Your take on DIY?

[amitoz]

DIY'ing is the equivilent of working $8/hr your whole life : AKA playing RS longer due to a sentimental goal.

 

Being efficient is the equivilent of working $45 an hour, with many vacations when you choose : AKA quitting rs time to time.

i lol'd a bit. you obviously think of rs as work and not a game

Mo money, mo betta.

alright but explain me this young grasshopper

 

ive been diy';er since i made my account, ~5years ago

 

i average 30k+ xp an hour (just like you)

have 1bil + bank

 

 

now who's better off? me, with pretty much everyhting i could ever need banked, or someone whos busting their ass off trying to get enough cash for turmoil/overloads/claws, etc??? :)

 

of course ill never get to experience having a 30bil + cash pile or multiple rare items, but thats just for bragging rights anyways, and i could care less about rares.

 

on top of all that , i get the ultimate goal of soloing a divine + ely sigil :)

 

 

@guy wcing mage logs for p ess, just slay, you get 2k-4k p ess per strykeworm task, and mass teak logs from jungle strykes

 

get wc rocks via teak weekly x 30 weeks, thatll be more than enough to last you your cash pile and then some, especially if you're using MTK + summon shards, you're gonna definitly go through cash more than you get it.

 

but you should be more worried about cash, than logs, for construction

Since when have I been struggling for turmoil? I got 99 prayer 3.5 years ago.

 

I haven't been member since, and 99 herb will quickly be "achieved" in 4-5 days.

 

My bank is worth more than yours.

 

I have quit for 2.5 years, thus "playing" less than you.

 

I prefer efficiency over aesthetics, and you say phats and rares are for aesthetics, which juxtaposes your counter-argument...

 

 

What are you trying to say?

whats your xp per hour average out to be?

 

80k, counting the times when I'm online.

 

More than you can say? I sense stinginess.

[itam69]

DIY'ing is the equivilent of working $8/hr your whole life : AKA playing RS longer due to a sentimental goal.

 

Being efficient is the equivilent of working $45 an hour, with many vacations when you choose : AKA quitting rs time to time.

i lol'd a bit. you obviously think of rs as work and not a game

Mo money, mo betta.

alright but explain me this young grasshopper

 

ive been diy';er since i made my account, ~5years ago

 

i average 30k+ xp an hour (just like you)

have 1bil + bank

 

 

now who's better off? me, with pretty much everyhting i could ever need banked, or someone whos busting their ass off trying to get enough cash for turmoil/overloads/claws, etc??? :)

 

of course ill never get to experience having a 30bil + cash pile or multiple rare items, but thats just for bragging rights anyways, and i could care less about rares.

 

on top of all that , i get the ultimate goal of soloing a divine + ely sigil :)

 

 

@guy wcing mage logs for p ess, just slay, you get 2k-4k p ess per strykeworm task, and mass teak logs from jungle strykes

 

get wc rocks via teak weekly x 30 weeks, thatll be more than enough to last you your cash pile and then some, especially if you're using MTK + summon shards, you're gonna definitly go through cash more than you get it.

 

but you should be more worried about cash, than logs, for construction

Since when have I been struggling for turmoil? I got 99 prayer 3.5 years ago.

 

I haven't been member since, and 99 herb will quickly be "achieved" in 4-5 days.

 

My bank is worth more than yours.

 

I have quit for 2.5 years, thus "playing" less than you.

 

I prefer efficiency over aesthetics, and you say phats and rares are for aesthetics, which juxtaposes your counter-argument...

 

 

What are you trying to say?

whats your xp per hour average out to be?

 

80k, counting the times when I'm online.

 

More than you can say? I sense stinginess.

 

 

i know you dont average 80k xp an hour ;) im done with this useless debate with you, as youre full of bs

[Aiel]

DIY'ing is the equivilent of working $8/hr your whole life : AKA playing RS longer due to a sentimental goal.

 

Being efficient is the equivilent of working $45 an hour, with many vacations when you choose : AKA quitting rs time to time.

i lol'd a bit. you obviously think of rs as work and not a game

Mo money, mo betta.

alright but explain me this young grasshopper

 

ive been diy';er since i made my account, ~5years ago

 

i average 30k+ xp an hour (just like you)

have 1bil + bank

 

 

now who's better off? me, with pretty much everyhting i could ever need banked, or someone whos busting their ass off trying to get enough cash for turmoil/overloads/claws, etc??? :)

 

of course ill never get to experience having a 30bil + cash pile or multiple rare items, but thats just for bragging rights anyways, and i could care less about rares.

 

on top of all that , i get the ultimate goal of soloing a divine + ely sigil :)

 

 

@guy wcing mage logs for p ess, just slay, you get 2k-4k p ess per strykeworm task, and mass teak logs from jungle strykes

 

get wc rocks via teak weekly x 30 weeks, thatll be more than enough to last you your cash pile and then some, especially if you're using MTK + summon shards, you're gonna definitly go through cash more than you get it.

 

but you should be more worried about cash, than logs, for construction

Since when have I been struggling for turmoil? I got 99 prayer 3.5 years ago.

 

I haven't been member since, and 99 herb will quickly be "achieved" in 4-5 days.

 

My bank is worth more than yours.

 

I have quit for 2.5 years, thus "playing" less than you.

 

I prefer efficiency over aesthetics, and you say phats and rares are for aesthetics, which juxtaposes your counter-argument...

 

 

What are you trying to say?

whats your xp per hour average out to be?

 

80k, counting the times when I'm online.

 

More than you can say? I sense stinginess.

you have 1 buyable 99 and 99 rc. I'm calling [cabbage] on that right now.

[Neltak]

DIY made sense before GE, now its a waste of time if you ask me.

 

And towards itam69: I don't DIY, I only have ~200M bank, but I'm averaging 47k exp/h. And none of my training methods from here on out will be less than 45k exp/h (what I get RC'ing atm) so that number can only go up. The only way my exp/h will go down would be by making money/bossing, and I'll have a 1b+ bank long before it would get down to 30k+ exp/h

[itam69]

not many people are above 40k xp an hour, so props to you for being so efficient the second you log on :) either way i dont play to be efficient ,was just trying to prove a point, that diy'er isnt as bad as most make it sound out to be. i know for a fact buddy on the 4th page isnt 80k xp an hour though^^

 

ofc the way i play isnt the most efficient, i dont even use cannon, but i enjoy what i do and you enjoy what you do :)

 

big problem with my xp/hour this past year or two has been my full bank though-_- not the way i skill, although i do clues the second i get em ( average 2-3 per task) and dont cannon, so my slayer xp/h probobly averages out to like 15k

[meili]

Yes, I totally DIY!

 

Inefficiency or slow exp does not scare/upset me in any way, shape or form. Lol, I got 99s in RS Classic.

 

I'm glad to see there are also many other people who like to do their own thing. I personally hate it when random players I don't even know are so bossy and tell me I should be doing something more efficient. Yet when I actually want advice, nobody knows what to do...

[bored321]

I usually don't, however sometimes if I'm bored I will and when you do it does make an achievement feel better than when you just buy it.

 

But I'm sure like many others, over the last week I have been farming all the other herbs I need for BXPW.

[itam69]

DIY made sense before GE, now its a waste of time if you ask me.

 

And towards itam69: I don't DIY, I only have ~200M bank, but I'm averaging 47k exp/h. And none of my training methods from here on out will be less than 45k exp/h (what I get RC'ing atm) so that number can only go up. The only way my exp/h will go down would be by making money/bossing, and I'll have a 1b+ bank long before it would get down to 30k+ exp/h

ahah i just checked my alog and i average 44k xp/h :) was almost certain it was around 30k xp/h guess all that slaying paid off :]

guess diy'ing isnt ass inefficient as most people think^^

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[The Dark Lord]

Might be fun, but it's still highly ineficient.

 

We are robot. Must get most Experience Points per hour. If I make 100,000 Experience Points per hour for Fifteen hours in one day, then I can get Level 99 in 20.365 days.

 

Runescape: Serious sh*t.

[itam69]

Might be fun, but it's still highly ineficient.

 

We are robot. Must get most Experience Points per hour. If I make 100,000 Experience Points per hour for Fifteen hours in one day, then I can get Level 99 in 20.365 days.

 

Runescape: Serious sh*t.

no, it just brings out the nerd in you :]

[Makilio]

I think it's just a different/interesting way to play the game. I've always wanted to try it once I read itam's blog on here back when he started it, but only got around to making an account for it yesterday due to real life being a hassle until now.

 

It's pretty fun so far (and a bit difficult, especially combat/slayer-wise), and it may be what brings me back to playing RS somewhat regularly.

[meili]

Well just remember if you DIY, don't drive yourself nuts. ;) It can get quite crazy if you literally do every single thing by yourself.

[itam69]

meili or it can be fun :]

 

only tedious thing really, is gathering quest items :P but im sure its like that for everyone not just diy'ers

[Noobzy]

Not sure if this part of the DIY discussion has been touched upon in the precvious pages (I saw something similar on page 1...) but I have been walking around with this idea in my head for some time:

 

What if jagex allowed for special, dedicated DIY accounts? As in: you can start up an actual DIY account, which can't trade with players or via GE at all (this is the main point). The player's name would have a different colour to distinguish it from normal accounts.

 

Now imagine seeing a dedicated ('official', if jagex made it that way) DIY account, wearing GWD items, or even third age. That would be impressive.

 

The only problem I see is how to solve multi boss hunting. Because if you mass corp and you get sigil, it is hardly DIY.

 

Any thoughts on this?

 

 

PS: Personally I would make a DIY account in an instant.

PPS: I also think a lot of people would be interested in such an account.

 

Don't want to promote my post, but I have seen no reactions or suggestions to my suggestion... hence I repeat my question: would you be interested in such type of account?

[Grimy_Bunyip]

I'm going to SC my ass off for Fletching and Construction. It seems unavoidable that I will reach 99 woodcutting without even trying as it will be the source of Firemaking, Construction, and Fletching.

 

The problem is being able to afford having the butler cut them for me. My current plan is to woodcut Mahogany and use the Plank-make spell. That's still 1k per log though, and I'm not sure where I'm going to get that kind of money as DIY.

 

Thankfully while woodcutting all that mahogany I should have enough Special Logs to cut about a third of it for free.

what's wrong with fletching broad arrows bought from the slayer master?

hmm the headless arrows i guess.

Hehe ah well.

In this case perhaps maples with seers headband is better suited for you lol.

with adze, yak, and wcing juju's of course

 

PS: may i suggest temple trekking as a source of bowstrings? :P

[rsp]

What if jagex allowed for special, dedicated DIY accounts? As in: you can start up an actual DIY account, which can't trade with players or via GE at all (this is the main point). The player's name would have a different colour to distinguish it from normal accounts.

 

Don't want to promote my post, but I have seen no reactions or suggestions to my suggestion... hence I repeat my question: would you be interested in such type of account?

 

No thank you. I do everything myself already, and I have no desire to restart the game after 10 years :-)

[Noobzy]

What if jagex allowed for special, dedicated DIY accounts? As in: you can start up an actual DIY account, which can't trade with players or via GE at all (this is the main point). The player's name would have a different colour to distinguish it from normal accounts.

No thank you. I do everything myself already, and I have no desire to restart the game after 10 years :-)

 

Fair enough, but I think there are enough players who would. And those types of accounts open up whole new options for 'epic accounts' (think category ellebreyals). Maybe not fun to make for you, but fun to watch?

[Durant]

Sounds fun, but it just seems like it wouldn't suit me. I like being able to go, "ooh, I need 1K Super Strengths/Attacks for my slayer needs", and being able to purchase them swiftly at the GE. There is no way I'm going to farm 1K (whatever herb) and then make 1K potions.

 

Sure, it might work for F2P because all of the skills are basic, but in P2P, in order to do most members things (whether it be leveling efficiently, questing, or boss hunting) you will need to purchase most items unless you want to wait a day or more to do one quest.

 

Yes, it sounds fun, but do I want to spend 2 days just so I can train some Strength? No.

 

EDIT: May be fun for a level 3 skiller though. Mine the Ores, smelt 'em. Could be fun. Combat just adds too much of a hassle to kill efficiently.

[LitterBug]

Not sure if this part of the DIY discussion has been touched upon in the precvious pages (I saw something similar on page 1...) but I have been walking around with this idea in my head for some time:

 

What if jagex allowed for special, dedicated DIY accounts? As in: you can start up an actual DIY account, which can't trade with players or via GE at all (this is the main point). The player's name would have a different colour to distinguish it from normal accounts.

 

Now imagine seeing a dedicated ('official', if jagex made it that way) DIY account, wearing GWD items, or even third age. That would be impressive.

 

The only problem I see is how to solve multi boss hunting. Because if you mass corp and you get sigil, it is hardly DIY.

 

Any thoughts on this?

 

 

PS: Personally I would make a DIY account in an instant.

PPS: I also think a lot of people would be interested in such an account.

 

Don't want to promote my post, but I have seen no reactions or suggestions to my suggestion... hence I repeat my question: would you be interested in such type of account?

 

I think that would be pretty cool :)

Although for those who have already spent so much time on their DIY accounts - I'm betting a lot of them would be pretty upset at that. Unless Jagex has some way to manage every single trade/ge/etc that ever happened.

 

However, there are a lot of people who classify DIY as different things.

Some require no interactions with shops/npcs while others feel it is fine to do so.

^How exactly would that work out?

 

Additionally, are DIY's allowed to partner with people for quests (like Shield of Arrav/Heroes)?

[itam69]

yea, i pretty much make up my own rules, as does everyone else. straight up no interaction with players unless i have to for a quest pretty much =[

 

lots of people believe diy'ers should ls/ffa, i prefer soloing

 

as for shops/npcs, theyre pretty much a must, unless youre going to limit yourself to no summoning, construction , etc :(

 

and without the arrav/heroes/legends quests, youre limiting yourself to tossing clues/less questss which isnt why i started playing this game either :P

 

i think of ba as interacting with others so ill never use penance horn, or stealing creations items, but ill probobly play castlewars one day, or the minigames like PP that are required to play for a quest

[Sir_Squab]

yea, i pretty much make up my own rules, as does everyone else. straight up no interaction with players unless i have to for a quest pretty much =[

 

lots of people believe diy'ers should ls/ffa, i prefer soloing

 

as for shops/npcs, theyre pretty much a must, unless youre going to limit yourself to no summoning, construction , etc :(

 

and without the arrav/heroes/legends quests, youre limiting yourself to tossing clues/less questss which isnt why i started playing this game either :P

 

i think of ba as interacting with others so ill never use penance horn, or stealing creations items, but ill probobly play castlewars one day, or the minigames like PP that are required to play for a quest

 

Personally, I think minigames are fine. Some rewards from minigames you can't get without. Trading with shops is a must, you can't really train summoning or get a lot of house upgrades without.

 

Real iffy thing is boss monsters. If you get 138 DIY, you could solo every boss except Nex/Corp. I think it's a tad unfair to have a DIYer not be able to get those items but I can't think of a good solution.

 

Actually, Corp is possible now isn't it o.O

 

I'd say DIY is just no trade/GE. I guess FFA/LS bossing unsolo-able bosses. Corp and Nex (although Corp is do-able, I think it still qualifies.)

 

What about DG? Are we doing solo meds to 120?

[itam69]

i think solo smalls are better than meds ;p considering i leave the floor every other merc leader i get

 

but if you're gonna ls/ffa, why not duo or do larges in dg? ;o

 

 

and yea, soloing a divine is my long term goal :)

[Zierro]

Inefficiency has its perks for those who enjoy an extra challenge or just want to mix things up. In fact, it's quite common across other games. Final Fantasy: beat the game at the lowest possible level you can. Zelda: beat the game with only three hearts. The beauty behind video games is that they have such a great potential to be recreational that there is no "right way" to play them. Hell, you can even play Pacman by trying to survive as long as you can while eating as few dots as you can. If it's fun for you, it's fun for you.

[amitoz]

DIY is too inefficient for my liking.

[itam69]

Inefficiency has its perks for those who enjoy an extra challenge or just want to mix things up. In fact, it's quite common across other games. Final Fantasy: beat the game at the lowest possible level you can. Zelda: beat the game with only three hearts. The beauty behind video games is that they have such a great potential to be recreational that there is no "right way" to play them. Hell, you can even play Pacman by trying to survive as long as you can while eating as few dots as you can. If it's fun for you, it's fun for you.

 

damn wish i coulda said it that goood:)\\

 

and i diy 44k xp/h hows that inefficient [oops]