Assume Nothing]

 

Uhmmm, I was demonstrating a point? Calling me a troll? Rofl. I posted a single comment, it wasn't troll, yet some idiots insisted on flaming me for it. Eugh.

 

 

 

My calling you arrogant is flaming?

 

 

 

Secondly, why insist on "demonstrating your point" here? If YOU were to stop and think a minute, by posting that F2P is arrogant and that we should "have the ability to stop complaining" and that our way of thinking is idiotic IN A THREAD that's based around what F2P wants, you're just asking to be flamed. Or called an idiot. Or start an argument. Hence; trolling.

 

 

 

Eh? Why don't you just get over it?

 

Classic argument-lacking member response.

 

 

 

I don't want a flame war, idiot. Seriously.

[Mico]

I don' t really see what more can we want.

 

 

 

We got more bank space;

 

we have much more to do;

 

we have the RSOF (not alot, maybe 5% of F2P)

 

we can actually use dragon (for 30 minutes only and at a HIGH price, but once the icon of membership)

 

 

 

For me, I' m good until I buy membership. And that' s in the distant future.

[Balazeal]

I don' t really see what more can we want.

 

 

 

We got more bank space;

 

we have much more to do;

 

we have the RSOF (not alot, maybe 5% of F2P)

 

we can actually use dragon (for 30 minutes only and at a HIGH price, but once the icon of membership)

 

 

 

For me, I' m good until I buy membership. And that' s in the distant future.

 

 

 

Agreed, however I still think that skillcapes should be F2P. Past that I think that F2P won't need anymore updates.

 

(However I'm sure that magic loving pvp players will care to argue differently)

[Bloodkay]

 

Agreed, however I still think that skillcapes should be F2P. Past that I think that F2P won't need anymore updates.

 

(However I'm sure that magic loving pvp players will care to argue differently)

 

 

 

+1 I see no reason F2P shouldn't get Skillcapes. But I'm good for updates right now. Though seeing how much we've gotten over the last while, I wouldn't be surprised if we got more sooner or later.

[Articultural]

 

Agreed, however I still think that skillcapes should be F2P. Past that I think that F2P won't need anymore updates.

 

(However I'm sure that magic loving pvp players will care to argue differently)

 

 

 

+1 I see no reason F2P shouldn't get Skillcapes. But I'm good for updates right now. Though seeing how much we've gotten over the last while, I wouldn't be surprised if we got more sooner or later.

 

 

 

Why should F2P get Skillcapes and not get Barrows armour or godswords? All 3 are high level P2P items which are main reasons for lots of people for getting P2P, so why should F2P get only one of them, and not all of them?

[Balazeal]

Why should F2P get Skillcapes and not get Barrows armour or godswords? All 3 are high level P2P items which are main reasons for lots of people for getting P2P, so why should F2P get only one of them, and not all of them?

 

 

 

Unlike Barrows armor and Godswords, Skillcapes are objects that directly display that the user has achieved Level 99 in . It's not really that we want high level equipment, but more so that we want to display our achievements.

[Bloodkay]

Why should F2P get Skillcapes and not get Barrows armour or godswords? All 3 are high level P2P items which are main reasons for lots of people for getting P2P, so why should F2P get only one of them, and not all of them?

 

 

 

Unlike Barrows armor and Godswords, Skillcapes are objects that directly display that the user has achieved Level 99 in . It's not really that we want high level equipment, but more so that we want to display our achievements.

 

 

 

Said it like a pro. In the official debate over here, we were talking about how F2P skillcapes would be lower in stats, but still be higher than our normal ones.

[Articultural]

Why should F2P get Skillcapes and not get Barrows armour or godswords? All 3 are high level P2P items which are main reasons for lots of people for getting P2P, so why should F2P get only one of them, and not all of them?

 

 

 

Unlike Barrows armor and Godswords, Skillcapes are objects that directly display that the user has achieved Level 99 in . It's not really that we want high level equipment, but more so that we want to display our achievements.

 

 

 

Barrows armour shows that you have 70+ Defence (high by Jagex's standards) are enough money/luck to obtain relatively rare armour, compared to other things like rune. Godswords are the same showing that you have 75+ Attack and either have got a hilt somehow or made enough money to afford one. Both items are bad for training as there are better alternatives in almost every situation, and yet they are still worn by many as show off items, which also have decent stats in comparision to the rest of the armours in RuneScape.

 

 

 

Skillcapes are exactly like this, they show you have achieved something and are high level. They give good bonuses and yet in almost every situation you could use another cape instead (fire, accumalator, god cape) for better bonuses in whatever skill you may be training. They are basically a show off item, just like the four godswords and six Barrows armour sets are.

 

 

 

Suggesting that F2P get skillcapes, which are high level P2P content, is just as bad as suggesting that F2P get access to Barrows or God Wars, which are both high level P2P content. If you want to get a skillcape, become a member. Jagex made them P2P only for a reason, and changing their mind now would be a terrible decision for both the RuneScape community, and Jagex themselves. Backtracking on what you've opposed the last few years and starting to support it is almost as ridiculous as the idea that was suggested pre-december 2007 that Jagex start selling RuneScape gold themselves, to counter RWT.

[Balazeal]

Why should F2P get Skillcapes and not get Barrows armour or godswords? All 3 are high level P2P items which are main reasons for lots of people for getting P2P, so why should F2P get only one of them, and not all of them?

 

 

 

Unlike Barrows armor and Godswords, Skillcapes are objects that directly display that the user has achieved Level 99 in . It's not really that we want high level equipment, but more so that we want to display our achievements.

 

 

 

Barrows armour shows that you have 70+ Defence (high by Jagex's standards) are enough money/luck to obtain relatively rare armour, compared to other things like rune. Godswords are the same showing that you have 75+ Attack and either have got a hilt somehow or made enough money to afford one. Both items are bad for training as there are better alternatives in almost every situation, and yet they are still worn by many as show off items, which also have decent stats in comparision to the rest of the armours in RuneScape.

 

 

 

Skillcapes are exactly like this, they show you have achieved something and are high level. They give good bonuses and yet in almost every situation you could use another cape instead (fire, accumalator, god cape) for better bonuses in whatever skill you may be training. They are basically a show off item, just like the four godswords and six Barrows armour sets are.

 

 

 

Suggesting that F2P get skillcapes, which are high level P2P content, is just as bad as suggesting that F2P get access to Barrows or God Wars, which are both high level P2P content. If you want to get a skillcape, become a member. Jagex made them P2P only for a reason, and changing their mind now would be a terrible decision for both the RuneScape community, and Jagex themselves. Backtracking on what you've opposed the last few years and starting to support it is almost as ridiculous as the idea that was suggested pre-december 2007 that Jagex start selling RuneScape gold themselves, to counter RWT.

 

 

 

I see your point, however our discussion is getting a bit too long, as this thread is for "Why can't F2P have?" not debating what F2P should and should not have. Feel free to continue the debate in the "Should F2P have Skillcapes?" thread.

[Skully]

Imo all F2P should get is deletion.

[Assume Nothing]

Imo all F2P should get is deletion.

 

Yup, totally agree. Members or GTFO, Your choice.

[Bloodkay]

And why in gods name would you guys want that? Our choice is to be F2P. So why do we need to be deleted or be gone?

 

God, you guys are rude.

[unkn0wnwarrior]

Imo all F2P should get is deletion.

 

Yup, totally agree. Members or GTFO, Your choice.

 

Without F2P, Runescape's popularity would go down the drain and members would have nobody left to show off all of their "cool" gear to. On top of that, if you don't like F2P, ignore it altogether, much like I ignore most members in free worlds.

[Balazeal]

Imo all F2P should get is deletion.

 

 

 

I love the amount of thought put into this post. I simply love it.

[Kiriyama]

And why in gods name would you guys want that? Our choice is to be F2P. So why do we need to be deleted or be gone?

 

God, you guys are rude.

 

 

 

Oh you know, because becoming a member instantly makes you more superior, so you should have to show your devotion to a game that was free originally by paying.

 

 

 

The fact you get so much in a free game is what attracts people.

 

 

 

No F2P, then nobody would freaking bother.

[wcingisbad]

The proof that a dime can corrupt one's personality.

[Articultural]

Why should F2P get Skillcapes and not get Barrows armour or godswords? All 3 are high level P2P items which are main reasons for lots of people for getting P2P, so why should F2P get only one of them, and not all of them?

 

 

 

Unlike Barrows armor and Godswords, Skillcapes are objects that directly display that the user has achieved Level 99 in . It's not really that we want high level equipment, but more so that we want to display our achievements.

 

 

 

Barrows armour shows that you have 70+ Defence (high by Jagex's standards) are enough money/luck to obtain relatively rare armour, compared to other things like rune. Godswords are the same showing that you have 75+ Attack and either have got a hilt somehow or made enough money to afford one. Both items are bad for training as there are better alternatives in almost every situation, and yet they are still worn by many as show off items, which also have decent stats in comparision to the rest of the armours in RuneScape.

 

 

 

Skillcapes are exactly like this, they show you have achieved something and are high level. They give good bonuses and yet in almost every situation you could use another cape instead (fire, accumalator, god cape) for better bonuses in whatever skill you may be training. They are basically a show off item, just like the four godswords and six Barrows armour sets are.

 

 

 

Suggesting that F2P get skillcapes, which are high level P2P content, is just as bad as suggesting that F2P get access to Barrows or God Wars, which are both high level P2P content. If you want to get a skillcape, become a member. Jagex made them P2P only for a reason, and changing their mind now would be a terrible decision for both the RuneScape community, and Jagex themselves. Backtracking on what you've opposed the last few years and starting to support it is almost as ridiculous as the idea that was suggested pre-december 2007 that Jagex start selling RuneScape gold themselves, to counter RWT.

 

 

 

I see your point, however our discussion is getting a bit too long, as this thread is for "Why can't F2P have?" not debating what F2P should and should not have. Feel free to continue the debate in the "Should F2P have Skillcapes?" thread.

 

 

 

That's exactly what I'm trying to say, "Should F2P have Skillcapes?" is just as bad as saying "Should F2P have any other high level P2P content?" Skillcapes are P2P for exactly the same reason that other high level P2P content such as Barrows/godswords are. If Jagex were to give F2P Skillcapes, why wouldn't they give F2P Barrows or godswords or any other high level P2P only content?

[wcingisbad]

Jagex ultimately decides what will be updated and what not. So, they can make skillcapes F2P, but not other high level P2P content. In case that happened, the bonuses on capes of achievement could be nerfed.

 

 

 

Paying 5 bucks for a pixeled cape, whose use is to merely earn "recognition" and "respect" from other players, is a horrible investment, in my opinion. Most pure F2pers would get P2P in order to enjoy the full game at full throttle. That's why making skillcapes F2P is a more reasonable suggestion than making all members' skills, weapons, armour, minigames, boss monsters and areas F2P.

[Kiriyama]

There is a world of difference between Godswords/Barrows armour and a Cape which shows you have 99 in a skill.

 

 

 

Really, you've put up a moronic arguement, by comparing items that have a viable use to items which are just for show. It has the same defensive stats as an Obsidian Cape, which is far less time consuming to obtain, and an inferior prayer bonus than a God Cloak, which again, takes less time to obtain.

 

 

 

I think making Skillcapes P2P in the first place made many a RuneScaper scratch their head and wonder why. It is hardly more of an improvement on items that already exsisted, and items that took less time an money to obtain.

 

 

 

Oh, and Barrows armour is generally the best for training, because of how cheap it is, and how useful it is.

 

 

 

Skillcapes are a reward for getting 99 in a skill, and serve little purpose other than to tell people you have that 99.

[Harakiri]

I personally think F2P is lucky they have what they have...I don't think they deserve anything else unless they are willing to pay for it. IMO, Jagex spoils the F2P people with the amount of content they get.

[PuppyKing]

I think it would be funny to put an thing in f2p that gives 1 agility exp every time you use it.

 

(and on top of that, dont change that agility levels dont matter in f2p :lol: )

[unkn0wnwarrior]

I personally think F2P is lucky they have what they have...I don't think they deserve anything else unless they are willing to pay for it. IMO, Jagex spoils the F2P people with the amount of content they get.

 

Lucky we have what we have? No. Jagex knows the importance of F2P to the survival of the game, and thus we get OCCASIONAL updates.

 

 

 

Are we spoiled? That depends on your point of view. From where you sit, we are spoiled because we get updates now and then. From our view, and many P2P's views, we get what we need, with an occasional bonus.

 

 

 

Of course, there are those who think we should get EVERYTHING, but they should never be taken seriously.