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While the vast majority of clerics revere a specific deity, a small number dedicate themselves to a divine concept worthy of devotionsuch as battle, death, justice, or knowledgefree of a deific abstraction.

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Ok, isn't the Draconic Cause evil? You're neutral yet you worship evil?

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There's a lawful good god of dragons and a chaotic evil god of dragons. Draconic is in the middle, true neutral.

 

My character is morally conflicted about situations, so one minute, she might be excited to kill something, and the next minute, when she's standing over the person's dying body, she would be hesitant to kill. That wouldn't have been evident in our duel, when we were both trying to kill each other, so instead of packing good spells like cures and sanctuary, I just packed a buncha inflict moderate wounds and death knells, among other things. My regular spell list is roughly split half/half (maybe a bit more inflict, because I can spontaneously convert them into cures).

 

Also, playing an evil character wrecks the party (as Ross pointed out), and playing good characters kinda became boring for me after a while, so a morally conflicted character is what I chose.

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Still can't find this draconic cause anyway :/

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I made up the cause, because it fit my backstory. If I was to worship a god of serpents or dragons, then I'd have to choose a lawful good or chaotic evil, both of which are not very interesting to me this time around.

 

So, I chose a cause that would make sense with the fact that I am playing a kobold (many of them want to be respected as dragons and have dragon-like powers). It's rather simple. :thumbup:

 

 

The scalykind domain is rather underpowered, but very nice for fluff. (Kobold with dragonbreath, cool!) A flavorful cause fits much better with the fluff and backstory than any of the pre-existing gods, which I looked at.

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But the point of a cleric is to worship something that is a little biased...

 

Domains have to be within your deities approval and alignment, I know you can pick some with the GM's apporval but the restriction on alignment still applies.

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Icu, the point is, I chose a mechanically inferior, fluff superior set of domains because they fit the "wants to be a dragon" backstory.

 

I am not changing my backstory, so if the GM says I have to change my domains, I'll just have to choose different domains. Currently, EVERYTHING is stronger than the dragon subdomain, but I took it anyways, because it's fun flavor and fits perfectly with my backstory.

 

It says clearly in the rules that clerics do not need deities. If I must take a deity, then I will just choose one. There is no issue with that. But I don't think that Grim would honestly make me change my domains like that. If it fits the backstory and doesn't contradict the rules, then why should I be forced to change them? Ultimately, it's up to Grim, but there is no bending of the rules or RAW.

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Don't see how 'animal' fits in with dragon as I don't think they seem themselves as such.

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Feather subdomain = Flight

 

The other choice would be air domain, I suppose. Oh wait, that's air elemental stuff (like lightning and storms).

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Wait so, what are your domains?

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Animal domain (Feather Subdomain)

Scalykind (Dragon subdomain)

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Ta-da! Character sheet!

 

Dyeedi Stormrunner

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Female Changeling Ranger 4

Chaotic Good

Age: 16

Black hair, Green eyes

Height/Weight 5'9" 110lbs.

Homeland: The River Kingdom

Deity: Trithereon

Campaign: Kingmaker

Representing Nexaduro

 

Hit Points: 32

Strength 19 (+4)

Dexterity 18 (+4)

Constitution 6 (-2)

Intelligence 12 (+1)

Wisdom 12 (+1)

Charisma 10 (+0)

 

Initiative +4 = 4 [Dex]

 

Skills:

Climb +8

Handle Animal +7

Heal +5

Intimidate +6

Dungeoneering +6

Geography +6

Nature +6

Perception +8

Ride +7

Spellcraft +5

Stealth +10

Survival +8

Swim +8

 

Equipment:

3 Gold Pieces

Leaf Armour 20 lbs.

Greatspear 12 lbs.

Masterwork Armour Spikes 10 lbs.

Waterskin 4 lbs.

Common Backpack 2 lbs.

Everburning Torch 1 lbs.

Compass 1/2 lbs.

Amulet of Mighty Fists 0 lbs.

Wooden Holy Symbol 0 lbs.

Wandermeal x 70 0 lbs.

Flint and Steel 0 lbs.

Silent Whistle 0 lbs.

 

Base Speed 30

 

AC [16] Touch AC [13] Flat-Footed [13]

 

Base Attack Bonus +4

Basic Melee Attack +8

Basic Ranged Attack +8

 

Fortitude Save +3

Reflex Save +8

Will Save +2

 

CMB +8 = 4 [bAB] +4 [str] +0

CMD +22 = 4 [bAB] +4 [str] +4 [Dex] +0 + 10

 

Feats

Endurance

Improved Natural Attack

Rending Claws

Two-Weapon Fighting

 

Traits

Anatomist

Devotee of the Green

 

Carrying Capacity

Light Load: 100lbs.

Medium Load: 200lbs.

Heavy Load: 300lbs.

Lift Over Head: 300lbs.

Lift Off Ground: 600lbs.

Push or Drag: 1,500lbs. Languages

Common

 

Ranger Spells Per Day

Lead Blades (1)

 

Special Abilities:

-Changeling

Hag Trait: Hulking Changeling

Natural Armour

Claws

 

-Ranger

Combat Style: Natural Weapon

Favoured Enemy: Human

Hunter's Bond: Wolf

Shifter's Blessing: Form of the Dragon

Endurance

Track

Wild Empathy[/hide]

 

Wolf Animal Companion

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Tricks: Attack, Guard

27 HP

Size: Medium

Speed: 50 ft.

AC: +4 Natural Armour

Attack: Bite (1d6 plus trip) +2

Fort: +3 Reflex: +3 Will: +0

Skills:

Perception: +5

Stealth: +7

Ability Scores

Str 13

Dex 15

Con 15

Int 2

Wis 12

Cha 6

Feats:

Toughness

Special Qualities: Low-light vision, Scent

Equipment:

Padded Armour[/hide]

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10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc
10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes?

 

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Ah, you have broken a rule there though

 

Two,

 

One you've picked four domains (A sub domain counts)

 

If a cleric selects a subdomain, she cannot select its Associated Domain as her other domain choice

 

Although the feather domain still apparently allows an animal companion, but it doesn't make RP sense if you pick an ape.

 

I guess this is my final argument

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Two tips:

 

1) I think you rolled up your wolf as a level 4 animal companion, but rangers treat theirs as ranger level - 3. You would need the boon companion feat to get a level 4 animal companion.

 

2) Your companion doesn't need light armor proficiency. If you can give it armor with an armor check penalty of zero, then it doesn't matter whether it has proficiency or not. Best way would probaly to take some sort of masterwork armor, which isn't too much more expensive.

 

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Subdomains replace abilities in the regular domain. So the animal domain (feather subdomain) counts as one domain. So it is the animal domain (feather variant), and then the scalykind (dragon varient). If I need to choose a god though, I'll go with Erastil and become lawful neutral.

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Meh, I give up checking the rules.

 

And I don't think that works like how you said but ok.

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I have literally 3 GP left. <_<

 

I didn't see that. Erm... could I give up the Ranger Endurance Feat bonus for Boon Companion? Endurance doesn't really, fit, my character is super-frail.

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If you don't particularly care that it is leaf armor, you can get masterwork studded leather armor. It is exactly the same (infact leaf armor is just masterwork studden leather, but made out of magical leaves), but masterwork studded leather is some 300 gp cheaper. So you could get one for you and one for your pet. :thumbup:

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I'll be making a human character for this once I get the chance (and understand the system).

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Nah, Retech, I like Dyeedi the way she is. The thought of leaf spikes is too cool to pass up. Besides, she wears no other clothing, and leaves are probs more comfortable than metal and leather armour.

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10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes?

 

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So, sound off:

We have an Oread Monk of the Sacred mountain,

Kobold Cleric with a giant ape companion

Changeling Shapeshifter-Ranger with a Riding-Wolf-to-be and extremely dangerous claws.

And who else?

(Just so we know who's who.)

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Changeling Shapeshifter-Ranger with a Riding-Wolf-to-be and extremely dangerous claws.

10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need
10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc
10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes?

 

Remember, Remember, the 4th of November

RIP Dawngate ;-;

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Alternatively, you could ask someone else if you could borrow 150 gp.

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Pft. I have like.. Oi, Techy,how much did all those items cost me? Just a little curious there.

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6000 gp. If you want to swap something out, I recommend taking out the belt of giant's strength. It costs 4,000 and gives +2 to strength, so you'd have to make the changes to CMD, attack, str, etc.

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